Toehead

some of us aren't so lucky.

Slave One

Yea, same here, VERY tight budget...

But I too am very excited about this..
so let me get this straight, Rustoleum also sells a clearcoat, right? If so, and you wetsand and polish very intensely before applying that clearcloatandthen wetsand and polish again... wouldnt that make that paintjob phenomenal?? (considering elverything else was done right..)

Also, would you just paint with the GFX all still on and such??

I think I am seriously going to be doing this guys, and will show you guys the results!!

MechCD

And if you want it done "right" why are you painting over paint? If someone wants paint slapped on paint Maaco has been doing this for years. I don't see how the type of paint makes a difference in sanding it off either

Not all of us have dads or best buddies with their shops that can paint cars for more than I paid for my car.

Its an interesting technique that doesn't look bad, just different. I think it looks almost like the factory paint jobs of the 70s.

Slave One

To anyone who has done this...

Would I just paint with the GFX still on?? Should I add some flex agent when thinning the paint??

I REALLY want to do this... anything is better than this...



By the way, I am doing the body work as we speak...

LUVmy92

I don't think this will hold up longer than a year for those with no garage. I understand people have tight budgets butare you going to spend more money later undoing this "cheap fix"?

I think some of you should just save longer, try harder, and have patience. Check your local community college for paint and bodyshop classes and learn how to do it right. Hell then you could get a job working in a bodyshop and make a career out of your hobby.

For those that try it, good luck.

foney_email

I suggest taking the gfx off. It will keep you from having the paint crack where it fills in the separation. Just paint them off the car. Also, reading the thread on moparts will tell you not to have to worry about the plastic bumpers, or gfx. It bonds well to those surfaces without any extra bonding agent.

Just remember not to use the mineral spirits to thin the clear, only to thin the paint.

Slave One

THanks for the reply!

So dont thin the clear with anything?? ANy idea how many coats??

85z28guy

I owned the boat I painted 3 years after I did it. Finish was the exact same as when I sold it as when I painted it. It was put through the same if not worse conditions then a car, constant vibration, flexing, and banging, walking on the deck, etc. This is the only pic I have of it.

gcgarner

If everybody had a shop like that, this thread would have never existed ...

foney_email

Again, I recommend reading the entire 33+ pages of the mopar thread. It has stories, and experiments, and experience far beyond what any of us have done.

For a quick answer, you thin the clear with lacquer thinner. The mineral spirits will make the clear flatten out, and does not bring out the shine.

I still have not gotten to test this paint. I am going to soon. Let me know if you make any progress slave one. (am I a nerd for knowing what that is in reference to?)

Jay

Slave One

Again, thanks a ton for your reply.. i really do need to sit down an read the whole thing...

Well.. some people might call us that.. but isnt he just such a Badda$$!?

gcgarner

OK, here's the skinny ...

I've read almost all of the thread (should finish it by tonight). My dad and I are going to try this on his primer gray '79 Chevy pickup in a week or two. If that works well, we are going to paint an '86 Trans Am. It is in very rough shape right now (paint & interior anyway ... runs like a CHAMP), so we feel like we don't have much to lose. We were going to have it painted at a body shop later this summer anyway, so if the roll-on doesn't work, we can still stick with Plan A.

I'll post pics.

underdave

This is probably the most interesting thread to come across this board. I personally think it's awesome results for not a lot of money. Of course it's not show car quality, but it seems to be one heck of a quick fix for daily drivers. Heck, I might even try it since my paint already sucks. It can't look much worse.

madhatter

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i dont get why every one knocks everything on this site. i dont have the intention of pissing someone off but who the hell cares what someone else does to their car. its not your car and therefore not your problem. if some one wants to roll the paint on than that is there choice. personally the paint on my car blows so im gonna try rolling it on. anything will be better than what i have. and if it looks like crap in a year or so when i have some money saved then ill do it the other way. every one has the own opinions, maybe some of you should keep it to yourselves and stop knocking people.

vorgath

It looks interesting, I MAY try it on one of my hoods. However what I don't like is that one can't paint metallic nor pearl paints.

Tony89GTA

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Damn that was a long read, 43 pages! but great stuff!!

BigWhiteGTP

Is there a page on that Mopart thread that lists all the parts? Just curious. I want to go buy the parts then read all 33+ pages when I'm ready for it.

3rd-gen junkie

Alright regarding this notorious $50 paint job, it seems way to good to be true. Yes, if you have a car that will be around for a long time and of show quality it definitely should not be painted via roller... but if you live in MI and your car is d@mned no matter what you do, I think this $50 paint job is a good idea. I may try it on my g/f sport coupe, it only has a few years left anyhow, the great state of MI is causing it to turn into a cloud of orange dust :-( Anyhow, I'll stuff it full of bondo and let yall know what happens!!

The_Wraith

I'm gonna try it on christmas break just for laughs on a spare bumper I have.

Bull

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If you do try it, just make sure that you have read a bit of what is posted on that gigantic Mopar board WRT techniques and such. The people who have achieved great results haven't just rolled the paint on and walked away.

And as the pics in that thread show, some people have achieved results with this method that look like polished glass! This doesn't seem to be just for some rat-trap beater that is on its last legs. In fact, the original guy who posted the process, the "inventor" of this method, performed this job on his daily driver orange Charger which looks fine enough for any of us to rock with pride.

STEEL

Ok, I haven't read that entire thread yet, but I will. I am getting ready to buy a 1984 camaro that really, really needs paint.

For a 16 year old on a pizza hut phones person with lots of time and no money, and not a lot of skill, will this turn out better than a MAACO?

EDIT: I have been considering a mettalic Blue, is that possible? Also, should I try it on my current POS before possibly messing up a already messed up Camaro?

Sonix

iTrader: (1)

Yea, with enough time, this should turn out better than a quicky maaco job.

The only issue i'm thinking of, is the old '60s cars are like painting a barn, REAL easy. These 3rd gens have a lot more curves. How're you gonna get a roller on your mirrors? into the door handle grooves? yea, that's the tricky part.

Just do it as the color "metallic blue", like a royal blue or candy blue. I don't think tremclad makes an actual metallic paint, like with metal flakes in it. The normal colors made in tremclad look like the 8 colors of a nintendo. If you paint a car in the BASIC colors, you can tell someone slapped on house paint, it just doesn't have the right color for a car. So mix up your own custom shade so it looks right, maybe paint a section and see how it fits...

Good luck, i'm 8 months behind you on trying this myself

STEEL

well, before I F-up the car that may not be worth much $, but is worth a hell of a lot to me, I think I need to pull-a-part a hood or something for test purposes....

Can the mirrors be removed for painting?

Will vinyls stick to this?

The_Wraith

I read a good 30 pages of the the thread. I would never do this to my car

Bill/T/D/Y

Wow went ta that thred and tried ta read it.22pages???I'll be skimmin it for a year.But I did do this kinda "*******"paint job on my ole F-100 about 3 yrs ago and have to say that the housepaint primer that i poured on it and spread with paint brushs and rollers did lay out flat enuff that it looked like a spray job and it's just as grey and solid today as it was when first done.While the spray paint jobs it got every yr b4 faded by the next summer.And ta be honest i usually sprung for the rustolium at wally world.
I do luv the concept the original poster outlined and plan to actually try this and seeing as i have a few toys ta choose from it's no biggie.

vorgath

What kind of primer was this ? I may need a different kind of primer when I work on finishing my hood.

STEEL

Wow this is a long read! I got to page 44 of the original thread, only to find a link to another one!

StreetRoc85 350

well, the results look good. i mean i dont really care if you sand it with a brick and paint it with nailpolish, if the end result is clean, then im not going to hate on someone for doing it.


dont know if id do it myself though.....

ricktaylor

Alright fella's, Ive found this interesting after reading everything and looking at the links and all and seeing this guys finnished result's. Even funny! Anyhow Im pretty fair with the air gun and I redid my 84 z and was happy and did acouple fenders here and there so I went to Lowes and bought a quart of high gloss black and everything else this guy used. I have a 1992 olds 88 royal that is my daily driver, lots of scratches and some fading of the origional black paint. I wax and grease removed on the drivers mirror/door handle and front bumper"all black" then sanded them down as I would on any car paint project, reprepped then rolled and brushed with this rustoleum thinned out as this cat did, instead of the sanding between coats I did it everyother coat. I wet sanded and buffed it out and it looks great, you cant tell the diff from the factory black to this rusto paint, since I painted these parts as an experiment I've had it in snow and salt and had the car in the car wash 3 or 4 times and not been to merciful with the pressure washer and it hasnt came off! Me myself I would rather paint with automotive paints, but there again to each his own, if it works for you and works well, go ahead. Just thought I'd let everybody know that it looks good has a great shine and so far has been very durable. I would be concerned about using this on flexable parts, possibly you could use some kind of flex agent in it. I dont know.

BigWhiteGTP

PICS!!!!! I got a black car and I would love, NO, NEED to see pics of what Black rustoleum looks like.

Bull

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Yeah, if you actually used this method, you gotta share some pics since I think you are the first board member to try it out.

If it worked so well, why do you say you'd still prefer to use automotive paint, out of curiosity?

gray89vert

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i saw that a while back and was really considering it. i still am but not for a while. i really dont wanna do all that wet sanding. i have like 25+ hours into body work on my car already and the whole thing isn't primed yet.

Styluss

Ressurect this dead thread!!!

Hi, my name is Ryan Haenny. I am the author of a version of the $50 job you guys are referring to. If you would like to check it out, feel free:

The Poor Mans Paint Job

There you will find a comprehensive write up on how to do this cheapo paint job yourself. There is also a film demonstrating the application technique, as well as an update on the paint 6 months after the initial application.

I paint my own car with this method and it came out great! Dont get me wrong, there are some lines in the paint and it is not perfect, but for a total cost of $65.00, it cannot be beat. And trust me on that one, I have used the $500 job Maaco provides before and will NEVER go back.

Let me know what you think!

tilstad

I think you need some paint softener to be able to paint flexible plastic/rubber bumpers. So that would add to the cost slightly.

DCOWBOYS1975

Great article. Your bumpers are plastic just like third gen Camaros right?
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grthrawn

for anyone who wants to put down this paint job i just painted my t/a like this. everyone who has seen cant tell its rolled on. the paint has the same depth and shine as the factory paint did when it was new. mopar is now up to 2 83page threads about this paint so please read it.. my car is primarrily used for drag racing and is not a trailer queen, for some reason i just cant fork out major cash for paint on a drag car that doesnt even make it on the street.

Gibson27

iTrader: (1)

Most people are not doing the Rustoleum or Tremclad because of a new paint found to be far superior. It's Brightside Polyurethane Boat paint made by INTERLUX. Has much better shine and is more durable. I believe the Mopar Paint Job on a budget is in thread 3 now.

DCOWBOYS1975

Is this done the same way as the Rustoleum or Tremclad?? Please let me know.

Gibson27

iTrader: (1)

essentially yes. Brightside covers better so less coats of paint are applied.

Spitzfiya

Why dont you just rent or borrow a compressor, buy a $50 spray gun, do all your body work yourself and go to town?

Materials and paint are $200

What $250? for a professional paint job that will look only as good as your skills with a gun?

Don't use rollers lol...

Tmic87TPI

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I agree with spitzfiya, some of my friends have painted their muddin trucks with single stage paint from eastwood, costed them 125 for the gallon of paint.

DCOWBOYS1975

Same application and dilution with the mineral spirits do you know?

Thanks, Trey

Gibson27

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To tell the truth I can't remember the ratio or if it was thinned at all. I remember the self-levelling properties were great so less coats were applied. Maybe 3-4 Max.

If I was to do it, I'd spray it on, or get single stage.

draco587

gees oman u guys are not hot rodders or even wrenches im 45 years old ive been playing with cars since i was 12 my dad told me if i could get the 63 impala ss in the yard running i could drive it on the dirt road near my house . it took all summer but i drove it. painting a car with a brush is not some new idea they have been doing it for years and if its done right i dar anyone of you to tell !! i have worked in body shops and painted cars most of you guys wouldnt be able to tell laquer from base coat and as far as what the guy does to your car when u give it to him you have no idea ! he could be using a brush but if it comes out looking good who cares !!i say roll on you cant hurt it if its already ugly !!! and yes we are all not rich !!! so if you can do something that looks good cheap go for it

DCOWBOYS1975

AMEN. I never seen people get so bent out of shape about other people painting there cars. Not everyone has a rich Mommy and Daddy that pays for everything. I'm gonna do it to my Camaro and I hope it pisses all you busters that want to Just dog people off!!!!

grthrawn

i would honestly be more than happy to spray my car in single stage however there is space for it and the garage is not vented. whith a roll on paint job there is no mess! so whenever one you wants to let me a barrow a paint both for free let me know. and any paint on a car really just looks as good as the body work underneath it. if there is flaws in the body the paint will look bad no matter what.