84noname

ok guys here ya go, not my first car i have save, and not the worst, but man its startn to look ok, i might keep it, worst pics first then so far what i have done, will post up dates

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now:

redfire82

looks like you may need a new fender

84noname

i do but i have alot of extra bondo left from my mustang, so im not going to buy one, i can make it look pretty good after i mess with it for a while. i am selling the car so i really dont care too much if its not perfect

Tmic87TPI

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I feel bad for the poor guy whos gonna buy that. although its kinda like what Im doing to my brothers camaro

327_TPI_77_Maro

iTrader: (8)

Get a new friekin fender!! That is not fixable, especially not with tons of filler. Third gen NEW fenders are under $100 for a repro, and they fit fine (or get a $25 junkyard fender, they are everywhere). That is a throw away fender, if ever I have seen one. Oh man I am sorry I looked at that pic

89RsPower!

oh my god.. lol

327_TPI_77_Maro

iTrader: (8)

No wonder 3rd gens have the "beater" reputation. LOL. That car needs a hood, nose, and fender. From a U pull it junkyard that will cost less than $100 (I've done it).

Tmic87TPI

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I think he could get away with that hood, but definitely needs a new nose and fender.

327_TPI_77_Maro

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I don't know, that hood is really bent, not just in the front either, it will never shut right. The hoods are so thin on these cars, I just throw them out when they get dents. They are so cheap it is not worth trying to fix them. Hell I have a perfect condition 85-90 TA hood w/ louvers, I'd let it go cheap.

Tmic87TPI

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my brothers hood was worse then that and now you really cant tell anything happened. but Im not old enough to get into junk yards so I had to try to straighten it.

ntomsheck

iTrader: (1)

Lol use the old "I left my ID at home" thing and tell them that you are whatever age you need to be. I guess what you did will work. Definitely not the best option, but hey, whatever gets you through life.

87 formy

wow........

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You didn't pull that out too far, huh...



I didn't know there was an age limit at junk yards, how old do you have to be to get in? 18?

18inchboyds

take a match to it .

Tmic87TPI

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in ct they wont even let me in with my Dad, not sure what the required age is though. probably 18

84noname

its fiberglass actually, im not wasting time on a fender the front end is bent and a new fender wont fit. if and when i get a nose and hood ill get the fender and try to make everything fit, but its pretty messed up in the front...its why i got the car for 100 bucks

84noname

ok i found a fender on a 91 bird i hope i can make it fit cus im tired of messing with this one...heres how far i got...problem is with how its been hit and the only place that had a fender wanted $100 and i just found one yesterday evening at pull a part so i hope its still there..are there any issues with a 91 on a 84???the car is picked pretty clean so no body kit stuff or hood

TheMutt

aftermket not even 50 bucks. take that back, that was camaro... firebird maybe.

84noname

ok here it is plus i got the front support where the hood latch goes cus mine was trashed , got it all for $38

naterman35

I wasn't aware there was age limits either....

84noname

yeah 16 w/parent at my local yard, under 16 not allowed
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yeah now i just need the hood and nose, but the frame that bolts to the front bumper is pretty bent and the core support too

Bazookajoe254

The age limit for junkyards here in Jacksonville, FL is 18. I can't go in with my dad either.

But in 22 days I can

84noname

well the frame is bent in the front really bad, probably have to be cut off and replaced with a peice off another bird or just remove the inner bumper period temporarily, its whats pulling the nose too close for the hood to line up. so basically looks like i need to fix the part that sticks out and bolts to the front bumper and a new nose plus the metal along the top of the nose and a hood and i should be good. partof the light bracket is broken too but it still works fine but needs to be replaced if i can ever find one. these car are hard to find in boneyards where i live. heres pics

84noname

what year nose is on your car???85 ta?thats the one im looking for

84noname

well it getting there, had to cut the corner end of the inner bumper off, god i love swazallsthe thing was in the way of the fender. now im just trying to get the nose to fit as good as possible considering the shape its in till i can find a new one. the car looks nice now compared to before. once im done with this its on to sanding all my rust spots and flat black prime the entire car. the rest of the car is in good shape thank god. there is a dent in the front of the other fender but its fine for now, i will worry about it later. maybe grab the other 90 fender at the bone yard when i have more cash if its still there

84noname

ok its all done heres how it looks, everything lined up pretty good just the nose is off a lil. pics:

327_TPI_77_Maro

iTrader: (8)

The fender is a lot better, but it looks like the nose is hosed and will need to be replaced too. I had one of those noses in mint shape but threw it out when I converted my 83 to the 85-90 TA nose, rear bumper, and ground effects.

84noname

yeah i think its the 85-90 TA nose im after...lol, yeah this one is toast!!!!bout to go for a drive

327_TPI_77_Maro

iTrader: (8)

You will have to change the rear bumper, and add all of the ground effects, including metal body brackets, to use the 85+ TA nose. It was a big ordeal.

84noname

yeah but it would be worth it, the car i got my fender from was a v6 but it had whatever was on a 1990 and grounds on the fender nose end, and a kinda goofy lookn back bumper too that had weird lips on its edges
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if you look at my side pic you can see the metal trim to hook the grounds onto

327_TPI_77_Maro

iTrader: (8)

Yah 90+ had the awful banshee style body kit. Some like it, I don't .

84noname

yeah it looks nasty in my opinion too. i dont want that style

84noname

been sanding my rust spots and primered the fender and alot of the car today. im just using flat black primerand will leave it like that till i have a new nose and hood and the body kit i wantto make it klook lie a 85-89 ta i think. what is the differance between a ta and a gta? i will take and post some pics of the car tomorrow in its primered stae, its look alot better, but theres so much rust everywhere on the roof that im concerned, i didnt sand it al so i need to go back over it soon, maybe try that rust remover /converter spray. dont want a hole rusted in my roof a year or 2 later cus i was lazy. i think this car could be nice one day soon if i get a real job,lol!! i like restoring cars rather than getting a car someone else has restored or just maintained. im kinda falling in love with this car, at first i was just going to sell it soon as i got the title in my name, well i have had the title 2 weeks and its not for sale. i have save much worse mustangs so i can save a 3rd gen now too

Dr. Pepper

Wow, you are really putting an effort in to this but I don't think you are approaching the problem from the right direction.

Start by taking off the bumper cover, bumper, radiator, and both front fenders. Search for any wrinkles or distortions in the structural members. Straighten anything you find that is damaged. If what you find it too severe to straighten then cut it out and replace it with a piece from another car.

After the structural pieces and mounting points are back straight and even put the radiator and bumper back on and check things again. You will probably have to do a little bit of work to the bumper to make it right again. After those are in and looking good put a different bumper cover on the car. It might be possible to fix the on you have with heat, but it will take lots of work to come close to getting it right.

After the bumper cover is on put the fenders back on and start figuring out which pieces are out of shape or position. Try to get the fenders square with each other and the car. Then try to get the hood to line up between the fenders properly. It will take some measuring and a good eye to figure out what is right and what needs work.

Once you are done with an inside-out approach like this things will look right and, if you do good work, will be as good as new. As you are approaching things now the car will never look right. It will always look "tweaked" because the gaps won't line up, the headlight will be crooked, and the front end will appear uneven.

If you are just in this for a quick in & out, then just slap a new fender and bumper cover on the car, bondo the hood a little, paint with a very low gloss paint and sell. The car won't look right but it won't look right anyways if you don't get the non-cosmetic parts back in shape.

84noname

heres some more current pics, the first has the latch pan i replaced so the nose sits on it much better, the fender lines up great, i neead a new bracket for the headlight since its partly broken. just cleaning up rust spots now till i run across my parts at pull a part

84noname

krylon brbq black looks good, and one can went a long ways, look at these pics, man it looks alot better black






TOO BAD THE CAR IN THE BACKROUND WILL SMOKE THE PANTS OFF THE BIRD CUS ITS STARTING TO LOOK ALOT SEXIER THAN THE 5.0

noahTHEpurdy

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I don't know what to say to this thread. =/

84noname

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well it started out as an attempt to save a useless fender...lol. now its about removing rust spots and primer and paint, and gettind a new nose and a harwood 3" cowl hood!!! and the ta trim and this thing will look sweet

Tmic87TPI

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looks a lot better now, good luck with the rest. and I'm sure the mustang will lose to the bird some day.

83Chevy__Camaro

bbq black? well thats a first

84noname

yeah be nice to have a bird that eats horses! lol... the only things that seem to own the mustang are usually ls1 swap cars. ls1=own you i have raced a few 350 camaros and won every time, just stock ones i think. i like having both kinds of cars cus i dont have to be one way or the other. i respect both makes as they are both great cars with potential to eat up most other cars out there.
yeah brbq paint, its high temp stuff, lol looks great, sorta a semi gloss black. looks good just need some more of it

8T9 BANDIT

84noname

the paint was free

TA5point0

iTrader: (13)

im argreeing with dr. pepper... if u plan on keepin the car and dont want the front end looking like shortcuts have been taken to make a cheep fix after it gets painted i would try straightening that frame or cuttin the tweaked parts out and welding in new peices.. car will be good as new, the right way

Tobias05

lol, looks alot better though bro. like the others said a new nose and hood and you won't be able to tell it was ever in an accident. keep up the progress.

the flat black is just till you get some real paint right? or you going for that old grass roots hotrod look?

IROC-You

Please, put that car out of its misery, send it to the junkyard.

I hate seeing ugly thirdgens driving around, they look like mullletmobiles and give the rest of us a bad repuation.


No offense to anyone who drives an ugly thirdgen or anyone with a mulllet.

8T9 BANDIT

i feel bad to say it but -

jay_d

Too bad.....but if u only gave 100$ for id sell it very quick

duckmanquacker

I dunno I think hes doin a good job reviving the poor beast. I've seen many cars in better shape go to the crusher (which pisses me off) my poor camaro needs 2 fenders and a hood thanx to some 4legged deer.

Slipjack

I think he's on the right track. Putting it out of it's misery at this stage is a waste of a good project car. Besides, whether or not it looks good doesn't mean that it will never roast the tires. Some people like the sleeper look.

If third gens have a bad reputation for looking like mulllet-mobiles, then the people that feel that way apparently don't like them no matter how they look. We all know how many sexy third gen f-bodies there are out there on the streets.

Let's hold the negative criticism at least until he says he's done with it. In the mean time, let's just see if there is any way we can help.

327_TPI_77_Maro

iTrader: (8)

Of course we don't like them no matter how they look. I don't like trashed versions of any car. And the mu llet mobiles do give 3rd gens a bad name. The "average" 3rd gen has beat in doors, both sides, and cracked GFX. It is unusual to see a really clean one nowadays.