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Old 09-06-2012, 05:20 PM
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Fiberglass / Carbon Fiber Hood - R U Down?

I just wanted to show yall some of the convo I been having with Anvil... please see the emails below and post. I'm trying to get a few places interested in making carbon fiber parts for Mid-Year F-bodies

Please post, I'm trying to show them the level of interest
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There are quite a few ppl interested interested in the following
- fiberglass hood
- carbon fiber "looks" hood (carbon fiber over fiberglass)
- true light weight all carbon fiber hood

I never have anyone to help me take off my 65lbs hood, but if it where more like 20lbs... would be no problem.

Again, just to be clear... There are currently fiberglass RS style hoods (will not take louvers) and carbon fiber cowl hoods... but there is little to no interest in these... The reason the response has always been luke warm is because the proper IROC style of hood (that will take louvers) was never offered by anyone other than the Canadian guy... If I'm not mistaken, his shop is closed... I will try to find some contact info for him to pass along.

A lot of people are looking for fiberglass/carbon fiber hoods that will take IROC louvers

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Hi Blake,

We have been batting around the idea of making 3rd gen parts for quite a while, but because of molding costs and only luke warm interest we have held off. Your email has got the wheels going again and we were wondering if you have any contact information (business name, address, phone number) for the guy in Canada who was making them. We're thinking that if he still has molds we could possibly buy them from him and produce the hood ourselves. Any info you or any one from thirdgen.org could give us would be greatly appreciated.

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Hello,
Myself and quite a few others on the popular site thirdgen.org aka TGO have been looking quite some time for a light weight carbon fiber or fiberglass hood that will take the factory louvers. We have found that no company makes such a thing. There was a guy in Canada making them, but sold only 3 because he failed to advertise. Now that everyone knows about it, he will no longer produce. Only 2 of these hoods where sent to America.

What's it going to take for a vendor to step up and start making some parts for 82-92 (mid-year) f-body's? There is a huge market, but no suppliers. Anyway, here is a pic of one of the hoods that made it to the USA.

Can you make these? Minimum order?

Blake Charles

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Re: Fiberglass / Carbon Fiber Hood - R U Down?

I actually talked to them quite a bit about this when I saw the Anvil stand at the Good Guys Car Show. I recently got a lot of Carbon Fiber parts from them for a 1969 Camaro.

The quality of the part was great and they are a nice bunch of guys to do biz with. I was told that they actually started on this, but scrapped the idea.

Who else wants a CF hood??
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Nobody has anything to say huh?? bump!
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Re: Fiberglass / Carbon Fiber Hood - R U Down?

I think a CF hood would be awesome! Count me in, we need to show that there is a market for 3rd gens.
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I would just make my own if I wanted one but I'm sure there are plenty of people out there that don't have the knowledge or the resources to make composite parts.
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wow! ONLY 1 PERSON? funny because when someone was making these, nobody knew about it until AFTER he stopped due to lack of interest.... then ppl started popping up all over the place saying they would have been in on it if they had known. here we are presented with a similar opportunity....

If I cant get anyone else on on board, I will most likely have to make my own as well.
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here is another
Hi Blake,

I am also trying to research this. If you find out anything on who the guy in Canada is, please let me know. Even an old company name would help. I will keep you in the loop and let you know where we're at as we move forward.

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Re: Fiberglass / Carbon Fiber Hood - R U Down?

I contacted Anvil... Tracey Cambell, and they seemed to think that the market was coming back and be looking into more development of parts for our cars. I sent him every pic I could of the "Japanese" heat extractor hood. He seemed interested and I am supposedly on a list when parts will be available.

I'm still interested.
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Someone needs to make a fiberglass "IROC" hood.
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This guy dose some vary nice work!!! I saw some mustang molds that he made and decided to contact him. This is what he said. The below represents a "sun cured" hood if I am not mistaken. Not sure if this is high pressure or hi temp cured, I'm guessing it's how the price is kept so low... most likely a lightweight "looks" deal.


Well I could...The mold set would cost you around $1000-$1500 to build if being pulled from a ready designed/finished plug(hood), then the first complete hood from it would have to be priced pretty high at around -$500. Then, with the cured/ready for production mold, a competitively priced hood could be made at $300-$400(and many,many more with proper mold care/maintenance, of course).

If you also purchased the materials for building the mold set, then the mold would belong to you, and you could use it as you wish or hire someone to lay up hoods for you.

The only way I would even be intrested in doing this again would be with a new design(or unavailable old design) with real market value and huge demand. I have no idea if the iroc design hood is available in the aftermarket or not, nor if it would have much demand. I stayed away from the f body hoods in the past because they are just so freakin big compared to the mustangs, and the fox mustang hoods was in huge demand then.,GT
Hey,
I saw the below ad and was wondering if you can make a mold for a Chevy Camaro 82-89 "IROC" hood? I'm looking for a fiberglass hood that will still take the factory louvers. Can you do this?
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Re: Fiberglass / Carbon Fiber Hood - R U Down?

Originally Posted by BADNBLK
I contacted Anvil... Tracey Cambell, and they seemed to think that the market was coming back and be looking into more development of parts for our cars. I sent him every pic I could of the "Japanese" heat extractor hood. He seemed interested and I am supposedly on a list when parts will be available.

I'm still interested.
I was able to talk to tracy @ the good guys car show and I was told they had been looking into this for a while but never pulled the trigger. They don't think the parts will sale, I beg to differ tho.

Originally Posted by 85_ZED28
Someone needs to make a fiberglass "IROC" hood.
I agree... pulling my hood off by myself is always such a pain. 60lbs is not crazy heavy, but due to the size of the hood, it's vary difficult for me.
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I was able to talk to tracy @ the good guys car show and I was told they had been looking into this for a while but never pulled the trigger. They don't think the parts will sale, I beg to differ tho.
I don't think that the parts will sell like they probably need them too, to be profitable. Doesn't mean I wouldn't bug them about making the hood I want. They are making parts for guys with really deep pockets, and collectible cars. One of two things is gonna happen... our pockets get deeper, or the demand for these cars modified will justify the market.

I would be really excited for them to make something. Wish those B-holes is japan would just sell us some of their carbon hoods.
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Originally Posted by BADNBLK
I don't think that the parts will sell like they probably need them too, to be profitable. Doesn't mean I wouldn't bug them about making the hood I want. They are making parts for guys with really deep pockets, and collectible cars. One of two things is gonna happen... our pockets get deeper, or the demand for these cars modified will justify the market.

I would be really excited for them to make something. Wish those B-holes is japan would just sell us some of their carbon hoods.
Maybe your right, not too many willing to drop $600-$900 on a hood (Anvil is expensive). I also didn't figure it would be such a huge PITA to make a few if you already have mold. You don't have to mass produce these things.

in the case of thirdgens they could be made as needed.
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Re: Fiberglass / Carbon Fiber Hood - R U Down?

WEll Im interested as I even posted this a month or so ago. I dont want a COWL hood I want to keep the factory look just with CF
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I'm interested, but it would depend on the cash flow when it became available, and I'd want to see one finished first so I know I wouldn't be changing my car from a stock appearance.
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Re: Fiberglass / Carbon Fiber Hood - R U Down?

I have clearly specified multiple times that we are looking for a IROC style hood that will take the factory louvers.... not sure how to be any more clear than that. Let's just hope they get the point.
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A RAM air carbon fiber hood is what I would want.. Like the RAM AIR II hood (with the opening in the front for a REAL ram air effect). Also other parts for our cars like the heavy dash, trunk lid, etc. There is a list on another thread where everyone posted things they would want in carbon fiber.. I think it would also depend on what is POSSIBLE to be made into carbon fiber.. If the sky was the limit, I would say a super lightweight TPI induction system, t-tops, IROC replica wheels (in bigger sizes), axles (is this even possible? but would be light), driveshaft, complete hatch (minus window), front spoiler and rear bumper and side skirts, complete front nose of car, seat brackets, automatic and manual shifter *****, internal engine and transmission parts, etc..
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I already have a CF hood. Well, actually I think its a fiberglass 3" cowl hood with CF covering. Looks good and really light. What I'd like to see is a CF deckid to match.
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Originally Posted by blakecharles
I have clearly specified multiple times that we are looking for a IROC style hood that will take the factory louvers.... not sure how to be any more clear than that. Let's just hope they get the point.
That doesn't mean their mold will produce a hood that will fit the way I want mine to without having issues getting the right clearances. I've dealt with lots of shoddy body panels from people who do a half a** job making their products in the past. That's why I want to see one mounted first before I buy one.

I didn't say anything about the louvers fitting.
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Originally Posted by Marine_Marauder
That doesn't mean their mold will produce a hood that will fit the way I want mine to without having issues getting the right clearances. I've dealt with lots of shoddy body panels from people who do a half a** job making their products in the past. That's why I want to see one mounted first before I buy one.

I didn't say anything about the louvers fitting.
have you ever scene an Anvil product in person? They are vary nice pieces and I never had fitment issues with the parts I have for my 69 camaro, everything lines up like stock. These guys only produce carbon fiber parts. I wont flood the thread, just google them...

They are not in the biz of making half *** parts (they are VARY WELL KNOWN). That is the reason I contacted them.

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here is another
Thanks Blake, that really helps. I will contact him and let you know what I find out.

Best,

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Originally Posted by blakecharles
have you ever scene an Anvil product in person? They are vary nice pieces and I never had fitment issues with the parts I have for my 69 camaro. These guys only produce carbon fiber parts (here in the USA - not like it matters). I wont flood the thread, just google them...

They are not in the biz of making half *** parts (they are VARY WELL KNOWN). That is the reason I contacted them.
NO! That's why I wanna see it first!

Don't take it personal brother...
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Originally Posted by Tony V
I already have a CF hood. Well, actually I think its a fiberglass 3" cowl hood with CF covering. Looks good and really light. What I'd like to see is a CF deckid to match.
The CF decklid is already being made
http://extremedimensions.com/82-92-Camaro-CC-OEM-T.html

and camaro spoiler
http://extremedimensions.com/82-92-C...-Xtreme-W.html

No CF 3rd gen 'bird specific parts exist tho
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Originally Posted by lb9 GTA

No CF 3rd gen 'bird specific parts exist tho
yeah, whats the deal with that? The birds are nicer cars anyway (flame suit on)
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I'm in 100% for a QUALITY hood at normal Anvil prices. No doubt Anvil makes good stuff. Agreed, must be an IROC style hood.
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I've heard bad things about extreme dimensions, but their wing looks nice like hawks but it's a bit more expensive than Hawks' wing. I wonder if their wing is real carbon fiber, stiff but lightweight?
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Originally Posted by hellz_wings
I've heard bad things about extreme dimensions, but their wing looks nice like hawks but it's a bit more expensive than Hawks' wing. I wonder if their wing is real carbon fiber, stiff but lightweight?
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bump!

anyone else??
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i want to see them produce a hood for our cars with the new zl1 hood louver in it... functional of course ...;]
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I'd love to get a carbon fiber SS style hood for these cars and even a carbon fiber 91-92 Z28 wing would be awesome
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A functional SS hood would be extremely nice.
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a carbon fiber 91-92 Z28 wing would be awesome
Hell yah! I'm down for that.
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Originally Posted by lb9 GTA
No CF 3rd gen 'bird specific parts exist tho
Yeah. What's up with that?
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I want a quality carbon fiber or fiberglass hood but damn! Does anvil auto f&*%#@ hand make their carbon fiber and fiberglass body parts?
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Count me in for sure as well CF hood would be very nice.
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Ok. So just found this thread. I'll take a hood!!! Maybe some ground effects? Fenders? Front bumper cover!?! Some interior parts, like say for the console and dash, maybe even a dash pad replacement. All carbon fiber obviously. Never really cared for fiber glass.
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TTT

anyone else?
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Wow! they are right, no interest... guess I will go about making my own and go from there.
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I'd be interested. I want a hood to replace mine on the Iroc
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Re: Fiberglass / Carbon Fiber Hood - R U Down?

Originally Posted by blakecharles
Wow! they are right, no interest... guess I will go about making my own and go from there.
This thread turned into a wishlist dream land of I want this and that. I think that anyone that has the money to actually pull the trigger on these CF parts is gonna wanna see a finished part before committing to putting down money on imaginary parts.

I think you should make what you want if you have the ability, and then say screw Anvil, and sell what you make here... hopefully for a profit enough to make it worth it.
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Re: Fiberglass / Carbon Fiber Hood - R U Down?

The funny thing is, this thread is all about a wish list of "I want this and I want that". The original poster wanted to measure interest of some carbon fiber parts but it doesn't look like enough responses.
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Re: Fiberglass / Carbon Fiber Hood - R U Down?

I'm not asking anyone to put down money (although it would be nice). I'm just trying to show enough interest for a well known CF parts manufacture to pull the trigger.

They where already thinking about doing this, but never did due to the low level of responses. Seems like nobody ever wants one until

This is just like before, nobody wanted them until 1 person posted a pic. By then, the person making the hoods gave up. He didn't do a good job of advertising the hoods nor did he post pics. I will not make the same mistake he did.
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Re: Fiberglass / Carbon Fiber Hood - R U Down?

I been looking into this for a while now, seems like making the shell is not all that hard. Where I'm running into a wall is creating the stiffening ribs and combining it with the shell.

Here a shell was made, seems like quite a bit of work. but not rocket science.


The ribs from the actual hood was used, carbon parts where not made.



Has anyone removed the ribs from an IROC hood???

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I am going to spend whatever it takes to get the heat extractor hood. The IROC hood is played out, who hasn't seen that hood a million times already. If I'm going to spend 1000+ for a hood I'd like it to be unique. I think the hood is around 1500 and shipping 500-1000 from Japan. I am still doing turbo fab and other mock up fab but that hood will be mine, oh yes... it will be mine! I would also buy a CF 91-92 wing and the little door vents in the door jam, also the part where the fog lights go etc.... Bring on the CF, love ANVIL products, style and their interpretations on recreation of factory equip
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Re: Fiberglass / Carbon Fiber Hood - R U Down?

Originally Posted by BADNBLK
This thread turned into a wishlist dream land of I want this and that. I think that anyone that has the money to actually pull the trigger on these CF parts is gonna wanna see a finished part before committing to putting down money on imaginary parts.

I think you should make what you want if you have the ability, and then say screw Anvil, and sell what you make here... hopefully for a profit enough to make it worth it.
BINGO !! WISHLIST with only a handful of people who would actually pay up.
(kinda like my billet emblems. People LOVE EM. WANT EM but only a handful of buy em)
This is why I never went forward with making a mold (the expensive part) of making a hood.


OP if you search here on TGO for Carbon Fiber parts. I'm sure you will see over the years this ALWAYS comes up. Ive offered YEARS ago to make a CF iroc style hood.

The problem is true grade A carbon products are big $$ to do it RIGHT. not for just looks but actually vacuum bagged and autoclaved to achieve a LIGHT & STRONG part. for a QUALITY part your talking $650 -1200 per hood.

You can also go cheaper with a Fiberglass hood with a single layer of CF for "THE LOOK"
For the People who just want "THE CF LOOK" they make cf vinyl thats really good quality and looks as real as it can.
This is a nice product
http://www.carbonfabricsource.com/sh...c-carbon-wrap/

This is a wrap I did on a old car I had.


You can also SKIN parts. Ive done this methd also. Comes out nice too.

Sorry to ramble on. Back to the topic. Id love to see a Big Co. start making 3rdGen parts.
If it was worth while Id have made em or would make them but it is A LOT of work doing HAND MADE batches of hoods. Good luck I hope you can get enough interest to get Anvil or anyne else to make them for everyone.
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Re: Fiberglass / Carbon Fiber Hood - R U Down?

seems like there is not enough ppl willing to pay for a carbon fiber hood produced by a big company (even if they could see it in person) and hand laying hoods is too much work to only charge a few hundred dollars.
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Re: Fiberglass / Carbon Fiber Hood - R U Down?

Im willing to Spend 1000 On a Normal Carbon Fiber Hood, I dont want any of this cowl crap!
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Re: Fiberglass / Carbon Fiber Hood - R U Down?

Can someone explain to me why I should pay North of $1000 for a carbon fiber hood?
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Re: Fiberglass / Carbon Fiber Hood - R U Down?

Originally Posted by Tibo
Can someone explain to me why I should pay North of $1000 for a carbon fiber hood?
If someone needs to explain it to you, then clearly its not the right product for you.

For the rest of us, there are few reasons why we are interested.

- weight savings, a carbon hood should be a GOOD bit lighter than the stock steel hood, and this weight is up high.

- carbon fiber is much stiffer and stronger than fiberglass, nice for those of us that don't like floppy hoods

- Anvil is known for making very high quality stuff. I feel much more confident their hood will be bolt than anyone else


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