....and they said it couldn't be done (Part 2).
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....and they said it couldn't be done (Part 2).
My original post is getting bogged down with pics and I wanted to post more, so I decided to start a new thread. This one is of my intermediate "pipe", which also shows the crossover. It is 3-1/2" in diameter.
11-24-2002, 12:44 PM
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Car: 1987 Z28 Convertible
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Over the axle we go>>> Notice the pair of flanges with bolts? Those are slip-fit joints so I can drop the entire rear section, if necessary (such as in removing the fuel tank):
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and through the tightest spot. This is where most shops won't attempt to install a pair of 2-1/2" pipes:
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and around we go to the mufflers.
I've had this system now for over one month, enough time for it to "settle". No vibrations yet!!
Willie
I've had this system now for over one month, enough time for it to "settle". No vibrations yet!!
Willie
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Ahhhh......
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:lala: That, my friend, is the most beautiful exhaust ever. :lala:
:lala: That, my friend, is the most beautiful exhaust ever. :lala:
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Please go to my original post, "....and they said it couldn't be done...." for specific information, including cost.
I got the idea from the 2000 Berger SS. It uses a pair chambered mufflers. However, the difference is that it uses a single 3-inch over-the-axle pipe that splits into a pair of 2-1/2 inch pipes, each leading to a muffler. My idea was simply keep each pipe separate and join each one via a pair of pipes to the back end of each cat. Simple.
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I got the idea from the 2000 Berger SS. It uses a pair chambered mufflers. However, the difference is that it uses a single 3-inch over-the-axle pipe that splits into a pair of 2-1/2 inch pipes, each leading to a muffler. My idea was simply keep each pipe separate and join each one via a pair of pipes to the back end of each cat. Simple.
Willie
11-29-2002, 07:37 PM
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Wow, that exhaust DOES look killer, coming from a mustang guy currently.. DAMN! Very sweet..
Willie, on a side note, I think your website really needs to be updated! Ive checked it out since i left the f-body world a lot and its still the same
Willie, on a side note, I think your website really needs to be updated! Ive checked it out since i left the f-body world a lot and its still the same
11-29-2002, 08:14 PM
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Thanks.
You're absolutely right about the website. It has not been updated in over two years and is sorely needing to be. Most of the "new" information has been collected and written, along with new pics. All I'm lacking now are some exterior shots of the car. My goal is to have it completed by the end of the year.
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You're absolutely right about the website. It has not been updated in over two years and is sorely needing to be. Most of the "new" information has been collected and written, along with new pics. All I'm lacking now are some exterior shots of the car. My goal is to have it completed by the end of the year.
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Willie, you are a ***. It has already been said, but let me say it again, that is the most incredible 3rd gen exhaust ever made, period. You should be forever hailed in the F Body hall of fame.
Very well done. You make all of us 3rd gen owners proud.
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Very well done. You make all of us 3rd gen owners proud.
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As I said last time, that is one beautiful exhaust...NOW I WANNA HEAR IT ... Do you have the sound clips yet?? I can't wait to hear what it sounds like. If it sounds even half as good as it looks then you've definitely got a winner.
Tim:rockon:
... Do you have the sound clips yet?? I can't wait to hear what it sounds like. If it sounds even half as good as it looks then you've definitely got a winner.Tim:rockon:
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I just want to say very impressive work there
wasn't able to read the whole thing but do you have som sound clips we can all istend to?
wasn't able to read the whole thing but do you have som sound clips we can all istend to?
12-19-2002, 12:58 PM
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Thanks again guys, especially you, Tom! Maybe I'll buy you one of these for X-mas???
I've attached yet another pic. This one shows the tail section out of the car.
I've attached yet another pic. This one shows the tail section out of the car.
12-19-2002, 05:20 PM
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Dude, I am gonna hold you to that!!!! I know that you are a man of your word, but I am still gonna print this whole page!
This setup is just too sweet! It even looks mean out of the car.
This setup is just too sweet! It even looks mean out of the car.
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i hate to post tis again cause i know its been answered but, ...was that a setup by anyone in particular or did you make it yourself??? if you didnt make it, who did? what headers do you have on it?
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Car: 1987 Z28 Convertible
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The setup is custom. It starts with 1-3/4" SLP headers (Jet Hot coated), through a pair of SLP pipes to dual Catco converters in the stock locations. From there, you've seen the pics in this post.
I bought all the mandrel bends from Summit (Hooker) and Jegs (Dynomax) to have the system built by a local dude. Hope this answers your questions.
NEWS FLASH!!!!
So many want to hear what this system sounds like. I just filmed a short audio / video clip where you can hear the exhaust. I will create a new post with more info. I'll call it, "Audio of my true dual stock routed over-the-axle setup!"
Willie
I bought all the mandrel bends from Summit (Hooker) and Jegs (Dynomax) to have the system built by a local dude. Hope this answers your questions.
NEWS FLASH!!!!
So many want to hear what this system sounds like. I just filmed a short audio / video clip where you can hear the exhaust. I will create a new post with more info. I'll call it, "Audio of my true dual stock routed over-the-axle setup!"
Willie
12-22-2002, 10:57 PM
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It sounds awesome. I think when I redo my exhaust I'm putting chambered mufflers on, but it will be a hard decision, I love my hookers.
12-24-2002, 12:06 PM
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They're chambered mufflers from Stainless Steel Works (I think that's the company's name).
12-29-2002, 10:32 AM
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Nice, nice setup. you mentioned that a local guy did the work for you, is there any way you could tell us how to get a hold of this person to ahve this same system built for us? :hail:
12-31-2002, 12:50 AM
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Originally posted by 88aziroc
Looks good in the pics, but it looks even better in person. I still like my Magnaflow! I hope to be starting my true dual soon, too.
Looks good in the pics, but it looks even better in person. I still like my Magnaflow!
I hope to be starting my true dual soon, too.
12-31-2002, 07:39 AM
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AM91Camaro_RS:
The mufflers are made by Stainless Works:
http://www.stainlessworks.net
The "default" length is 24-inches. Mine were made 22-inches long.
Falconiroc:
I can give you the name of the guy who put my system together, along with the company he works for and a phone number if you want. My question to you is, are you willing to travel?
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Don't misunderstand 88aziroc. He's a local friend of mine and he currently has a stock system with a Magnaflow muffler. He's planning on replacing the whole system including the Magnaflow with duals, similar to my setup.
I also had a Magnaflow before replacing it with my current setup. On my car, it was loud even at idle. On 88aziroc's 350 TPI, it was not nearly as loud. His engine is almost stock. Also, currently have a Magnaflow on my 305 TPI convertible. The engine is stock and the exhaust sounds almost identical to 88aziroc's.
I can only conclude that the decibel level, at least with the Magnaflow, is dependant on engine modifications.
Willie
The mufflers are made by Stainless Works:
http://www.stainlessworks.net
The "default" length is 24-inches. Mine were made 22-inches long.
Falconiroc:
I can give you the name of the guy who put my system together, along with the company he works for and a phone number if you want. My question to you is, are you willing to travel?
92Transam:
Don't misunderstand 88aziroc. He's a local friend of mine and he currently has a stock system with a Magnaflow muffler. He's planning on replacing the whole system including the Magnaflow with duals, similar to my setup.
I also had a Magnaflow before replacing it with my current setup. On my car, it was loud even at idle. On 88aziroc's 350 TPI, it was not nearly as loud. His engine is almost stock. Also, currently have a Magnaflow on my 305 TPI convertible. The engine is stock and the exhaust sounds almost identical to 88aziroc's.
I can only conclude that the decibel level, at least with the Magnaflow, is dependant on engine modifications.
Willie
12-31-2002, 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by Willie
AM91Camaro_RS:
The mufflers are made by Stainless Works:
http://www.stainlessworks.net
The "default" length is 24-inches. Mine were made 22-inches long.
Falconiroc:
I can give you the name of the guy who put my system together, along with the company he works for and a phone number if you want. My question to you is, are you willing to travel?
92Transam:
Don't misunderstand 88aziroc. He's a local friend of mine and he currently has a stock system with a Magnaflow muffler. He's planning on replacing the whole system including the Magnaflow with duals, similar to my setup.
I also had a Magnaflow before replacing it with my current setup. On my car, it was loud even at idle. On 88aziroc's 350 TPI, it was not nearly as loud. His engine is almost stock. Also, currently have a Magnaflow on my 305 TPI convertible. The engine is stock and the exhaust sounds almost identical to 88aziroc's.
I can only conclude that the decibel level, at least with the Magnaflow, is dependant on engine modifications.
Willie
AM91Camaro_RS:
The mufflers are made by Stainless Works:
http://www.stainlessworks.net
The "default" length is 24-inches. Mine were made 22-inches long.
Falconiroc:
I can give you the name of the guy who put my system together, along with the company he works for and a phone number if you want. My question to you is, are you willing to travel?
92Transam:
Don't misunderstand 88aziroc. He's a local friend of mine and he currently has a stock system with a Magnaflow muffler. He's planning on replacing the whole system including the Magnaflow with duals, similar to my setup.
I also had a Magnaflow before replacing it with my current setup. On my car, it was loud even at idle. On 88aziroc's 350 TPI, it was not nearly as loud. His engine is almost stock. Also, currently have a Magnaflow on my 305 TPI convertible. The engine is stock and the exhaust sounds almost identical to 88aziroc's.
I can only conclude that the decibel level, at least with the Magnaflow, is dependant on engine modifications.
Willie
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absolutely willing to travel, or ship, might be a while since I'm working on an LS-1 swap at the moment, which will require a fully custom exhaust, so someone who is skilled at custom exhaust setups. So yea, if you could email me some info at geekness@msn.com, I'd really really appreciate it.. And again, KUDOS on the best F-bod exhaust I've seen yet.
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Truely stunning! Willie has one of the all-time great 3rdgens of all time! Gotta love the 305!!! 
BTW, Willie, you used to have info about making those clear parking lights on your site. Are you gonna put that stuff back up. I really wanna do that mod!
BTW, Willie, you used to have info about making those clear parking lights on your site. Are you gonna put that stuff back up. I really wanna do that mod!
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WOW...
Willie,
That sounds and looks great. Wow, I'm impressed. I live in Tucson also...I hope I run into you. Either way....love your camaro and sounds great. You'll be the first I'd run to if I have any questions towards upgrading my exhaust.
Once again Willie......great job.
That sounds and looks great. Wow, I'm impressed. I live in Tucson also...I hope I run into you. Either way....love your camaro and sounds great. You'll be the first I'd run to if I have any questions towards upgrading my exhaust.
Once again Willie......great job.