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Here's a pic of the 4th gen belt and 82 sill plate installed. Worked out well for me. The 4th gen belt retracts so easily compaired to my old ones. Had to pull lthe seat out to get everything in, now time for a little cleaning/vacuming and it will be done.
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so if i had the whole assembly from a 4th gen it will bolt up in my 86 t/a?
has anyone done this
I've put in the 4th gen brake handle. It bolts right in. Although I'm using 4th gen e-brake cables from the handle to the rear disk brakes. The cables are the tricky part, you have to make your own e-brake braket(for underneath car) or get one cut out from a 4th gen.
well i just put in all new e-brake cables but they arent for 4th gen, they are just replacements for my 86. i have the 4th gen e-brake handle, and whole assembly unit i got from a 2001 camaro. so this will all bolt right in, just wondering if the cable will hook up to the 4th gen assembly unit with ease, im sure i can think of something if not.
I have looked thru here many times and havent seen anything and maybe i missed it but what are the mods needed to install the 4th gen dash.. not electrically but physically. and does anybody have any pics of 4th gen door panels on their car?
Very interesting thread. I was just looking to put in 4th gen seats but now that I know you can basically get the dash and console to fit my 3rd gen I'm going to definately do that now.
My question is to the people who've successfully done the 4th gen dash/console swap; what year donor car did you use and what was the biggest headache involved in doing the swap? I'd like to know what the BEST year(s) is(are) to put in my '90 RS Automatic with the least amount of headaches.
I have looked thru here many times and havent seen anything and maybe i missed it but what are the mods needed to install the 4th gen dash.. not electrically but physically. and does anybody have any pics of 4th gen door panels on their car?
The dash pretty much bolts right in, just need to drill a few holes in the upper firewall area(right under the windshield) to match the holes in the 4th gen dash since they were spaced a few inches different.
Then you just have to modify the two brackets on the edges of the dash (next to the kickpanels) to match the studs on the body.
The dash pretty much bolts right in, just need to drill a few holes in the upper firewall area(right under the windshield) to match the holes in the 4th gen dash since they were spaced a few inches different.
Then you just have to modify the two brackets on the edges of the dash (next to the kickpanels) to match the studs on the body.
That's it? I would have thought some cutting would be needed with that gigantic dash.
Well....it would physically sit in the car, but nothing would fit the way you want it to... Floor pans are different enough along with other things that it wont fit.
alloy!!!!!!! That is the best piece of info Ive seen yet!!!! I never knew the 82's were like that. I never did take the retractor covers apart to try to make them work, but I like this idea 1000 times better. Wow...good stuff!!
someone already said that the 4th gen kick panel works so you don't have to get one out of an 82
i think some of you guys should just buy a whole 4th gen you'll spend less if you get a v6 at least if you got one from mass sad a 96 bird for 900 once pul the interior and whatever else then junk or part it
4th gen seats are a direct bolt in. If you get power seats from the newer car, then just wire them up like you would any other power accessory...you may even have the stock power seat wiring under your carpet.
I installed 4th gen power seats in my Camaro. On thing that took a little while to figure out was that the seat tracks adjust independently. The tracks were out of alignment and adjusting them was easy one I figured out why.
For the rear seats, watch out for the center bolt. The nut is only tack welded and it is easy to break off if you cross thread the bolt. It is a real PITA to get the bolt back on once the tack weld breaks. Just be careful when tightening it.
For wiring the power seats, I just hooked the ground up to the bolt and the positive up to the stereo power lead. It is real easy to thread the wire under the console to the stereo lead, and you know the wire is fused.
i have an 86 camaro iroc and ne ways the dash pad or w/e is all cracked and **** so i have a 91 firebird formula thats recked but the dash pad is the same except for a few things i guess....what can i do to make the dash from the firebird work in th camaro??
i have an 86 camaro iroc and ne ways the dash pad or w/e is all cracked and **** so i have a 91 firebird formula thats recked but the dash pad is the same except for a few things i guess....what can i do to make the dash from the firebird work in th camaro??
i have an 86 camaro iroc and ne ways the dash pad or w/e is all cracked and **** so i have a 91 firebird formula thats recked but the dash pad is the same except for a few things i guess....what can i do to make the dash from the firebird work in th camaro??
what all is cracked just the dash pad or the hole dash. The dash pads are exactly the same with the same bolt pattern.
not all are some of the camaro ones have a cut out looking thing on the pad for right above the vents in a camaro the birds dont have this thats the only differance i can think of
not all are some of the camaro ones have a cut out looking thing on the pad for right above the vents in a camaro the birds dont have this thats the only differance i can think of
i guess ive never seen that im not much into camaros
ya i cant get it to fit...its a lil smaller also. of course the firebird i took it out of was a formula idk if that makes a difference...i think im prolly going to just get a dash repair kit or something. i wanna try putting the 4th gen dash and center councle in it sometime..that would be neat.
K search the thread thouroughly but nothing on the trunk panels.
Do they fit??? I want to get that sub enclosures that go into the side panels from MTX cause no other companies make it as my research showed. The only problem is they dont make a product for our cars anymore(I think). I have not called them.
I just called my used parts guy and he has a couple driveshafts from a 94 and 95 model. But they come from a standard transmission car. Are they different sizes than a auto tranny one?
Dennis
I work at Advance Auto, so I have a bit of time so look up aftermarket conversions. I'm pretty sure I ran across all 3rd and 4th gen driveshafts, auto and standard, 6 and 8 cyl., being the same, but somebody back me up here. I'll do some research and try to post back about anything else I happen upon.
sail panels wont unless you want a six plus in. gap as far as the rest it would probably be close. the 4th gen rear peice is only a hdf coverd peice but looks almost the same. in the procses of putting my dash now
Doubt it because a 3rd gen shifter won't work with a 4th gen auto console. The shifter is in a different spot when its mounted. I'm leaning towards no but I don't know for sure.
Doubt it because a 3rd gen shifter won't work with a 4th gen auto console. The shifter is in a different spot when its mounted. I'm leaning towards no but I don't know for sure.
the third gen shifter works if you move the shifer down i have the fourth gen console in my 89 and im still using my stock shifter
Sorry to annoy anyone if this does, but I've sifted through here and was kind of confused by all the talk about the consoles... but...
I have an '86 T/A (auto) and was wondering if I could just bolt in a 4th gen center console without having to revert back to manual windows.
depending on what year 4th gen console you get. i got a 96 firebird console and put my switches where the second gear start/ performance shift button http://photobucket.com/358formula
Ok i cant find this. i took power leather seats and belts out of a 95 camaro. I have an 87 ta. I hooked the front driver up by changing to the fourth gen connector (i had GTA seats). The back lower seats didnt wanna work, i bolted it in and it stuck up so i had to hammer the U straight. Now they work. The front seat belts( my question) are different. Where the clip holder is different. It has a 45 degree bend and my 87 doesnt, its straight. Can i just remove the cover and bend it straight? And since my car has the floor mounted retraction thing, would it still bolt up even if i get 82 panels?
Ok i cant find this. i took power leather seats and belts out of a 95 camaro. I have an 87 ta. I hooked the front driver up by changing to the fourth gen connector (i had GTA seats). The back lower seats didnt wanna work, i bolted it in and it stuck up so i had to hammer the U straight. Now they work. The front seat belts( my question) are different. Where the clip holder is different. It has a 45 degree bend and my 87 doesnt, its straight. Can i just remove the cover and bend it straight? And since my car has the floor mounted retraction thing, would it still bolt up even if i get 82 panels?
The seats should have been fine without bending anything. I notice when I bolt mine in they stick up but then I just have to push down and they tuck under the back part.
Seat belt points are all the same, not sure what you are talking about with the 45 degree bend. The 82 panels should basically be the same as the rest except do not have the notch cut out where the retractor would be. Essentially they would cover the retractor hole.
hi i have an 86 camaro will the interior harness form a 4th gen work im my 3rdgen i want to switch them becauseim putting in a lt1 and i want to make a dash and i have 95 z28 gauges and also will the steering columns swap between the two?
Idk the belt that mounts right by the center console (the latch) on the fourth is bent and wouldnt fit due to the bend in it and it hits the seat. the side on mine has the retractor there and has that big notch. Also my rear seat belts mount down by the seats and the fourth mounted up on the fender well.
when you click on this link WWW.TransAmWS6.Com okay a logo or a picture shows up of a third gen with a 4thgen either retro fitted or something i really like it.. is it possible or what???
hi i have an 86 camaro will the interior harness form a 4th gen work im my 3rdgen i want to switch them becauseim putting in a lt1 and i want to make a dash and i have 95 z28 gauges and also will the steering columns swap between the two?
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when you click on this link WWW.TransAmWS6.Com okay a logo or a picture shows up of a third gen with a 4thgen either retro fitted or something i really like it.. is it possible or what???
How much more comfortable are the 4th gen seats than the 3rd gen? is it even worth the hassel?
the hassle? there is no hassle unless you want to put power ones in, its no a complicated process, and maybe if you read this thread you would have already found this out
Yea its not too bad of a process. As far as I can tell, the seats are relatively the same as far as comfort is concerned. Even if the 4th gen seats were slightly more comfortable, that difference alone wouldnt be worth the time and effort (despite how little it may be) needed to do the swap, especially to go from 3rd gen cloth to 4th gen cloth. In my opinion, and probably everyone elses, the reason the swap is worth the effort is for newer, better condition, more comfortable material, A.K.A. 4th gen leather seats or to add power seats.
