Badrs2810

Maybe someone has these and could answer, in their opinion. There are two types of super 10 mufflers single/single single/dual. Would it be better to try and run an exhaust to support two s/s or would it be better to use a s/d to replace the cat and run dual piping all the way back? Any opinions, anyone try this, is it possible??? I'm running Hedman shorties, planning on their y-pipe too, so it would be a direct slide in on the muffler if I went s/d, just thought I'd ask, thanks guys

InfernalVortex

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There is no point to dual pipes out the back if it's a single before that. All it does is add cost and complexity. Past the crossover, wherever you y-pipe merges, the engine doesnt care if it's a single or dual.

Badrs2810

Then why make the muffler to dual out? Just to have the piping? Thats fine, was just wondering what it would sound like and if it were a benefit

Base91

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Just looks/style and cheaper/easier than running dual all the way.

InfernalVortex

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Dual out is for when you run it at the back of the car in the stock location, and you have a car (like 3rd gens) where you cant run dual exhaust. The dual out muffler allows you to run two tips out the back.



Depending on the muffler setup you can use it to make fake duals in other vehicles or do dual tips on one side, etc.

But at the end of the day you wont see a cost or performance benefit to putting a dual-out muffler in place of your cat.

Badrs2810

Yeah I figured that.... Didnt know, how that would benefit or hurt, now I have an idea. Off this brand of muffler.... I don't need cats, that's another reason I asked. Could it be possible to run, the dynomax ultraflow x-pipe muffler in the cats place? Dual in/ dual out? Would that benefit?

Base91

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It may sound better but there's a lot more to getting more power/torque out of an exhaust system than just throwing on dual pipes/mufflers.

Badrs2810

What would stop it from making power? Good heads/headers/ dual 2-1/4" pipes from headers to an "x-pipe"/ dual 2-1/4" piping out? Not too much to Pull away from back pressure and not too little to hurt performance.... I have a hp limit.... I'm not looking to make more than 405 crank hp when I'm finished.... Bout 350-375 hp to the tires MAX!! I don't want anything stupid fast, but don't want my camaro to be pushover. Would this not support that, or a better idea?

InfernalVortex

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You're better off with a big 3 inch or 3.5 inch single pipe. Good shorties with a good y-pipe are the most important part. Hooker 2055's are probably the best all around option after Dyno Don's.

Badrs2810

I bought a pair of Hedman elite shorties 68478, they seem to be the same as 2055, but different y of course, I have not bought the y yet, I paid $80 for the headers, they have never been installed, they were purchased from the last owner in 09 never used so he sold them.

InfernalVortex

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The hedmans have a smaller collector and a different layout.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HED-17478/

That's your y-pipe. Only a 2.5 inch pipe.

You got a good deal on those headers and they are decent, but the y-pipe you're stuck with unless you build your own will hold you back. If you've got a single 2.5 inch pipe going all the way to the cat, then adding a 3 inch or dual exhaust (dual 2.5s?) setup from there is kind of pointless.

Badrs2810

They have the ball end type.... And the diameter is 3", same as the hookers, but they came with an adapter that takes it from a 3" to a 2.25", I could somehow get that piece modified to accept a bigger tube. I'm wondering... Could I buy the hooker y-pipe and cut the tubes that run to the headers and mod that to bolt up to my headers? I wouldn't have to pay for it, bring it into work and get our welder to do it for me.

InfernalVortex

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Different manufacturer's make shorties with collectors in different places. They wont interchange. Someone with a welder might be able to shoehorn it together if they were clever, but it's by no means a simple hammer here, bend there, bolt in deal.

Those headers you have are a great deal, but the reason everyone recommends the hookers is because they have such an excellent y-pipe. Even those have some flaws, but they're overall the best available.

I would just get that y-pipe and call it a day unless you want to pay someone to build you a y-pipe for it.