Drew

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I've had a few 86 LB9's. Never again. Also for some reason the high back base model buckets really look wrong in that car. I'd be double checking the RPO codes.

92droptopws6

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The IROC was my High School ERA, this car was an absolute success. The only way to get an american car to out handle the IROC was to have a C4 vette..
The design was on point, the power was not too far off of what we have today just look at the TQ numbers! With bolt ons and exhaust work we were running mid13s at sea level and had very good fuel mileage when cruising.
IROC is a name well known and will never be forgotten!

IMissMy86TA

Yup.. The headliner looks nonstock

backgammon7

I have a friend, and i asked her if she knew what an iroc was, and she said "thats a kind of camaro isn't it?" This girl doesn't even know what kind of car her mom drives and she knows what an iroc is, but the real kicker is that after i asked her what an iroc was, i asked her what a z28 was. She had no idea.

if we remember something important, an IROC-Z28 is a Z28. The Z28 is a legend, no if ands or buts.

Rolling Thunder

To me I dont think they are legends. They could one day become what is considered legendary but that will take some time. My reasoning goes back to the what the term legendary actually means as defined in an earlier post quoted above. To me right now the cars are not legendary because many of us have grown up with them and know what there all about there not particularly rare yet. Course youll probably notice that once upon a time 60's ss camaros and hemi cuda's weren't considered legends either. So what difference does time make? These cars will only become legendary to the next generation at best because by then many of these cars will be long gone and your average kid wont be able to find them for sale or know someone who even has one. All thell really know about them is the glorified stories of our experiences with them and thats how they become legends. We tell stories about them that are considered historical but because our experiences for the most part are not verifiable they will become the stuff of legends. For example the Hemi Cuda most people havnt ever driven one but when you bring up the hemi cuda immediately people think of a legendary 1/4 monster machine. The IROC too could be one of thoes names you just say and is related too all the storys your told about how great they were. The thing about legends are that the stories dont have to be true just believed in. Many of the muscle cars people though of as fast were 13-14 second cars back when they were new which is good but isnt particularly impressive. Granted they had much more potential with modern tires and such but the point is you hear the stories of there greatness and people hold them in larger than life standards because they know only what they hear. In the case of the IROC if stories are passed down about there unbeatable performance ect true or not they will become desirable street legends of yesterday. So their future legendary status depends more on the people who loved them (and their abilities at telling stories) then the cars themselves.

Sinz86IrocBlk

Legend, icon, historic masterpiece, sure whatever. The real question is do you think these cars will be remembered amongst some of the greatest? Not what adjective you use to describe it. I think it will most definitely be remembered, because of the reaction from real car enthusiasts and the casual observers alike. I have old friends from elementary school that saw my mom drop me off at school in my father's IROC asking me if it's still in the family. Things people remember about these legendary (or whatever you wanna label them) cars is the the distinctive sounds and the feeling of being pinned to the seat during acceleration, not to mention a sexy body. People remember the model because this was all out of the factory, not a car that needed aftermarket parts help to perform, sound, and look impressive.

The IROC decals set it apart from the other models because they were the fully loaded deal and were commemorative to the actual International Race of Champions at the time. We here are particular enthusiasts of the 3rd generation F-Body indeed but there is no doubt that these cars leave an impression and those that are car fanatics in general do take notice.

dynodave52

It was the car i always wanted. Now i finally have one. Yes in my mind.

scottmoyer

I had drinks with Scott Settlemire this evening and this thread was brought up. Scott mentioned to me that the IROC-Z is definately a legend. He told me the story again of the focus group and 85% of the people choosing the 1985 IROC-Z as the most representative of what a Camaro is. He also stated that any car can be an SS, but a Z28 can only be a Camaro. He then said that no matter who you talk to, if they know anything at all about cars, when the word IROC is mentioned, people think Camaro. Even the Mopar crowd think Camaro before they think Daytona. And what about Pontiac? They used the Firebird for years in the IROC races. The fact that you say that you drive an IROC and people think Camaro, makes the car a legend!!!

Reid Fleming

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I've seen this with the 63-67 Corvettes, They've simply disappeared from car shows. You know they haven't been wrecked all that much in the last 15 years. So I can't think what other reason there would be that you don't see them anymore. Used to get 10-15 show up at shows. Now you're lucky to see 1. Meanwhile you see tons of 1955-57 Chevys. Old Chevelles etc.,

One thing I've noticed from car shows I've been in is that the most attention I get is from young kids (pre teen) and retired people. The people age 40-65 walk right by like I'd parked a Chevy Cavalier there. The kids, I can understand. They've probably never seen one of our cars up close before. I suppose the older people see it as a younger car that they never really paid attention to but at the same time see how the torch has been passed on to us who've kept the muscle car going. But the baby boomers tend to stick to their "classic" car show cars. The 1st gens, the hot rods, the shoeboxs. I've always hated the idea of "pre-72 only" car shows. I'm tired of seeing those cars.

Getting back to the question of legend. I'd say yes, but I'm not sure if legend is the right word. I see C5 and C6 Corvettes every day. But I'm the only GTA driver on the street. I get a lot of stares from fellow drivers at stop lights. Thumbs up, waves etc. Generally people in their 20's. So I'd say the demand for these cars is coming up at sometime in the future. But having said that, I still don't think we'll ever be 1st gen legendary.

CamaroIROC88350

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I have a long post to make, so please guys bear with me.

I grew up in the 80's & 90's & I remember seeing those Camaro's with the strange IROC word on the side. Even in the last few years I would see a strange box like car with the word IROC on the side but I didn't give it much thought. Early last year when I was seeking out for a cool car I gave thought to cars like the Grand AM GT, Trans-Am, V6 Mustangs & Camaro's, a Camaro Z28 LS1 or LT1 & a few others. As fate might have found me (as far as cars go) I ended up finding this one gem on Craigslist that I really thought was cool. It was a 1988 IROC-Z Camaro 350 TPI. At THAT particular time I didn't know squat about it other than it was a Camaro & also that I would be better off with a 350 vs. the 305. My other car I own is a Jeep & I knew more of that than I did a F-Body. So I saw the car in the ad, told my girlfriend this is what I want to look at & we test drove it the next day! The day after it was mine! I was impressed with it from the get go and body, underbody, (have since inspected the whole car) and other important parts were/still are very clean & in order. Last summer I got hit in my driveway by a Hummer, so my passenger side fender & mirror has to be replaced. My door got messed up near the mirror but it's original & I'm keeping it. But I am still ticked off about that.

Anywho, this 1st post to this thread is just me talking about how I found myself with an iconic IROC-Z. Maybe you could throw a little bit of legendary to it since it is one true muscle car that was the car to have back in the 80's.

CamaroIROC88350

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My 2nd post to this thread is about a few other thoughts I have on this thread.

I have learned too much info on these cars over the last year to put on any one page (both sides). I even had to start my own website because I love the car so much & I like to show the progress I'm making on my ride. At local car meets last year many guys there had Mustang's, Camaro's (mostly LS1 & LT1), some pimped out V6's & a multitude of other cars. You don't see many 3rd Gen's though & the few that are there are usually non-IROC. When I've talked to many people over the last year everyone talks greatly of the IROC-Z & some have wished they never sold their ride years ago. I've had people walk up to me out of the blue & say, dang your car looks great! Even with the dented fender & mirror jacked up, LOL (my damage is minimal, thankfully).

However there are many who have learned alot of misinformation on the IROC-Z too. Some think there were IROC Camaro's in the mid 90's & they would argue with me on it too. There are others who think that there were 350's in the pre-1987 IROC's (except for the few non-released 350's in 1986). Others (usually punk teenagers or young guys in their upper teens) think that the IROC is a slow piece of junk & some say that their mom's minivan or sedan would eat it up. But nonetheless I've talked to lot's of people who don't know what the IROC Camaro really is and that is many things.

CamaroIROC88350

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Sorry guys, this thread is awesome & I read everyone's post on it so far before I posted my thoughts.

Continuing I'd also like to add that there are folks who think they have a 1991 IROC-Z (never made) and they'll argue with me about it. Either they knowingly lie on their car ads or they really are ignorant of the fact that it's no IROC-Z. I had one guy email me (when I put my car up for sale briefly last summer after losing my contract job) and tell me my car is NOT stock, lol, because I have my original t-tops & I had noted that in my car ad. He said the 1988 IROC-Z 350 didn't come with t-tops & that I shouldn't claim it's original. I told him to f-off after I explained to him that there were 88 Z's with t-tops & that my RPO code proves it too.

The IROC-Z Camaro may be looked down by many people who are ignorant of the car or just plainly don't like American cars in general. What the car is may mean something different for each person who has one or has had one but in my personal opinion (after having it almost a year this month on the 28th) I have to say that it's a true American muscle car icon. It's a bad a@@ car & to have one in good condition with an original t-top set-up & a dashboard in one piece is truly a gem to have. Granted I've had to replace many old parts & I've upgraded alot of stuff, I'm not changing my exterior or interior parts (except the CD player). Even though I was a kid in the 80's and didn't know too much of anything, I know enough now that when I see a Foxbody Mustang that I want to feel those good times that were felt back in the 80's when these 2 cars battled daily on the streets. Nowadays I'm having to deal with smart a@@ v6 sedans, cross-overs, suv's, trucks & of course the v8 machines and it's not always easy to sit back & not hit the gas pedal.

The IROC-Z Camaro is a gem in good condition & I foresee it's value spiking up more & more. This car is something that many guys will want to buy when their kids are done with college or high school & I look forward to meeting new guys with a 3rd Gen.

daredevil25

The IROC is definitely a legend. Everyone around this area knows what that is and a bunch of girls know too. My mom even knew what an IROC was before I got my thirdgen. IROC-Z28 is an awesome name.

IROC212

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I think you are spot on, I remember looking in the Classified ads when I was 12 or 13 and seeing a Yenko Camaro for $20k, (18ish years after they were made) Now, a mint one maybe $100-200k. Now I don't think the IROC will ever get to that level of rarity, but to the right generation they can be considered legendary. I recently overheard some kid at a carshow call an NSX legendary, because he "heard" how fast they were, but never drove one.

85 lg4

I would say The Iroc-z is a legend. I have been to tons of shows and tracks and they always get attension. Remember in the 70's-80's people were parting and junking 1st gens like they were going out of style. Hell I can tell you for sure my own father hauled at least 2 SS BB first gens and a RS to the junker(auto shop)That we have pics of on the tow truck. Just like these cars nowdays. Soon they will be back as those kids of the 80's reach that mark and we can tell those stories. AYY remember back in 2010 when I got those Iroc wheels from that guy who had parted like 15 out. Man what a idiot he was imagine if they were all here and running now ...

86NiteRider

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I have owned several Camaros including a 69 SS Pace car drop top and a 92 25th Anniversary....but until this weekend I had never owned an IROC Z...let me just say if I combine all of my years of owning Camaros I have received in three days more comments, looks, stares, offers to buy, statements of how lucky I am, etc over this IROC Z than any car I have ever had...for me that makes it legendary and since I am the owner I am the only one that needs to think it is legendary...I can't change any ones opinion and from the looks of the last three days I don't think I need to-they agree...


I don't even know how it's a debate..they are both Iconic AND legendary

Gregvandy

In my opinion, IROC is legendary, it's what made me want a camaro. I've had alot of camaros, nearly all in better shape than my 88 iroc, none of them cars evoked even close to the same feelings this car does. Everyone turns to see the car, & I rarely here it referred to as a camaro. It's usually, "nice iroc" and my car has no decals. I realize the regular z28 isn't much different, but it is different & it's not an iroc. I have an 02 ss, a 94 z28 & the iroc. Those cars certainly don't compare. If it's not a legend I don't know what Is

Project 3.4 Camaro

They're what made me want one too, when I was a kid and you actually saw 3rd gens on the road semi frequently, I always thought they looked badass...wanted one since before I could drive :P

Caveman305

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Mines an RS clearly marked on the rockers amd bumpers and everybody still calls it an iroc(that know what irocs were but dont know enough to know the difference), if most 82-92 camaros get called iroc it must be a legend, obviously it left an impact on the car scene in a good way

rojas1826

IROC-Z is just the coolest name given to a camaro. the car may not be seen as legendary by everyone but the name is and people do also call rs's irocs they see a thirdgen and thats the first thing that goes to their head. its like even if they knew it wasnt an iroc theyll still call it that just cause it sounds so cool. "look its an IROC"!

Iroctopless

This is also an Iroc, but I'm glad they're mostly forgotten!

TxTtopZ

Good thread. Especially considering most of us spend a **** ton of money on these cars and so far...won't see anything close on a return (investment wise) like the 1st generation or some 2nd gen owners do.

Legendary? No. Not even close. The performance just wasn't there and in MY mind I consider a legend to be nearly unbeatable in it's day (and then some) and these cars just didn't have it. I have been beaten by stock Maxima's in my 85 TPI Z28! Stoplight to stoplight the Mustang 5.0 was ALWAYS right there. Corvette was even quicker but the C4 is clearly not even close to becoming a legend. I don't see people lining up to get their hands on one anyway. If ANYTHING the 5.0 Mustang via aftermarket support and popularity on the current racing scene from it's light weight has made that car closer to becoming "legendary" than the IROC.

The IROC to me is for people who are seduced by its looks, the memories it brought and for some of us... it's honest technological advancement compared to the competitor. The IROC had many advantages over the Mustang and in my opinion, was a better example of what America was capable of in the 80's.

I must say, I do often worry about what's going to happen to my car after Im gone. I would love if I had my baby cherished by family like an air loom for generations but I seriously doubt that's going to happen. Even as much as I try to "push it" on my kids.

Not to sound weird but I consider myself lucky. I actually am glad it's not a legend at this time because if it was... I wouldnt be able to afford one! I actually GET to own my all time favorite car (over and over again too!) and Im pretty sure MOST people cannot say that. NO OTHER CAR ON THIS PLANET has CAPTIVATED MY MIND, TAKEN UP SO MUCH OF MY TIME and STRESSED ME OUT more than the IROC-Z. So honestly it's a LEGEND in my own mind and solely responsible for my addiction to cars and probably the reason I work for Chevrolet as a Technician. Which in turn, is rasing my kids, putting them through school and putting food on the table... Now if I can get my kids to understand that, and make them understand what this car meant in it's day. It may turn out alright for the old turd. lol

kmcn47

well no, as an enthusiast of camaros you do, but as the general public any thirdgen is an IROC. my 84 z28 has been called an iroc more times then i can count and i was incredibly suprised with how many people called my 2.8 firebird an IROC. i was like its not even a chevy. i guess you could say its not so much a "legend" as it is a generalization. know what I'm saying? everyones got a v6 rs that they try to sell as an IROC. just like how they made 500 gnxs and only 2500 survive get it?

John in RI

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Yes,


When in 'junior high' I was sitting with my guidance counselor and he said to me," You don't want a crappy job and drive a Chevette everyday,... You want to cruise around in an IROC like all the other guys and need a good job to pay for it." (This guy had been my Gym teacher in grade school a few years earlier)

Fast-forward 30 years and there is still just 1 thing that just about all people see in their minds-eye when you say IROC.

Say Z28 and people will remember cars from across several generations,... same is true wih Mustang or Nova, or any other name-plate. The IROC embodied the eighties like NO OTHER car ever has, or probably ever will. It might not have been a legend in the 90' or 00's, but with the kind of wide recognition it still has ( even from people a full generation after it was introduced ) IMO, Yes; the IROC Z28 has achieved legendary status.


For us ThirdGen enthusiasts the true 'legend' would be a factory 86 350

kmcn47

while i hear what you're saying and i understand where your coming from.....

ahem 80s much?

John in RI

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Ahh Yes,


DeLorean,...... The 'Edsel' or the 'Gremlin' of it's decade. NOT legendary; more like in-famous.

TxTtopZ

Whats wrong with the Delorean? With 1.21 Gigawatts, its a Prius owners wet dream!

Actually, I heard that those cars came "FULLY LOADED" back in the day if you know what I mean...

paul_huryk

I definitely comsider the IROC a legend, and here is why:

1) The Z28 was used in the IROC series from 1985 to 1990. Prior to that, the only noteworthy IROC cars that anyone would know about were the 911's back in the early to mid 70's.

2) When you say IROC, most people automatically assume 3rd gen as that was their only unique Camaro trim level, same goes for the GTA. Say Z28 and you could be talking about any generation.

3) First pony car to actually handle well due to the spec 16" rubber. The earlier Z28 handled good, but the IROC was a full step up in capability.

4) The IROC received the best drivetrains - in 1987, the IROC could be had with a L98, the Z28 was relegated to a LB9.

5) They sold over 40,000 of them in 1985 and 1986. They barely sold that many Camaros and Z28s in 1992, total.

6) The 1LE version was competitive and very sought after - they made much less of those than the 91 to 92 cars.

7) I turned 17 in 1988 and all the cool kids had IROCs, GTAs, or Monte SS cars if they went GM.

IMissMy86TA

They (and GTAs) were one of the few cars that turned heads. I know the fox bodies were fast but no one drooled over them. I was 16 with a black 83 Camaro Sport Coupe and in 86 I had an all black TA (no tape so it looked like the coming GTA). both cars got conversations going. I had a Grand national ask me to pull over so he could look at the TA and told me what a bad *** looking car I had. He could beat me but admitted mine looked better

I had a neighbor girl with a 87 IROC black with red interior. very hot looking combo. She wasnt bad either. Loved all those hot 3rd gens. Love my current one too

KMK454

Legend can have positive and negative connotations. I think all of us associate positive ones with IROC-Zs, myself included. However, I received some grief from non-thirdgen enthusiast friends over the "Legend" surrounding the IROC when I bought my car (which isn't even an IROC, but to outsiders, an 82-92 Camaro is an IROC and the Pontiac versions were all in Knight Rider).

MY87LT

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I would agree that it's the car most people associate with third gen Camaro's.

Neal301

A thirdgen, simply put, IS an iroc z to most people. The body style is what they associate with it. Lets be honest that in itself makes the car special.

JTW

I just purchased an original 40k mile survivor IROC-Z in beautiful condition for this very reason. It's a condition 1 car and a legend to me. Many of us recall these cars in high school. Where I grew up, you either wanted a Fox body 5.0 or an IROC-Z. I graduated high school in 1988 and dreamed of this car from the day I first saw it in Motor Trend circa 1986. Now, 27 years later I finally found "the one".

This is one occasion where the dream lives up to the reality. I have owned many cars, and this one certainly puts a huge grin on my face every time I look at it and drive it. Will it ever be a 427 Cobra or a 71 Hemi Cuda? Probably not, and I am ok with that. Is it a head turner that's a blast to drive? YES.

MY87LT

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The Dodge Daytona. It was no Camaro but it was nice in its own right.

Jim85IROC

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This thread is almost 4 years old, and my opinion hasn't changed. Though I personally consider the IROC to be a legend (and my favorite car), I still don't think that the rest of the world agrees. 95% of the time when people see me wearing a Camaro shirt or hat, their eyes light up as they ask me what year, then as soon as I say "85" their look of excitement changes to embarrassment and they don't ask any more questions. They're all expecting me to say "69" or "2010+". While they may know what an "IROC" is, it doesn't change the fact that the average schmuck has little to no interest in thirdgens, and that's why it's not "legendary".

mpb74

I agree with you simply because I love IROC'S.
however we all know the name IROC has been placed on all kinds of cars! including K cars from Dodge!!
If you look around you can already see the 3rd gens are starting to gain steam with there value. i'm not sure how old you are but 20 years ago, 1st gens were everywhere for 3500 bucks! 2nd gens are still sitting everywhere and everyone still hates them...lol

scottmoyer

Please be cautious with the terms you use. It's almost impossible to have a 40k mile vehicle in condition 1 status. My car is rated at 996 of 1000 points in 1000 point judging and 199 of 200 in 200 points scale, but based on what criteria make a condition1 car, my car is a solid #2. According to eBay, my car is a number 1 car, but collectors will disagree with that.

Condition 1, Excellent

A car in this category rarely moves. It sits in a museum or a temperature and humidity controlled ‘garage.’ When it does move, it goes into an enclosed trailer to a national car show, where it has a good chance of taking 1st place. Vehicles in this catagory are trailer queens and have the trophies to prove it. Unless you attend national car shows, you probably haven’t seen that many Category 1 cars.

Here's some from another site:
RATING DESCRIPTION
1 EXCELLENT/SHOW CAR
A masterpiece, this perfect original car is in the same condition it was in when delivered new or better; or a professionally-restored car that has been restored to new or better than new condition. This car is not driven, and is transported to shows in an enclosed trailer. Normally stored in a secured, temperature and humidity controlled environment when not being shown, this car would be expected to come within a point or two of a perfect score when judged by professionals using current criteria.

2 FINE
An original car with very low miles that has been meticulously maintained since new; or an older professional restoration that has seen very limited use since restoration. Very close inspection by an expert may detect almost insignificant flaws or wear, but to most enthusiasts the car would look perfect. This car would come within several points of a perfect score when judged, and would receive the top award at a show unless a true Number 1 car were also being judged.

3 VERY GOOD
A well-maintained original car that has been driven limited miles over the years; is completely operable with all equipment working as designed, and at first glance may look perfect; or an older restoration that has been driven limited miles since the restoration was completed, and is showing minor wear and tear from being on display at car shows. Closer inspection may reveal minor wear on parts susceptible to showing wear, such as brake and gas pedals, and some thinning of paint and chrome finishes may also be noticed.

JTW

Thank you for the clarification. Under your definition, my car is indeed a very strong condition 2 car. A true survivor. I stand corrected.

((Mike))

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Congratulations! I graduated in 88 as well and last August I too bought a low mileage 87 in the color I always wanted. I just came out of a 550hp 2012 Shelby mustang that I decided I didn't want to make payments on anymore. My 5-Speed IROC is not nearly as fast but it is way more "balanced" and fun to drive. To me the IROCZ is pure eye candy. If they had done the generation 5 camaro based on the 3rd generation body style, I would have ordered one in a heartbeat. Enjoy your new toy and take some photos for us.

TxTtopZ

Exactly.

IMissMy86TA

Back in the day I was a car lot boy for a dodge dealer. I drove those all the time. Really didnt like the cars at all. had a very econo car feel to them and the smell.. not a good new car smell at all for most dodge cars at that time... the minivans just stunk. To me they looked like they were copying the camaro profile and ride on its coattails. sorry to be harsh.

MY87LT

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You weren't being harsh. I drove a turbo Daytona and thought it was a fun little car.

drduster

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As enthusiast's, I think we have to separate our opinions from the general populace.

My primary brand is Mopar, but am objective enough to own anything that I find appealing. I really don't care that much for GM products but find the looks of 3rd gen Camaro's very seductive. I know the IROC-Z is not much different than a Z-28, but those subtle differences make it a MUCH more appealing car & my favorite 3rd gen. My brand loyalty only goes so far when it comes to Mopar's front wheel drive cars. I don't care how fast their turbo cars of the 80's & 90's are. They're still rattle trap disposable cars. I didn't chose my car because it was called an IROC. It just happened the combination of styling, performance & sound that appealed to me was called an IROC.

Regardless of what our car's value are, or what anyone's definition of legend is, most people have never heard of the International Race Of Champions. They don't know what cars were used in these competions. When most people hear the word IROC they don't think of Porche Carrera, Pontiac Trans Am or Dodge Daytona. They don't even think of 2nd gen Camaro's. It's because of how the 3rd gen cars were brilliantly marketed, that the association with the word IROC is to the 3rd gen Camaro.

MY87LT

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Don't forget the Dodge Avenger. That was an IROC car too. At least in the races after the Daytona was killed off.

drduster

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Good call. The Avenger was easy to forget, even for a Mopar guy...

82RZ

By definition a 'legend' is a story handed down from the past, widely believed but unverifiable. We can verify that IROCs were built so to me, they're not a legend. Desirable? Yes. Legendary? No. LOL.

However, if anyone can point me to a 'Available For Sale' 1990 IROC Drop-Top in paint code #75 (Dark Red) I'am ALL Ears. And Yes, I'll consider 'That' IROC to be legendary and will have $$ Cash in hand.

scottmoyer

I had a Dodge Daytona in '91. Bought it new and loved that car. Until it got totaled!!!

rusty vango

I test drove a IROC back in the day.i was thouroughly impressed with everything EXCEPT its $20,000 price tag.but I thought...... some day.fast forward some 30 yrs. and I have my IROC, a black 86 LB-9 car. everywhere I go I get compliments. and stories.legendary? maybe. fun as hell, definitely.

((Mike))

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From this angle it doesn't look bad at all.

WayneZzWorld89

I personally like the word iconic for these cars. Reading all these posts makes me really glad I jumped at the opportunity to get one when I could. When I was growing up this was the car of my older brothers generation. He's thirteen years older than me and a lot of his friends had IROC's and other 3rd gens. My love for hear cars has been around a long time and I think if I waited longer to get one I would've ended up regretting it when they slipped out of my price range. I think these will spike sooner or later when the 80's kids start making money and collecting cars. These and the fox bodies will be the cars they sought when they were kids and the ones they're going to start buying now.