im looking on moates here and see all this cool new stuff for holding multiple chips. id really like to have 2 separate tunes on the fly, an open headers tune and closed exhaust tune for my cutouts(tends to run leaner with open headers) plus it would be cool to switch from a choppy n/a sounding idle to a surging idle on the fly... atleast i think lol. but im using an emulator. how could i achieve this? my setup is a 7427 ecm with a G4 adapter and an ostrich 2.0 emulator. could i hook the emulator up as one of the chips and then have to burn chips for the others?

anyone out there using these new products from moates? i guess nobody familiar with the stuff?

You should be using a G1/G3/GP1/GP3 memcal adaptor with your ECM, not the G4.

The only way that I know of to switch between bins with an Ostrich 2.0 is to load a new bin through the USB. Really, why wouldn't you do it that?

If you want to have some sort of switch mounted on the dash you will need a G3/GP3 and 29F040 EEPROM, to load load multiple bins to, then using a remote switch, switch between the loaded bins.

http://www.moates.net/documentation....entation_id=11

Will the emulator emulate the 29F040? That would allow one to still use the emulator and be able to switch on the fly withe the G3.

One thing I was asking Mark about with TP V5 is if buttons could be added to the dash for quick commands, but if the button functionality was completely definable in the definition, could they also be made to do a dump to the emulator on the fly? The idea is that one wants to minimize key strokes required to switch bins. While there has never been any intention of using the TP V5 while driving, one would not want to have a Ford pull up next to them at a light and get smoked because your trying to change bins.

Somewhere I read on this site that the failure rate is high when swapping bins with engine running. I tried a search but could not find comment. Has anyone had success?

i want to say im using the g4, mines a 95 with the blue box on top of the chip. it would have to be the g4, iv got the stock chip as well as the emulator plugged in, the g4 is the only adapter that requires you to put the stock chip in place.

i want aware you could make the emulator emulate different chips, i thought it emualted one, thats why you have to run an adapter?

No, G4 is not the only one that requires the original MEMCAL to be retained.

G4 is for OBD 1.5 ECMs, that would be found in Grand Prixs and similar cars, as per the description on moates.net. http://www.moates.net/product_info.p...roducts_id=126

G1, is used in the '7730, '7749, '7727, '7427 and similar ECMs.
GP1 is a G1 with more parts added to the package.
G3 is similar to G1, but has switching capabilities and be be used with a larger EEPROM, to support multiple bins.
GP3 is a G3 with more parts in the package.

The need for these adaptors is because it makes it easy for us the end user to retain the LHM and CALPAK side of the MEMCAL, and use a new EEPROM or emulator without modifying the MEMCAL itself.

The Ostrich can emulate chips sizes up to 4 megabit, the size of a 29F040.

But I'm not sure the Emulator would be compatible with the way the switchers change positions on the EEPROM. Craig would be the best person to answer this.

your right, iv got the g1, good call. i was looking at it wrong.

i fell pretty stupid here, i was under the influence that they had an adapter that heald a few desperate chips that you could switch off to, your saying the idea is to fit a huge chip that has enough memory to hold multiple tunes?

Yes, you stack several different bins inside of one chip. I have a G3 with 8 different bins stacked. The adaptor switches the extra address lines that are not tied to the ECM. The ECM has no idea that you have changed the most significant bit of the address, so it just reads as it normally would, but is actually reading a different section of the the memory, because you've changed the address lines. In theory, an emulator should be able to save data to any part of the memory, so one should be able to plug into a G3. I doubt the emulator knows that is it talking to a GM ECM. You are just putting data into memory. How you stack the data is up to TunerPro.

hmm, so id kind of have to try it and see... or call moates. i guess nobodys done this, probably because you can change tunes so easy with an emulator lol. i just thought it would be cool to switch on the fly without my laptop.

so the emulator should be cap[able, its a matter of weather the program(tunerpro rt) will support it?

No, it's a matter of whether it will damage the Ostrich or not.

Tuner Pro definatly supports stacking bins, that's not an issue.

o, ok. never been through those functions on tunerpro. i guess that would be what the bin stacker/splitter is for. my bins are 32kb, if my emualtor can emulate up to 4mb, thats a huge amount of tunes i can hold lol, so yea, i understand it better now. its a matter of weather the emulator can do it or not.

so where do i go from here, pretty much give moates a call and see what he can tell me.