Morit

Yeah, he is just scared after you showed at his house and after realising that you are taking him to court and hes trying to denial everything hoping that nothing more will happen and you will pass on that/ forget it... Please, do not do it... I hope we'll ruin his life...

Steve86TA

iTrader: (57)

LOL this guy is to much. If the "person" who hacked into 4 or 5 car sites,your paypal acct,your multiple email accts,and showed up at YOUR address at the precise time as the mail man(all within 1 day BTW) took this money than I must say he deserves it.If he went through all that trouble.Man now that is the definition of internet crime. Some of us were born at night....but not last night.I am sure there is room at the baltimore city detention center.There gonna love you LOL..02

QuickStyle

i also forgot to mention that when one of the guys you ripped off called your mom or aunts house which ever one is located on smallwood street... he asked for george, she said hold on one second, and next thing you know you are on the phone a LandLine mind you, saying that the parts were shipped out already. so that right there proves that you were not "out of the state" as you said you were and in fact it was you that was selling the parts. that right there is enough info for us thirdgener's to convict you, maybe not a court though. and if you try to say that it wasn't you (come on really?) then why was this scammer guy in your house just kickin' it with your mom/aunt ?

so anyday now you can just refund our money, and this does not have to go any further, the ***** in your hands now.

well put. and his grammar is identical to that of the "scammers"

jbpnumber03

iTrader: (4)

this guy is lying, I just wish he would refund us all our money. He is caught, he knows it. Whatever happened, I know I sent him 1300 for parts he never even had, and sent it to his paypal account. can we say paper trail?

1991 Formula

like i said please file it all im waiting to go to court im not going to lose anything

Steve86TA

iTrader: (57)

ATTENTION!!! Hey guys it has been brought to my attention that George has reffered to being "friends" with one of the MODS on here.And throwing my name around on the phone like he knows me.The only two mods local around here are ES87IROC and myself.And I can ASSURE YOU 100% that neither ES87IROC nor myself have never met/talked to, or would have anything to do with a POS like this.

And George when you read this please dont put my name anywhere near your scam. I am not personally involved yet,but if you want me to be.....

lumij3

BTW -- the mo's have a number which can be tracked directly to the bank where it was cashed and the signature on the back of the check so it will be interesting to see if that signature matches the one on the receipt from the post office. Second, when you go to cash a check most banks require id to do so and guess what you POS -- all banks have video cameras now to record all transactions. And if you went to a third person to cash the check (which wouldn't surprise me given what a wimp you are!) that person is also in trouble and i hope (well not really) that he isn't your dealer because he is now part of this as well. And just to make your christmas even merrier -- my brother in law is a lawyer in the state of MD (who is reading all of your crap with me right now) and tells me that everything you're saying about this only being a civil matter is a lie! you keep thinking this is only about the money but you used the mail to commit this scam and that is, in any state, a federal, criminal offense, which i for one am actively pursuing. On the bright side, someone in prison in MD is going to have a very Happy 2008 with you as his b****.

kewl_blades

iTrader: (3)

I wasn't ripped of by this turd simply because I asked too many questions. BUT if anyone local to him needs any reimbursements for gas and a molotov cocktail, I will be happy to pay for your time and efforts. I am VERY serious. It's high time that these scammers know NOT to **** with people. And at Christmas TIME???!!!??? ARE YOU SERIOUS??? You have no soul and nobody will have any remorse for ANYTHING that happens to you!
I am currently dealing with a scam artist here in Texas. I know where he lives, works, and what he drives. I gave him a deadline to pay me back. Once that deadline passes and I don't get my money....well, let's just say he won't be using my money for something he WANTS.

88 350 tpi formula

iTrader: (9)

Take him to court. file a report with the police!!!!! several thousand dollars will land him in jail for more than a couple days with a federal crime on his record. which means this scum bag will have a hard time getting a job with a major theft record. then he will have to pay restitution (sp?) or he keeps going back to the slammer to get slammed if you know what I mean

QuickStyle

that statement right there confirms that you are admitting guilt with hopes of getting away with what you have done, and please learn to use proper punctuation and grammar, we don't want to read your post 10 times before it makes sense.

file all your complaints at the 3 links below, i already have, the more people that do it, the faster this will get over.

https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/f...Complaint.aspx
http://www.ic3.gov/
http://www.usa.gov/Citizen/Topics/Internet_Fraud.shtml

Street Lethal

iTrader: (16)

People, as a professional banker, I can assure you that whoever paid overnight with a money order, you have absolutely nothing to worry about. Contact the vendor in which the money order was purchased, provide the date, and amount, in which the money order was purchased for (this is if you lost your receipt, of course), and first have them determine if the money order was presented for payment through their clearing house....

If it was cleared, find out which bank (or vendor) it was deposited in, and/or cashed through. Contact the bank/vendor, explain the fraudelent activity, and have THEM go after the guilty party. Trust me, a FEDERAL OFFENSE is no joke, and they will catch him within a matter of days. If the money order was not presented for payment yet, which is still very possible, even if he was able to cash it already, have the money order flagged as lost, and stopped immediately. Either way, the VENDOR will eventually nab him. The system works my friends, just know how to use it....

-Rob

fordsuks91

iTrader: (2)

Street lethals right, i work in the legal system and frauds a big thing now a days thats taken very seriously. Theres a ton of ways to protect yourself from scans and punish people who try and screw people.

Street Lethal

iTrader: (16)

Exactly!

What's more, is that if there was more than one party here who has paid w/money orders to this person, the idea is to go after him collectively. This will only solidify the case against him even moreso. Sadly, this type of fraud happens every single minute, and for much larger amounts to boot. Monetary instruments have developed very key ways in catching party's behind such fraudelent activity, believe me, especially since the advent of the Patriots Act. Also, vendor's don't want bad press, and they will do everything to avoid it. Believe me, they will help you in making things right....

Kat

iTrader: (4)

That is the idea of trying to get everyone together and go after him. I do not mind doing the leg work for everyone as long as they send me their info in reguarding this. He seems to think since he lives in maryland, its MD state crime. Well since it is over state lines, done through the mail system and done over the internet, it HAS become federal.

Which means, jail time in the federal prison, perm. record (you'll never get a chance to jhave a decent job at all!), once you get out of jail, your wages will be garnished for the debt that is owed, and will go against your credit report so you will be unable to do anything worth while. The only down fall to that is you will become more of a drain to society than you already are George. Be a man and send people their money back in which you took from them.

As for the bank statements, who cares. Any idiot can go to a check cashing place with an ID and have the MO cashed.

Street Lethal

iTrader: (16)

Kat, Check Cashing vendor's must adhere to Federal Reserve regulations, and all consumer money transacted through such avenues is protected through the OCC (Office of the Comptroller of the Currency). Check Cashing vendor's take more of a risk than the average commercial, and/or savings bank, which is why they assess a pretty substantial fee. Nevertheless, they are still held accountable when fraudelent activity comes into play, as it is the responsibility of all vendor's to comply with our monetary system(s). Bank statements become more than relevant in such a matter....

MartinD

iTrader: (1)

Nothing is right as far as money because this clown has spent that money and im sure is a broke joke now.But prison is a reality you need to get use to you scammer loser.

RandyJ75

Hey everyone, I live in Maryland, work in Aberdeen, and Baltimores not to far from my home, let me know if I can be of any help.

I hate people like this...

Formula350Scott

iTrader: (3)

I hope you all get your money back. It sure sucks when stuff like this happens because right now your all out the money and parts for who knows how long. Hopefully its just an open/shut case and you get refunds fast. I hope he gets some time for this stunt.

426 Wedge

I hope Murphy's Law does him over about 5 times. I HATE people like this and I believe he will get what he deserves. Some people just can't lead a clean life anymore.

vipershark11

iTrader: (6)

this guy is a real scumbag dont let him get away with this. you guys are doing great so far just keep it up and everyone involved do something and make this a$$hole pay. maybe even a little extra for all your troubles if you know what i mean goodluck to you all get some justice.

MartinD

iTrader: (1)

right back to the top for good measure

88 350 tpi formula

iTrader: (9)

please post up the news section when he is charged and sent to become some ones play hole. we can make it a sticky in the feedback board.

KillerZ302

iTrader: (4)

Wow, you guys are awesome. You even posted pics of the guy. He is soo Fu@#$D !!! You know he cant sleep at night thinking about the day he lands in prison due to a Federal Crime. Like I said before, he does not know the trouble he gas gotten himself into.

This guy will be BUBBA's bitch in prison and they will always take his cornbread. Good luck George. Maybe they will use some lube before they rape you.

Guys keep up the good team work. Everyone unite which makes you stronger. Keep us posted.

keith2717

Yea, Murphy's Law is named Marcus in cell Block 5.
This guy is going to jail without a dout. A family member of mine was beat
for $1500. for work that wasent performed and it seemed to happened to
other people. The money limit is a Felony so as long as you guys file this piece of crap is going to jail. The judge will see thru your chump a$$ story
and put you behind bars so your moomy can come visit your busted a$$.
GOOD LUCK to all of you, keep up the fight and it sucks this happened and around the holidays. (sorry for the run on sentence).
SMOKE HIS BUT!!!!!!!!

MikeH

iTrader: (10)

What a tool.....fu&&ing drug addicts!! Put his *** in jail!!

MartinD

iTrader: (1)

Cant the ADMINS kick in on THIS matter to help out?Just asking

kewl_blades

iTrader: (3)

All they can do is give the IP address of this asshat and cooperate with the investigation and communicate with the other site admins which he tried to scam other people.

keith2717

I say he's getting 3 to 5 years and wil have to pay fines and restitution.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?

Morit

I think stop talking crap and lets do something...

KillerZ302

iTrader: (4)

Hey guys, did he pm any of you ?? He pm'ed me, I guess I pissed him off and worried him at the same time. Anyway, here is his pm to me.


This is him

hey

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just a small bit of info for ya i sleep very well at night see if the paypal for 1300 get reversed its not a major crim in a small claim sorry then i show the judge that the MO were returned non payable so yea gotta love Md
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1991 Trans Am GTA being restored

Morit

Good. He just admit that he made a crime.

jbpnumber03

iTrader: (4)

did you send him 1300 through paypal also?

kewl_blades

iTrader: (3)

If everyone got their money back, he still commited a crime. Just because there is no "victim" here, he still has to answer for his criminal act. Let's see if he sleeps well after a few months in jail.

Post up if you got your money back thru pay-pal or your USPS money order. You still have the option thru USPS and thru the state of MD to prosecute his crimes and you can file for restitution. First contact the Attorney General or District Attorneys Office in his state/city/county and see what your options are. Be sure to tell them there are other people he tried to con and not just you.

jbpnumber03

iTrader: (4)

if he gives me my money back I won't prosecute anything

QuickStyle

im confused on what he is trying to say. is he saying that hes going to refund everyone's money that paid paypal, but not peoples money orders?

if he refunds my money and what it cost me to overnight the money order i wont prosecute either, i just want my money back. $895 is what i need. thanks.

kewl_blades

iTrader: (3)

and that is why he doesn't care if you all get your money back..because none of you will follow thru with any of this. He just got away with your money.

QuickStyle

everythings already been follwed thru. i think everyone has already filed all the reports that they can, its already in the system. if he sends me my money back i will be happy, and if i get a call from someone saying they need info on what had happened, i will tell them exactly what happened. isn't the point of everything to get our money back? if he sends everyone their money back theres no reason to follow thru anymore because he will just claim that he no longer had the parts available and he gets off scott free anyway.

lumij3

Has anyone gone to the post office and asked about what to do to get your money back if the MO wasn't cashed?

lumij3

If you have any info about my Q? I would prefer if you send me a PM. Thanks.
LJ

mrtater99

iTrader: (1)

If he refunds the money, with or without the overnite cost, etc.. None of you have a case weather you want to go after him or not. Been through this with my pos neighbor stealing my pkgs. Post office made him pay for them and then dropped the case. They aren't going to waste thier time on small stuff like this, as long as he pays, that is. If he doesn't pay, he'll be in long enough to put new meaning to "Port and polish"

mrtater

jbpnumber03

iTrader: (4)

dude... what the hell are you talking about? who are you anyways? those are some pretty serious comments from an outside observer.

kewl_blades

iTrader: (3)

Does that make it easier for you, dude?

Morit

So he robbed you from your money, and if you get it back becouse he got scared of you all you will not do anything?
And what if you get your money back, but some other guy/ guys wont get it, you will still not prosecute him, making less chances to get the other guys money them back..?
Lol, thats lame of you...

maitlandtron

Wether you get your money back or not, you should all prosecute. Think about it, he WILL try this again. You want some other people getting scammed by this piece of ****. It must feel horrible to dish out $1300 and get nothing for it. I would hate for another group of people to go through the same thing.

QuickStyle

there will be nothing to prosecute for if he refunds all the money. even a court appointed lawyer on his first day of work will get his case thrown out on a simple matter of a misunderstanding. so if he were smart he would just refund everyones money.

im not saying that if i was to get my money back and another guy doesnt that i would just not care, i would help out in the case until EVERYONE got their money back, im sure thats how all of us are thinking right now.

gkrynick22

iTrader: (1)

I don't think that is true. Even if he does give the money back he knowingly and willingly sold products (he had two and sold six)he did not have. That is a crime. If you guys insist they go after him then they have to. Even if he does get off at least you can make it enough of a pain in the azz so he doesn't want to try this agian. Make him use his time and $$$ to try to wiggle out of this. If you let him off with nothing then he simply learned that that method of scamming people doesn't work and try a different way to do it. If someone stole your car and you filed a police report. Then the guy gives it back a couple of weeks later and says "oops". Would you drop the charges then? Hell no you'ld send his azz to jail, this should be no different. I realize I really have no connection with this because I didn't get ripped off(thank god it was just before Christmas or he would probably have my $$$ too), but I really hate when people pull this. Teach this guy a lesson!

mrtater99

iTrader: (1)

If he gives the money back to everyone than there is no case to go after. A first day lawyer, or any court will not touch the case, as long as he gives all the money back. Even if he did go to court, it would be at our expense for a public defender, and still get thrown out. The only way you will have a case is if he doesn't give all the money back.

mrtater

Street Lethal

iTrader: (16)

A lot of you guys are missing the bigger picture though. It doesn't matter if he gives the money back or not, as once a suit is filed, it stains the individual for the rest of they're lives. Whether you win, or lose, shouldn't really matter anymore. As a US citizen, the wronged parties here have the right to FILE charges (win money, lose money, doesn't matter, it still should be filed regardless), in addition, the option to SUE the individual personally. It needs to be done collectively. A judge simply won't "dismiss" the charge, they can simply order the debt not to be paid. He can still be found guilty though, and that's something in today's world that NOBODY wants to live with. Try getting a job with a record on file, try applying for a loan with a record on file. The Patriots Act changed everything, as anyone (and I mean ANYONE) has the right to demand a FULL background check on an individual. It shouldn't be about the money anymore guys, do the right thing here. The system works gentleman, one way or the other, it works, and justice will be served....



-Rob

gkrynick22

iTrader: (1)

Also if everybody pushes the issue he still should face charges of fraud. Whether he gives all the money back he still committed a crime. Sure the people who recieved the money back won't have grounds for a suit anymore, however with a little pressure he should still be prosecuted for mail fraud. Kind of like if you steal a car and you get caught you go to jail whether you bring it back or not.

mrtater99

iTrader: (1)

<<<The system works gentleman, one way or the other, it works, and justice will be served....>>>

Boy do you need a reality check. Your talking as though he gives a sh@$ about his reputation. Don't forget that we are talking about someone that doesn't care one bit..If he did he would never let himself get in this situation in the first place. The cost of a lawsuit, which by the way would be thrown out if he already gave the money back, will far exceed the money lost. Are you willing to pay the thousands of dollars for a worthless lawsuit when in the courts eyes, there has been no "REAL" crime done. After all if he gives the money back what crime has he commited, that he can't write off as a missunderstanding or error in judgement. By the way, if your worried about this stuff being said, tipping him off, don't worry about it. Scum like him already knows it and probably already been through it. We have a generation of adults now that have never had to take responisbility for anything, and worse yet, know just how to slip through the cracks of "JUSTICE".. As far as staining his record goes, any company that is willing to spend the money for background checks and such, aren't looking for someone with his skill level. Most of the companies that are looking for someone of his qualifications, won't look further than his last job, if that. He's sitting back laughing at you guys for sounding like a bunch of coffee shop lawyers, and vigil-antis. The court system doesn't work as great as you might think. The only hope you have of putting him behind bars, is if he doesn't give the money back. In the mean time, whats say we start a fund for attorney fees for this battle that all of you are pushing these guys that did get ripped off to go after. Everyone is pushing for "justice". Are you willing to help pay for it?

mrtater

mrtater