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Old 10-12-2023, 11:26 AM
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Will this Clear stock Hood?

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Re: Will this Clear stock Hood?

Not likely.
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Re: Will this Clear stock Hood?

I'd say no. But that's what cowl induction hoods are for.
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I have a trans am and it probably wouldn't fit, or it would be really close. Camaros have a little more room. You're totally on the line, you may need a different air filter. But the engine will fit nicely and bring joy for years to come! A drop base filter may be all you need.

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I agree that it'll be close.
​​​​​​My 86 IROC with the stock hood had the slightest of contact with a dual plane intake and dropped base air filter case. The RPM Air Gap is taller than what looks to be a traditional Performer intake so you may gain a few fractions there.
​​​​​​Speaking of dropped bases, they're not all created equally. There's a version from GM that's extreme. I can probably dig up a part number.

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Re: Will this Clear stock Hood?

Thanks everyone

Anyone can tell what carb is on that engine?
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Holley 750 cfm Carburetor - Manual Choke

https://blueprintengines.com/product...or-bp38318ctc1
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Re: Will this Clear stock Hood?

Or your fully dressed version (which has a less detailed description of the parts involved).

https://blueprintengines.com/product...pr_seq=uniform
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Re: Will this Clear stock Hood?

Thank you, yes I am going with fully dressed version.

And this radiator, have seen some good reviews here: Dewitts 1.25 tube



Any other parts I need to order to go with this swap?
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Re: Will this Clear stock Hood?

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And this radiator, have seen some good reviews here: Dewitts 1.25 tube

Any other parts I need to order to go with this swap?
A couple things come to mind although I know there are details that others might chime in about.
The rad: inlet and outlet sizes? I ask because the Griffin rad I have has upsized fittings. That is 1-1/2" top and 1-3/4" bottom (rather than the factory 1-1/4" and 1-1/2") so that necessitated a search for hoses that would work
The heads are indicated as having a 1/2" raised exhaust port. You'll want to be sure your headers will accomodate that.
No mention of whether the flexplate or flywheel is included. The (weighted) harmonic damper is included but nothing is said of the backend. It's also a weighted unit so you'll have to investigate that.
You'll need a compatible starter.
There are a number of other items too but it depends on what you're starting with. Alternator, power steering, pulleys and belts, fuel pump and all of the associated bracketry.

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Re: Will this Clear stock Hood?

Thanks,

What headers would be best to go with it?
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Re: Will this Clear stock Hood?

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What headers would be best to go with it?
Lookup how many brands of headers there are and that’s how many different answers you’ll get.

You can still buy shorties from several brands that are 3rd gen specific, but if you want longtubes you’ll have to buy a set for a 2nd gen and make them work.
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You may be able to get some headers from dyno don. They're awesome.
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SBC same as any other. Performer intake and drop base air cleaner and you will be good.
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Re: Will this Clear stock Hood?

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...And this radiator, have seen some good reviews here: Dewitts 1.25 tube...
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The rad: inlet and outlet sizes? I ask because the Griffin rad I have has upsized fittings. That is 1-1/2" top and 1-3/4" bottom (rather than the factory 1-1/4" and 1-1/2") so that necessitated a search for hoses that would work
That DeWitts unit is a solid quality radiator. I bought & installed one earlier this year. The inlet/outlet sizes are the stock sizes so you won't have any issues with hose fitment. One thing you need to be aware of though is fan fitment. With the 1 1/4 tubes, the thickness of the radiator is noticeably larger than the stock radiator. With a much thicker radiator you start running into issues fitting the fans in there without hitting the steering box or pulleys. It can be done with some massaging, but it wasn't fun.
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Re: Will this Clear stock Hood?

You can still buy shorties from several brands that are 3rd gen specific, but if you want longtubes you’ll have to buy a set for a 2nd gen and make them work.
There are still a few long tube headers available for these cars.

https://www.summitracing.com/search/...yle%3Astandard

I've got the Hedman Street Headers 68460.
The issue with the Blueprint engine is that the exhaust ports are raised 1/2" over the OEM. This may cause some interference with the chassis.
Keep in mind too, that since the demise of the Hooker/Blackheart headers, there's no longer a fully bolt-in header to tailpipe setup. It'll be on the builder to make a y-pipe to adapt the headers to whatever catback exhaust is in there.

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There are still a few long tube headers available for these cars.

https://www.summitracing.com/search/...yle%3Astandard

I've got the Hedman Street Headers 68460.
The issue with the Blueprint engine is that the exhaust ports are raised 1/2" over the OEM. This may cause some interference with the chassis.
Keep in mind too, that since the demise of the Hooker/Blackheart headers, there's no longer a fully bolt-in header to tailpipe setup. It'll be on the builder to make a y-pipe to adapt the headers to whatever catback exhaust is in there.
something must have changed, there was a time when all the sellers had taken these down due to new regulations. I think there was a thread on here about it. Glad to see they’re back!
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Originally Posted by RedLeader289
something must have changed, there was a time when all the sellers had taken these down due to new regulations. I think there was a thread on here about it. Glad to see they’re back!
I know that the Hooker/Blackheart versions were pulled by Holley. Something to do with the EPA saying that Holley was encouraging car modifications that excluded catalytic converters. True or otherwise, the Blackheart headers were about the top of the line especially considering the packaging available for the rest of the exhaust. And the tech support supplied by the engineer who helped with development was also top of the pile.
As for the OP and the raised exhaust ports, it may well be that I have a similar port architecture but I can't say for certain without being able to compare directly. I know that the Hedmans I posted installed easily, fit perfectly and offer plenty of clearance for the spark plugs and tools needed.

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