6x9 that fit cleanly under the sail panels?
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6x9 that fit cleanly under the sail panels?
When I bought my car it already had a nice set of pioneer's installed under the sail panels but they push out a little. Does anyone have a nice set of 6x9's installed under your sails that don't poke out?
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Re: 6x9 that fit cleanly under the sail panels?
I have a set of Pioneers in mine that fit pretty well, but I'm working on making room for a pair of 8" subs (one in each panel). Trick is to find .5 cubic feet of air space in there and seal it up. Looks like they will fit, however, they will stick out a bit. I should still be able to cover them up with the trim panel.
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Re: 6x9 that fit cleanly under the sail panels?
I know Polk and Infinity make 6x9s that will fit perfect as I have used both. Make sure you isolate the speakers well, or you get some awful rattling...I know this from experience.
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Re: 6x9 that fit cleanly under the sail panels?
you can also use the round 6 1/2" speakers without issue, just have to make a mounting baffle. It'll open up an even larger selection of speakers to chose from. My last setup was crystal 6 1/2" coaxes and they fit perfectly behind the factory panels.
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Re: 6x9 that fit cleanly under the sail panels?
I have a couple pioneers too...ill check the model later but they fit perfect...well they did til i ripped the sail panels out
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Re: 6x9 that fit cleanly under the sail panels?
I have Alpine 6x9 Type S and they fit without sticking out. However, unless you are going to amp them or use a sub they dont have alot of bass.
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i have an 8" Audiobahn sub in the sailpanel and it only pushes the sailpanel out slightly - hardly noticeable. it was a fairly easy install. just had to trim some metal out of the speaker bracket and a little plastic on the interior panel.
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Re: 6x9 that fit cleanly under the sail panels?
You'd be surprised! Put some dynamat behind the sub and call it a day.
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they sound pretty good. they're not amplified to their max potential though. might be different if i threw a lot of wattage at them. only problem i have so far is the pressure in the sail panel cavity vibrates the jamb vent which is annoying sometimes.
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Re: 6x9 that fit cleanly under the sail panels?
I've got Alpine's front and back, i believe the 6x9's are the SPS-69C3, no problem fitting at all, the sail panel barely touches but it does not really push the sail panel out, and they sound great
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Re: 6x9 that fit cleanly under the sail panels?
Can you post a pic of what you have? Some outer frames of 6x9's differ and that may be what the issue is, but I've also seen a wood backer/insulator used before as well.
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Re: 6x9 that fit cleanly under the sail panels?
Sorry for taking so long to reply to my thread guys....my car is stored at my Grandmothers house and I keep forgetting my camera.
I attached some pictures. I also have a couple other sets of 6x9's I've pulled from cars at the local pull and pay to resell but I think I'll try out their fitment and sound in my car. I have a set of DHD Quadraxials(40$ on ebay) a couple of 300 watt sony xplods and the pioneers pictured, all of which are junk but I got 'em so I might as well use 'em. The sound system rebuild comes after the motor.
I have a feeling some of my cars interior has been rewrapped. I have seen cars with plastic sail panel rigids, but mine is kind of a cardboard type stuff. Anyone know if that came stock? This may also represent why I'm having fitment issues.
I attached some pictures. I also have a couple other sets of 6x9's I've pulled from cars at the local pull and pay to resell but I think I'll try out their fitment and sound in my car. I have a set of DHD Quadraxials(40$ on ebay) a couple of 300 watt sony xplods and the pioneers pictured, all of which are junk but I got 'em so I might as well use 'em. The sound system rebuild comes after the motor.
I have a feeling some of my cars interior has been rewrapped. I have seen cars with plastic sail panel rigids, but mine is kind of a cardboard type stuff. Anyone know if that came stock? This may also represent why I'm having fitment issues.
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Re: 6x9 that fit cleanly under the sail panels?
That's weird, I've never seen that before. The sail panels should be flat on the back and not bulge as it shows. It looks like it was cut (or pushed out) in that area or something. So that piece in the center of the triangle must stick out quite a bit then? Whats the back of the sail panel look like?
They used cardboard with metal clips early on and plastic in the later years. I don't know when they made the change though.
They used cardboard with metal clips early on and plastic in the later years. I don't know when they made the change though.
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Re: 6x9 that fit cleanly under the sail panels?
The sounds right then because I have been looking at 90-92 cars here lately and they have all been plastic. But I know the sails have been recovered because they have 2 sided sticky tape at the top and no hole for a hanger screw.
I meant to take a picture of it but if you look from the side you wouldn't think it would push on the panel. However if you push on the bubble its definately the speaker. I'll do some test fits on Monday, maybe my car is awkward =P
I meant to take a picture of it but if you look from the side you wouldn't think it would push on the panel. However if you push on the bubble its definately the speaker. I'll do some test fits on Monday, maybe my car is awkward =P
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Re: 6x9 that fit cleanly under the sail panels?
Maybe the cardboard is broken and sticks out in the places where it's no longer connected. If you can, try to get the newer plastic ones and recover them. If it were me I might see if you can remove or trim the part of the speaker that sticks out if you can (or is that a really small speaker? lol). You should be able to run a straight edge across the plastic panel opening to see where it sticks out farther than the rest.
I believe both versions used staples and glue to attach the fabric to the backing.
I believe both versions used staples and glue to attach the fabric to the backing.
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Re: 6x9 that fit cleanly under the sail panels?
Thats not a bad idea. I may attempt doing that as well, I hadn't thought to look but chances are good that trim piece is removable so I'll see if it gives me enough room.
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to the OP i know that polks and infinity's will fit in there perfectly with no issues
and ive got plastic sails in my 89 that are covered and have a hanger screw ive never seen them attached with double sided tape before
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Re: 6x9 that fit cleanly under the sail panels?
Guess these are just the speakers to avoid if you own a third gen
But the sails are pretty much stuck like that as well so I guess I'm in the market for some new ones....
But the sails are pretty much stuck like that as well so I guess I'm in the market for some new ones....
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Re: 6x9 that fit cleanly under the sail panels?
I have a set of Rockford Fosgate Prime 6x9's and they fit perfect, sound awesome too, good bass for a 6x9 and great highs.
As for your sail panels it looks like someone had speakers that stuck out even farther and they forced the panels on and broke them. I would look around and try and get a set of the later plastic backed panels.
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As for your sail panels it looks like someone had speakers that stuck out even farther and they forced the panels on and broke them. I would look around and try and get a set of the later plastic backed panels.
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Re: 6x9 that fit cleanly under the sail panels?
I have Alpine Type-R's...they are perfect!
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Re: 6x9 that fit cleanly under the sail panels?
i have sony xplod 3 way speakers in mine, they fit perfect, no pushing on the panels at all.
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Re: 6x9 that fit cleanly under the sail panels?
Memphis reference series in all four corners, JL w3 10s in the back The dash speaker on the drivers side hit the gauges but not the pad...No worries though its just a little angled now.
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I have Pioneer Premier 3 ways that fit nicely.
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Reading through the thread some more. I use 2 800w 10" Kicker free air subs and a 1500w Alpine V12 for bass. The four front speakers are powered by a 400w Alpine 4 channel amp with 2 seperate crossovers. I high pass the 6x9s in the B pillars at 80hz and the 3"/dome tweeter component dash speakers at 100hz with caps on the dash speaks. This is a very loud, very clean sound system with bright crisp highs and back pounding bass. The Premier 6x9s have a decent bass cone but excellent midrange and tweeters.
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Dan -
on the 6-1/2 in the sail panel - don't you think the component type of speaker would be best versus just the regular coaxial?
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on the 6-1/2 in the sail panel - don't you think the component type of speaker would be best versus just the regular coaxial?
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Re: 6x9 that fit cleanly under the sail panels?
technically yes. however, if you're trying to accurately trying to reproduce music, you really dont want any sound coming from behind you. rear speakers are meant as "fill" and usually more for the benefit of rear passengers, not the driver. in this aspect, you're best just going with a coax speaker and spending the difference in building up a better front stage (components in the kicks/door, amp to power 'em, and proper processing power to tweak em).
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Dan -
good advice - I am going to take it and use the 6-1/2 coax in sail panels. I have 82 Berlinetta. I would like to put another pair of 6-1/2 in the door panels? I have pioneer 4 x 60 amp. then i could run all 4 from the amp. I could run the dash off the head unit or just disconnect it since I think the 4 qty 6-1/2 would be sufficient? what are your thoughts?
good advice - I am going to take it and use the 6-1/2 coax in sail panels. I have 82 Berlinetta. I would like to put another pair of 6-1/2 in the door panels? I have pioneer 4 x 60 amp. then i could run all 4 from the amp. I could run the dash off the head unit or just disconnect it since I think the 4 qty 6-1/2 would be sufficient? what are your thoughts?
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keep it simple - if you're going to put speakers in the door, don't use dash speakers. they'll only serve to mess with the sound and cause more of a headache when you're trying to balance levels.
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I have 2 Boston Acoustic 6x9's - perfect
Had 2 Xplod's - perfect
Had 2 Xplod's - perfect
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Re: 6x9 that fit cleanly under the sail panels?
Did you guys have any problem hooking up the speakers? I was looking at Curtchfield and was thinking about buying two GM harnesses. Do those make the swap out easy? I'm not too tech savy so I'm not untirely sure how to switch the wires...
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Yoseph -
I am also getting my speakers from crutchfield - I decided to disconnect the dash speakers and redirect those wires to put speakers in the doors. that way I can use 4qty 6-1/2 speakers total - 2 in the doors and 2 in the sail panels, all run off a 4 channel amp, 60 watts x 4. I am going to get the JL Audio C2-600X 6-1/2 speakers. Crutchfield said they would fit both the doors and the sail panels. they checked the door depth and the sail panel depth. they are also giving me a speaker bracket to mount the sail panel speakers in so they will fit the existing 6 x 9 hole.
also getting the harness kits, makes things easy. they are very good and will walk you through what you need to make everything work.
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I am also getting my speakers from crutchfield - I decided to disconnect the dash speakers and redirect those wires to put speakers in the doors. that way I can use 4qty 6-1/2 speakers total - 2 in the doors and 2 in the sail panels, all run off a 4 channel amp, 60 watts x 4. I am going to get the JL Audio C2-600X 6-1/2 speakers. Crutchfield said they would fit both the doors and the sail panels. they checked the door depth and the sail panel depth. they are also giving me a speaker bracket to mount the sail panel speakers in so they will fit the existing 6 x 9 hole.
also getting the harness kits, makes things easy. they are very good and will walk you through what you need to make everything work.
take care
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Re: 6x9 that fit cleanly under the sail panels?
Yoseph -
I am also getting my speakers from crutchfield - I decided to disconnect the dash speakers and redirect those wires to put speakers in the doors. that way I can use 4qty 6-1/2 speakers total - 2 in the doors and 2 in the sail panels, all run off a 4 channel amp, 60 watts x 4. I am going to get the JL Audio C2-600X 6-1/2 speakers. Crutchfield said they would fit both the doors and the sail panels. they checked the door depth and the sail panel depth. they are also giving me a speaker bracket to mount the sail panel speakers in so they will fit the existing 6 x 9 hole.
also getting the harness kits, makes things easy. they are very good and will walk you through what you need to make everything work.
take care
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I am also getting my speakers from crutchfield - I decided to disconnect the dash speakers and redirect those wires to put speakers in the doors. that way I can use 4qty 6-1/2 speakers total - 2 in the doors and 2 in the sail panels, all run off a 4 channel amp, 60 watts x 4. I am going to get the JL Audio C2-600X 6-1/2 speakers. Crutchfield said they would fit both the doors and the sail panels. they checked the door depth and the sail panel depth. they are also giving me a speaker bracket to mount the sail panel speakers in so they will fit the existing 6 x 9 hole.
also getting the harness kits, makes things easy. they are very good and will walk you through what you need to make everything work.
take care
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Re: 6x9 that fit cleanly under the sail panels?
those adapters are a waste of money, clip the factory connecter and butt connect the speaker wires to the appropriate wire.
i believe the standing rule with gm is the lighter of the two in front is positive, and in the back the darker of the two is positive, i never ever ever use those stupid harnesses, theyre just a waste and i do this for a living lol
i believe the standing rule with gm is the lighter of the two in front is positive, and in the back the darker of the two is positive, i never ever ever use those stupid harnesses, theyre just a waste and i do this for a living lol
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Re: 6x9 that fit cleanly under the sail panels?
You almost got that right. The lighter colored one is Positive and the darker is the Negative.
those adapters are a waste of money, clip the factory connecter and butt connect the speaker wires to the appropriate wire.
i believe the standing rule with gm is the lighter of the two in front is positive, and in the back the darker of the two is positive, i never ever ever use those stupid harnesses, theyre just a waste and i do this for a living lol
i believe the standing rule with gm is the lighter of the two in front is positive, and in the back the darker of the two is positive, i never ever ever use those stupid harnesses, theyre just a waste and i do this for a living lol
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Re: 6x9 that fit cleanly under the sail panels?
those adapters are a waste of money, clip the factory connecter and butt connect the speaker wires to the appropriate wire.
i believe the standing rule with gm is the lighter of the two in front is positive, and in the back the darker of the two is positive, i never ever ever use those stupid harnesses, theyre just a waste and i do this for a living lol
i believe the standing rule with gm is the lighter of the two in front is positive, and in the back the darker of the two is positive, i never ever ever use those stupid harnesses, theyre just a waste and i do this for a living lol
http://www.installdr.com/Harnesses/GM-Wiring.pdf
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I've always ays used the opposing ones and I've always gotten them in phase every time, then again I've only worked on newer gm's, like 02 and up silverados mostly, maybe they swapped it I dunno I just ran my own wires for my speakers since they run to my amp lol
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Re: 6x9 that fit cleanly under the sail panels?
As long as you're consistent, you'll stay in phase and the speakers should still sound good. Oh, my radio is one of those 2002 and up truck radios, and for me, the dark wire of the pair is positive. Just stay consistent.
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