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Old 12-01-2006, 01:14 PM
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Double fire vs Single Fire, etc

Few questions:

When using tuner pro, there are 2 injector constants, double fire and single fire. Whats the difference?

Also, is it possible with the auto prom to read a stock bin file from the factory ECM? what I mean is can I pull the chip off of that strip in the ECM and read it, just like I would a 27sf512 chip?

I know it is very common to use an 89 bin and definition, and eliminate the cold start and all...but how would you go about tuning an 88 ecm without wanting to burn an 89?
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Set both injector constants to the same number, always.

Yes, the AutoProm can read the stock chip. If you'd like to do so without pulling the chip from the calpak, you'll need a calpak adapter. Moates sells them (www.moates.net).

Your last question is very, very ambiguous. You'll need to be much more specific than "how would you go about tuning an 88 ECM."
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Originally Posted by IROCZ28dan
I know it is very common to use an 89 bin and definition, and eliminate the cold start and all...but how would you go about tuning an 88 ecm without wanting to burn an 89?
If you are wanting to get rid of the cold start injector, then you have to use the 89 ($6E) bin. I would really suggest using the $6E bin anyway, more options, and it's the upgrade to the $32 and $32B codes.
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Originally Posted by Mangus
Set both injector constants to the same number, always.

Yes, the AutoProm can read the stock chip. If you'd like to do so without pulling the chip from the calpak, you'll need a calpak adapter. Moates sells them (www.moates.net).

Your last question is very, very ambiguous. You'll need to be much more specific than "how would you go about tuning an 88 ECM."
could you explain to me what each is though?

im sorry about the vague question.

I dont mean what do I set every value at. What I mean is, after reading say an 88 305 TPI 5 speed bin file like you said I can, what definition file would I use to go along with it, the 32 or 32B? I have a friend who wants to work off of this instead of upgrading to the 6E. He would like to retain his cold start and everything.

I have this adapter:
http://www.moates.net/product_info.p...products_id=32

along with the one with the ZIF.

If that is what youre talking about, how can I read a stock bin from that?

This is just all very overwhelming to start off. In my own vehicle I have a modified bin from what started as the ARAP. However, the person who tuned it for me (which I cant seem to get in touch with) was the one who modified it, and I pretty much watched and tried to retain everything he was doing. Theres still a lot I am unsure of in the program. Besides searching on here, any suggestions on how to find out what each constant, flag, and table means exactly?
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Originally Posted by IROCZ28dan
could you explain to me what each is though?

im sorry about the vague question.

I dont mean what do I set every value at. What I mean is, after reading say an 88 305 TPI 5 speed bin file like you said I can, what definition file would I use to go along with it, the 32 or 32B? I have a friend who wants to work off of this instead of upgrading to the 6E. He would like to retain his cold start and everything.

I have this adapter:
http://www.moates.net/product_info.p...products_id=32

along with the one with the ZIF.

If that is what youre talking about, how can I read a stock bin from that?

This is just all very overwhelming to start off. In my own vehicle I have a modified bin from what started as the ARAP. However, the person who tuned it for me (which I cant seem to get in touch with) was the one who modified it, and I pretty much watched and tried to retain everything he was doing. Theres still a lot I am unsure of in the program. Besides searching on here, any suggestions on how to find out what each constant, flag, and table means exactly?
Use the $32B file.

The only way to learn what they do is to load up the ecm file into TunerPro (or whatever you're using) and read them. They become easier when you start looing at them. If you can't figure it out, search TGO and then post if you still can't find an answer.

Things like "Disable EGR if X < MAT" becomes easier with time. This one means don't enable the EGR until X (the setting) is less than the Manifold Air Temperature sensor.

Good luck.
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Thanks for the help, although I already know those basics as far as that goes...its the trickier ones when you look at it that dont have such a blunt explanation that confuse me.

As far as EGR goes I dont have it anyways...I avoid the code by changing the duty cycle to 0 across the table.
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