BodyGeneral body information and techniques for restoration, repairs, and modification.
Sponsored by ThirdGen Ranch
Welcome to ThirdGen.org!
Welcome to ThirdGen.org.
You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, join the ThirdGen.org community today!
This is a universal kit that's not avaliable yet. They will run around $65.00. These are so cool! There's even a video at the link to see them in action. The needle kits will be availiable in 3 colors. Sonic Blue (pictured), Hyper Red and Super Green. The kits will be priced per large and small needle. The avereage cluster with 2 large needles and 2 small needles in Sonic Blue will be about $65. Prices are not finalized as of yet. Whatcha think? You have to see the video guys!
It said in one of the parts that it was done just by taking off the needle, scraping the back, and then coloring it with a sharpie. I don't know if our needles light like that though, that might be something that they only do on foreign cars or the newer ones... I really want to go check now though...
Yea, it said:
The IntelliGlow needle kits will require 2 things to work with your vehicle.
1. Your vehicles gauges must have needles made of clear plastic. The needles that you currently have may have a colored paint on the back of them making to give it the look of a solid color needle. (Example: 90-94 Mitsubushi Eclipse)
2. Your vehicle must run on a 12 volt system with a negative chassis.
I just went outside and looked at my gauges in my T/A and they are clear with orange paint on the backside. So I'm sure that all you'd have to do is scrap the paint off.
------------------
'87 Trans Am:
(Engine)
305 TPI
180 Degree Thermostat
JET Fan Switch
TB Bypass
Accel 300+ 8.8 Racing Wires
Accel Super Coil
Bosch Platinium Plugs
Custom Ram Air with K&N
Removed Emissions Equipment & Cat.
(Stereo)
Full Kenwood Excelon System
------------------ The IROC Homepage
<A HREF="http://www.rit.edu/~jli4307/camaro" TARGET=_blank>
View the restoration of an 85 IROC</A>
"I didn't know a bored out Ford could go so slow" -Shenandoah
Pardon me while I change my pants from the massive orgasm I had in wanting those tacks
------------------
92 Rs Heritage Edition Camaro
305
3.27 posi Rear end
Flow masters
not to much else to make it more than stock until I put that 350 in shortly
Those ARE too cool! Unfortunately, I don't think we can make them work on our pre-90 Camaros
What we need is MacEwen or someone to make complete aftermarket factory replacement gauges like that specifically for our thirdgens, with backlit numbers, white faces, transparent orange/blue/green/etc needles (colored so we can see them during the day on the white face), and all!
I've been searching all over the internet to find out more info on these gauges and to answer your question Blue502. You're right about not being able to see to clear needles against the white background during the day. To fix the problem from what I've seen is to just paint the very tips of the needles like this pic. and leave the rest of it clear.
------------------
'87 Trans Am:
(Engine)
305 TPI
180 Degree Thermostat
JET Fan Switch
TB Bypass
Accel 300+ 8.8 Racing Wires
Accel Super Coil
Bosch Platinium Plugs
Custom Ram Air with K&N
Removed Emissions Equipment & Cat.
(Stereo)
Full Kenwood Excelon System
I'm sorry but I hate those gauge overlays.. they just look so trashy to me.. perhaps I'm seeing them in the wrong light or something.. someone please fill me in on why they are so popular.. all I see is a piece of paper cut out with the nnumbers and stuck ontop of the old black one..
------------------
92 Rs Heritage Edition Camaro
305
3.27 posi Rear end
Flow masters
not to much else to make it more than stock until I put that 350 in shortly
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Red Demon: I'm sorry but I hate those gauge overlays.. they just look so trashy to me.. perhaps I'm seeing them in the wrong light or something.. someone please fill me in on why they are so popular.. all I see is a piece of paper cut out with the nnumbers and stuck ontop of the old black one.. </font>
Yea I agree that the Guage Overlays above don't look as good as the Macewen Gauge Overlays I've ordered. I haven't gotten them yet but the pictures look really good. As for them looking like paper over black guages, I don't think they do that's why I ordered them.
------------------
'87 Trans Am:
(Engine)
305 TPI
180 Degree Thermostat
JET Fan Switch
TB Bypass
Accel 300+ 8.8 Racing Wires
Accel Super Coil
Bosch Platinium Plugs
Custom Ram Air with K&N
Removed Emissions Equipment & Cat.
(Stereo)
Full Kenwood Excelon System
I think we can make those work ourselves w/out having to wait for those people to release them. Last time I took my cluster out I remember there was a bulb right in the middle of the gauge and the light from THAT bulb shines trough the needle. Well if we can stick a couple of high powered blue or red LEDs in where the bulb used to be ? Woudlnt the needle turn a very bright blue or red ? I'm gonna try this
------------------
92 Z28 5.7
------------------
Trick Flow 23° heads, Comp Cams XR270HR-10 cam, Accel intake base + ported TPI,
TES headers, Flowmaster catback, MSD ignition, #24 SVO injectors, 1LE aluminum driveshaft. Click here to see pics of my car.
Check out our car club Truspeed
Check out the Bin Archive for all your .bin needs
Yep, there's another summer project. I've got to give that a try. I really don't think it'll be that difficult. Get rid of my current bulbs and get light to the middle...it's never as easy as I think, though.
[This message has been edited by Hummer (edited April 24, 2001).]
those do look really sweet. Luckily I have an extra set of gauges lying around too. I am gonna pull the needles off and see how they look with the stuff scraped off the back. I wonder how good it will look with the macewan gauge overlays? Wouldn't you have to get a different color bulb for it to contrast the white(bluish w/ xenon bulbs) background at night?
------------------
Jay
black 85 Z28, t-tops, 4bbl carb, flowmaster 80 series muffler w/ custom tips (hollowed out cat), edelbrock chrome air cleaner, Infinity 4" 2 way front speakers and Infinity 3 way 6x9s, Alpine CDA-7863 head unit. many more mods planned (holley carb 4160 and edelbrock performer intake coming very soon) Jay's webpage
Did anyone else read the indigloe gauges post awhile back, like a week or 2 ago, lol. I made a big reply about em with pics and everything, lol. But ya, they do look cool, but our pre-90 Camaro's don't have clear needles, they are just white. I am sure you could get a set of needles form another car that might fit (if you have extra gauges, go try it out) But it would still light up the sides of the needles and still look sweet. I think with white face gauges those will look sweet.
__________________ 1999 Camaro Z28: Just a few things
Many toys come and gone
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whitey Almighty
Ah VTEC. All the lag, none of the turbo. It's like waiting for bad sex.
I agree with Blue502 on the aftermarket guage setup.
I have been looking around the past couple of weeks for guages, seeing as how my speedo broke.
Autometer makes a set of guages that you can swap for 99-02 Mustangs or whatever the years are. I would DEFFINITELY like some for the pre-90 Camaros. Seeing as how our guages are backlit. Our needles don't even glow.
Dakota Digital makes a swap for the pre-90 Camaros, but they are digital, not analog guages.
I would REALLY like to have a complete set of autometer guages in my car. Either the Cobalt series or Lunar series. (The cobalt moreso)
i'm just gonna go with the full set of Ultra-Lite's in silver. I'm taking out the faces and guts to the cluster adn then mounting the Auto Meter's to a piece of Carbon Fiber that will replace the Black bezel.
What you guys think about that? Looking for opinions.
(BTW, was going to use Phantoms, but I can't get the 200mph electronic in Phantom.)
__________________ Cody "cy Z28" Young
I bust mine so I can kick yours.
1984 Camaro Z28 < R.I.P.
1989 Formula 350 WS6 Needs a little TLC
Cody2580@hotmail.com
Originally posted by RamAirZ Did anyone else read the indigloe gauges post awhile back, like a week or 2 ago, lol. I made a big reply about em with pics and everything, lol. But ya, they do look cool, but our pre-90 Camaro's don't have clear needles, they are just white. I am sure you could get a set of needles form another car that might fit (if you have extra gauges, go try it out) But it would still light up the sides of the needles and still look sweet. I think with white face gauges those will look sweet.
This post has been brought back to life from back last April of 2001 check the dates.
yea, ye, yea SHUT UP.... sorry, dunno what movie thats from....
but yes, i know i am the sexy.... thank you thank you, i know i am a dumbass, therefore.... ill have results this week...
ive dealt with our gauges before and ive been pondering this for awhile.... therefore, i want my hands dirty.... ill get more LEDs. pics, n sheit, ill tell ya more later. PS most later year birds def are painted, you take a razor blade, and fine grit sandpaper till you can see thru it clearly...
heres my silver.
yes, my alt is dieing.....
__________________ 91 FireBird 305 V-8
Edelbrock Catback, Optima Yellow Top, Tsunami Power Top, Custom Alarm. Fourth Gen Console. Info In Sig Link, Only Four cupholders.
its amazing to see a old post like this come back to life!! there was a question in it tho what wasnt really answered straight in it. from reading the thread, the pre 90 needles are solid, therefore having a bright light behind the needle WOULDN'T make it glow. the 90-92 needles are clear painted on the back. if u look at them (im looking at needles from a 92) the needle goes into the black plastic housing with paint under it. the housing makes like a u shape and the needle is pushed up into it. it makes a "tunel" that the light could shine thru. if u could get a bright light next where the needle connects to the gauge it could work. it would defiently take some work on the cluster housing tho. its just an idea.
to answer some people's questions about whether or not they can get the same effect without buying the kit and simply scraping the needle and replacing the bulb... you might be able to, but i doubt it. I remember reading somewhere a long time ago about these, that there is a small LED ring that you install under the needle itself (w/ a small wire that you have to connect to power) which gives it the glow.
However, if anyone wants to experiment a little bit and prove me wrong, please do so, as I want this kit too but wouldnt mind the same results for cheaper
im pulling the gauges off of another one soon. so itll be under way. if i complete it on this set and showed results would anyone be intrested in purchasing? (im sorry to do/say that, i just ran into schooling troubles to prep for college)
__________________ 91 FireBird 305 V-8
Edelbrock Catback, Optima Yellow Top, Tsunami Power Top, Custom Alarm. Fourth Gen Console. Info In Sig Link, Only Four cupholders.
Originally posted by Spindr130 I am sorry i am confused
will the needles work for a pre 90 camaro.
yes or no would be great
Shaun
NO NO NO
Yeah these are great, unforently we have the ugliest crap set of gauges in pre 90 Camaros. Now I like them, but the way they light up sucks. My cutlass gauges were baklit and looked better and it was an older car!
There has to be an after market product out there...
I was wondering, will clear needles from a 91-92 camaro, or bird, or whatever, fit a pre-90 camaro? Then you could install the kit? Or hell, just make your own...
Holy crap, talk about bringing a post back from the dead! This is over three years old since last post!
Anyways, you would think they'd fit. Maybe the lighting stuff is different, but with a little creativity, you could probably pull it off. I've never tried though, so I'm not positive.
there is this junkyard around here, once I get some time, maybe next week, I'll go..you pay a dollar to enter and its HUGE...I'll definetly find some clear needles, maybe even something for the thirdgen! This is a project I will complete. I think it would look killer with reverse indiglo gauges...its always said around these parts "with enough time and money, anything is possible". If I happen to find some that fit I'll let you guys know.
http://www.sounddomain.com/id/firebretha3
please be kind if you leave some feedback because im only posting the link so you can get to the how to on there but i know some people can be idiots because im an import now.
they are clear needles with paint on the back, i stripped the back and painted it silver on the back because the light needs something to reflect off of to work.