History / Originality Got a question about 1982-1992 Camaro or Firebird history? Have a question about original parts, options, RPO codes, when something was available, or how to document your car? Those questions, answers, and much more!

This base Firebird is a real creampuff.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-24-2016, 10:27 AM
  #1  
Supreme Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
chazman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 9,668
Received 546 Likes on 376 Posts
Car: 1989 IROC-Z. Original owner
Engine: LB9. Dual Cats. Big Cam
Transmission: World Class T-5
Axle/Gears: BW 3.45
This base Firebird is a real creampuff.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/311739204254?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Old 11-24-2016, 12:28 PM
  #2  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (58)
 
Drew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Salina, KS
Posts: 20,309
Received 1,052 Likes on 748 Posts
Re: This base Firebird is a real creampuff.

My lord those are some hideous louvers. They need to go in a dumpster before they scratch up the trim or even the glass.

It looks nice, aside from being boring and an acquired early 80's color choice inside and out. Accessories sound a little noisy, and the underside looks like someone did some careful spray bomb beautification.

The price seems high for a base model.
Old 11-24-2016, 02:37 PM
  #3  
Supreme Member

 
paulo57509's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Tracy, CA
Posts: 3,178
Received 44 Likes on 38 Posts
Car: '87 IROC
Engine: LB9
Transmission: TH700R4
Re: This base Firebird is a real creampuff.

Maybe it's just the angles and lighting but the driver's side door and passenger side fender color doesn't really match the rest of the car.

Other than the price, it would make a good commuter.
Old 11-25-2016, 06:08 AM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
SolarGoldRaptor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: France
Posts: 588
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Car: 1984 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am
Engine: V8 5.0L HO (L69)
Transmission: B&W T5
Axle/Gears: 3.73 limited slip
Re: This base Firebird is a real creampuff.

Nice car, I love survivors like that, especially lower end models with few options.
Old 11-25-2016, 07:01 AM
  #5  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (8)
 
TTOP350's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Il
Posts: 11,731
Received 778 Likes on 523 Posts
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: This base Firebird is a real creampuff.

Pretty cool. Wish it was a different color
Old 11-26-2016, 10:21 AM
  #6  
Member

 
kymmee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: NE Ohio
Posts: 490
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
Car: 82 MSE/89 TTA/89 Formula/99 TA
Re: This base Firebird is a real creampuff.

Seems nice for a base car. A little overpriced IMO. Sometimes sellers have these and really dont want to move them. They are hoping to find an un educated buyer. When I had my 82, I wanted to sell it and priced it accordingly.
Old 11-26-2016, 11:21 AM
  #7  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (9)
 
84 1LE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Oyth
Posts: 6,206
Received 322 Likes on 264 Posts
Car: 89RS vert
Engine: Erod
Transmission: 4L65e
Axle/Gears: BW, 3.27
Re: This base Firebird is a real creampuff.

Old 11-26-2016, 12:20 PM
  #8  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (8)
 
TTOP350's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Il
Posts: 11,731
Received 778 Likes on 523 Posts
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: This base Firebird is a real creampuff.

I saw that as well, the great floorjack incident of 1986 or could have backed into or run over something. Its weird but I have seen that quite a bit. Just gently hammer it back down into shape
Old 11-26-2016, 12:39 PM
  #9  
Member
 
Alaska Hwy 1Le's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mile 300 Alaska Hwy
Posts: 104
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 91' Z28 1LE R7U
Engine: 350 ZZ6
Transmission: 6 Speed T56 Magnum
Axle/Gears: 3:42 posi G80/GU6
Re: This base Firebird is a real creampuff.

I wonder how badly they ripped off the "lady" they got it from.
Old 11-29-2016, 11:21 AM
  #10  
Moderator

 
okfoz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Posts: 14,235
Received 164 Likes on 119 Posts
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Re: This base Firebird is a real creampuff.

One thing for sure is the bottom of the car has been painted, there are no longer any markings noting that the bolts are tight, and the axle has been painted. I thought only the B&W axles were painted Black, the Saginaw axles were bare metal. My 83 was not painted IIRC.
Old 11-29-2016, 03:45 PM
  #11  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (3)
 
PurelyPMD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Newtown, CT
Posts: 3,038
Received 46 Likes on 37 Posts
Car: 1987 IROC Original Owner
Engine: LB9
Transmission: M39 MM5
Axle/Gears: G80 G92 J65
Re: This base Firebird is a real creampuff.

For all the critical comments it's a very good sign that dealers like this (and Legendary, etc.) are starting to buy & sell these cars. For those of us who would like to think that our cars are something other than a money pit, and may cover their costs some day, this is a sign they are going up.

....and for those who keep track, I sold an 88 base model bird with more miles for more.
Old 11-29-2016, 05:57 PM
  #12  
Supreme Member

 
KMK454's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: CA
Posts: 1,337
Received 47 Likes on 34 Posts
Car: 1991 Camaro B4C
Engine: 305
Transmission: T-5
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: This base Firebird is a real creampuff.

I love this thing. The "complaints" are easily fixed - the louvers, front plate, and mudflaps come off. In a base car like this with the color combo, I'd be fine with the automatic. I don't even think it's over-priced (but of course I'd try to negotiate!).
Old 11-29-2016, 06:17 PM
  #13  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (11)
 
DynoDave43's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: MICHIGAN
Posts: 4,643
Received 754 Likes on 580 Posts
Car: 1988 Trans Am
Engine: L03
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 10 Bolt 2.73 Open
Re: This base Firebird is a real creampuff.

Originally Posted by PurelyPMD
For all the critical comments it's a very good sign that dealers like this (and Legendary, etc.) are starting to buy & sell these cars.


Originally Posted by KMK454
I love this thing. The "complaints" are easily fixed - the louvers, front plate, and mudflaps come off. In a base car like this with the color combo, I'd be fine with the automatic. I don't even think it's over-priced (but of course I'd try to negotiate!).
I love the car. Price seems very reasonable for such a survivor.
Old 11-29-2016, 06:20 PM
  #14  
Supreme Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
chazman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 9,668
Received 546 Likes on 376 Posts
Car: 1989 IROC-Z. Original owner
Engine: LB9. Dual Cats. Big Cam
Transmission: World Class T-5
Axle/Gears: BW 3.45
Re: This base Firebird is a real creampuff.

My wife drove a very similar '84 Firebird when I met her.

Think I should surprise her with it for Christmas?
Old 11-29-2016, 06:20 PM
  #15  
Supreme Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
chazman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 9,668
Received 546 Likes on 376 Posts
Car: 1989 IROC-Z. Original owner
Engine: LB9. Dual Cats. Big Cam
Transmission: World Class T-5
Axle/Gears: BW 3.45
Re: This base Firebird is a real creampuff.

Originally Posted by KMK454
I love this thing. The "complaints" are easily fixed - the louvers, front plate, and mudflaps come off. In a base car like this with the color combo, I'd be fine with the automatic. I don't even think it's over-priced (but of course I'd try to negotiate!).
Old 11-29-2016, 06:21 PM
  #16  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (11)
 
DynoDave43's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: MICHIGAN
Posts: 4,643
Received 754 Likes on 580 Posts
Car: 1988 Trans Am
Engine: L03
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 10 Bolt 2.73 Open
Re: This base Firebird is a real creampuff.

Originally Posted by chazman
Think I should surprise her with it for Christmas?
Absolutely.
Old 11-29-2016, 06:36 PM
  #17  
jmd
Supreme Member

iTrader: (4)
 
jmd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Aridzona
Posts: 6,288
Received 42 Likes on 41 Posts
Car: `86 SS / `87 SS
Engine: L69 w/ TPI on top / 305 4bbl
Transmission: `95 T56 \ `88 200-4R
Re: This base Firebird is a real creampuff.

A friend in high school had the brown interior in a t-top firebird with those wheels.

I don't know about how quick that one will sell, but I bet it brings back memories for somebody. I don't do spray bomb rebuilds, regardless.
Old 11-29-2016, 07:12 PM
  #18  
Supreme Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
chazman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 9,668
Received 546 Likes on 376 Posts
Car: 1989 IROC-Z. Original owner
Engine: LB9. Dual Cats. Big Cam
Transmission: World Class T-5
Axle/Gears: BW 3.45
Re: This base Firebird is a real creampuff.

Originally Posted by DynoDave43
Absolutely.
Circa 1989 she made her last payment. A couple weeks later it was stolen and totaled in the ensuing police chase.

She has zero emotional attachment to it....
Old 11-29-2016, 08:20 PM
  #19  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (58)
 
Drew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Salina, KS
Posts: 20,309
Received 1,052 Likes on 748 Posts
Re: This base Firebird is a real creampuff.

Originally Posted by PurelyPMD
For those of us who would like to think that our cars are something other than a money pit, and may cover their costs some day, this is a sign they are going up.
Resale value at any point is somewhat irrelevant to those of us who don't plan to sell our cars.
Old 11-30-2016, 11:04 AM
  #20  
Member

 
kymmee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: NE Ohio
Posts: 490
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
Car: 82 MSE/89 TTA/89 Formula/99 TA
Re: This base Firebird is a real creampuff.

Originally Posted by DynoDave43




I love the car. Price seems very reasonable for such a survivor.
This one does have a V8 and factory A/C. Two things that potential buyers of mine wanted (that it did not have.)
Old 11-30-2016, 12:43 PM
  #21  
Supreme Member

 
KMK454's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: CA
Posts: 1,337
Received 47 Likes on 34 Posts
Car: 1991 Camaro B4C
Engine: 305
Transmission: T-5
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: This base Firebird is a real creampuff.

The best part about this car is it is clean, original, and probably not one of the cars that will appreciate. That means you can happily drive it for now, and when the drivetrain needs refreshing, you can swap in an L98 with a built WC-T5.
Old 12-03-2016, 11:44 PM
  #22  
Supreme Member

 
KMK454's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: CA
Posts: 1,337
Received 47 Likes on 34 Posts
Car: 1991 Camaro B4C
Engine: 305
Transmission: T-5
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: This base Firebird is a real creampuff.

Re-listed at $4900!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-Pontiac...m=332051351141
Old 12-04-2016, 11:19 AM
  #23  
Supreme Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
chazman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 9,668
Received 546 Likes on 376 Posts
Car: 1989 IROC-Z. Original owner
Engine: LB9. Dual Cats. Big Cam
Transmission: World Class T-5
Axle/Gears: BW 3.45
Re: This base Firebird is a real creampuff.

Originally Posted by KMK454
Uh-oh. If it gets any cheaper, I might have to get it simply on general principle.
Old 12-05-2016, 07:33 AM
  #24  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (3)
 
PurelyPMD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Newtown, CT
Posts: 3,038
Received 46 Likes on 37 Posts
Car: 1987 IROC Original Owner
Engine: LB9
Transmission: M39 MM5
Axle/Gears: G80 G92 J65
Re: This base Firebird is a real creampuff.

LOL
Old 12-05-2016, 03:09 PM
  #25  
Supreme Member

 
KMK454's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: CA
Posts: 1,337
Received 47 Likes on 34 Posts
Car: 1991 Camaro B4C
Engine: 305
Transmission: T-5
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: This base Firebird is a real creampuff.

Originally Posted by chazman
Uh-oh. If it gets any cheaper, I might have to get it simply on general principle.
This car would be a blast with that T5 swap you did on your early Camaro. Pull the louvers, mudflaps, front plate and drive!
Old 12-05-2016, 03:46 PM
  #26  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (2)
 
dmccain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: South Ms
Posts: 4,438
Received 726 Likes on 495 Posts
Car: 89 Firebird
Engine: 355 TBI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 10 Bolt.Posi-3.73s
Re: This base Firebird is a real creampuff.

Originally Posted by Drew
Resale value at any point is somewhat irrelevant to those of us who don't plan to sell our cars.
I am one of those people.




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:44 PM.