GeneralDisorder

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I'm more of a firebird guy personally. I would fix this back to original and likely pass it on. It's been stored indoors for 13 years. Definitely needs a fuel system (doesn't run - no fuel pump action). Zero rust.

It is available to me exclusively. I'm looking for an idea of value on this one. If should invest the time, money, etc to get it back on the road, replace the missing stereo, etc.








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GarageToys

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That would make a great flip if you can buy it for the right money. It looks largely like it hasn't been messed with too much. If the paint is saveable, it's a win. Paint/body is probably the biggest detriment to fixing these cars up because you can get another car for the cost of a (good) paintjob. I'd like to see you get it because I like your plan for it: Make it nice & get it in the hands of someone who will keep it nice. Otherwise, the next guy will probably put a carburetor on it, JC Whitney racing seats, a Daytona turbo hood and 15" Cragars. Don't let that happen.

okfoz

IDK what you are buying it for, but it looks like it is in good shape, The Blue with the tan I would not think would go, but it seems to look good together.

Prices are all over the place for these cars, you might sell it for $5000 to $15,000 it depends on the day, where you live and the buyer...

The good,
L98
Miles are decent, not awful
condition seems to match miles

If it was me, and depending on what it needs, I would clean it up, get a new dash pad, get the stains out of the carpet, find a nice original CD player Radio, and just get everything working... You might make a few bucks on it.

In reality it depends on what they want for the car, if it is $2500, then jump on it, $5000 might be a little much with the wiring issues it appears to have...

Looks like it is missing the sail panel pieces in the rear, a new serpentine belt. a dash pad, radio, Expect those to cost around $1000


Keep in mind there are a lot of unknowns...

John

sofakingdom

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I would buy that. $6k seems just about right. Interior is in particularly good shape with the possible exception of the dash pad; looks like no rust; looks like it was stored in a garage.

All around, seems reasonable to me. Might be possible to turn a small profit with not too much work, or might make a good summer driver.

GeneralDisorder

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$6k is about my purchase price. Is everyone thinking that's what it's worth *after* I fix it and detail it? At least here in Oregon there's ZERO rust issues on cars so it's going to be very solid being garaged for 13 years.

If I could turn a few $k - maybe sell it for $10k - I might consider it. I know I'm asking the wrong crowd because of course it's doubtful anyone here would buy and most here will probably balk at that kind of asking price. But really if you buy something that's a cheap POS and fix it up you WILL spend that much in the process so to someone that's looking for a turn-key solution it doesn't seem outside the realm of reality these days.

Cons..... Not an IROC . No T-tops. Kinda ugly interior and what's with the leather?

Pros.... low mileage, nice paint (not a terrible color), L98.

If only it was a 92 WS6 Formula T5...... I would keep it.

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Reddragon88gta

I am a Firebird guy too but If you can get that at 4-5k or under it would be a solid deal . Up and running with a radio and clean it up a bit someone will buy that car for maybe 9-10k or more, it has some desirable options, low mileage, and largely unmolested which is getting rare with these cars. Also that car has eyes with the blue, its an attention getter that should sell.

topduarte

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Run from it. The odometer shows "666".

JK. I would not spend more than $5k total and that includes transportation to Texas.

GarageToys

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Not me. I think that's a 5-figure car all day once sorted out and detailed. As much as everyone at TGO loves these cars, most think they should be perfect for $4K because apparently it is still 2001. Check current 'retail' pricing online: eBay, online car dealers, etc. Everyone wants $15-30K for nice thirdgens. If you have time to wait until one guy who had a blue 92Z with beige leather in high school/college is willing to pay you eBay money so he can relive his past, you can probably make a big profit. But more than likely, you advertise and sell it locally and it's a $10K car. That's my opinion anyway, but most would say I have way too much invested in my car. But I'm reliving my college years, so it's ok.

StevenB L98/LS1

For a none running, wiring issues possible, dash pad, radio, sail panels, not knowing what other things needs attention underneath the car, exhaust may leak??? Brakes, transmission? I would say $3000-$3500 and no more. Once you start investing money into it and other problems may creep up along the way you might not make to much off it because of the unknowns you don't think needs attention... Such as Air Condition/Heat might not work from sitting 13 years. If you plan on selling this around the 10-12k range the price i gave you should leave you with a decent profit. Otherwise your profit will shrink.

GeneralDisorder

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It runs on starter fluid. I have offered $5k contingent on the seller swapping the fuel tank, pump, pickup and filter and demonstrating that it runs on it's own and drives. It has to for transportation purposes anyway.

I own a performance shop so the repairs once I get it here are trivial. And I can park it for sale out front also. Will be a good visual draw for chassis dyno and tuning customers.

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JimRockford

I’m a Firebird/Trans Am guy too. I’ve only owned one Camaro,the one I have now. I still prefer Trans ams. That being said I think the car you’re looking at is pretty nice,I don’t see many medium quasar blue cars and 66k miles is pretty low for a third gen,plus it’s a 1992 and they only made 5,197 Z28 coupes,so there aren’t a lot out there. I’ve also read that 1992 third gens used new body sealing technology when they were built so they are quieter,but I’ve never had a 92 so I can’t say. I don’t know,but if you like the car and can get it for a price you feel comfortable with I say go for it.

P.S. I noticed that the 92 has orange needles on the gauges. My car has yellow ones to match the numbering. Did certain models get orange needles?

George Klass

Factor in possible injector service/replacement too. Mine sat for 13 years injectors were totally clogged.

topduarte

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All had orange. Here is mine.

dmccain

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Lots of issues you may not see on the surface....electrical gremlins, etc. But if you could get it for 4-5 and put another 2 in it..maybe it sells for 10-11k.

GeneralDisorder

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So apparently it does have fuel pressure. And it runs on ether. The "mechanic" tested the injector signal with a noid light and found no signal. I have schooled them on the ways of TPI and they are going to re-test with all the injectors disconnected to ensure one or more shorted injectors aren't pulling down the injector pulse. So it looks like it probably has bad injectors or an ECM issue. I will help them through this and get it fired up.

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okfoz

The good news is the old ECMs don't need to be programmed to the car like the new cars... So, if you had an ECM for a 1990-1992 L98, it should plug in and run, all those years used the same ECM, and the L98 engines were the same, same heads, cam, crank, piston compression etc... So there is that bright side.

JimRockford

Interesting,Mine are yellow

BizJetTech

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My guess is that color combo is a bit on the rare side, I've never seen that color interior in a blue car ....just a guess it's a low production combo

jczoka

$3000 to $5000??!? Are you kidding? It’s not 2005. You can’t even get a 10 year old corolla with 150,000 miles for that. Times are changing and these cars are gaining value fast. Especially L98's, IROCS, 5speeds, and 91-92's. What we used to think was the value in the automotive world is long gone. For example have you seen battery prices lately? I just bought a 24 series, store brand, 3 year for my truck at O'Reilly. Cost me $180!

GeneralDisorder

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It appears to either be a dead ECM or a VATS issue and someone has bypassed the starter relay (speculation). Either way I'm going to setup an ECM with a VATS disable chip running AUJP and send it over to them.

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JT

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It sounded like a VATS issue but your note about it cranking gave reason to reconsider. While I suppose an ECM can be faulty, it's more likely from a resulting failure. You're in the year range where the injectors are known to be junk, and it happened with my own 1992, but taking out the drivers is not something I've experienced or read about associated. VATS issues specific to the chip and reader is higher failure rate.

GeneralDisorder

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New information - apparently along with the stereo the previous owners also removed an alarm system and talking with the guy working on it, it appears that it may have been a remote start setup and when the alarm was "removed" they either left in some kind of starter inhibit relay bypass or connected things back up so that it cranks..... it's possible the alarm system had a VATS simulator built into it and now the ECM is just in VATS disable mode. I'm just going to send them a VATS disable ECM and bypass both potential problems in one shot.

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giovanhalen

I have a headache reading about the problems and there will be more you don't know about. If I buy a car to flip I buy one that has no problems or is so cheap I can sell it even with the problems. Blue cars have not good for me.

GeneralDisorder

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It's only a notable issue because I'm diagnosing remotely. In person I would have already had it running and been well past this point. Overall it doesn't look like it will be a big problem - VATS delete, replace missing stereo and speakers. Detail it of course and perform some overdue maintenance. Should be all it needs.

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JimRockford

Looks like the previous owner cut holes into the door panels for speakers. That sucks. I’ve seen people cut out bigger holes in the rear speaker area too in the past.

GeneralDisorder

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I'll likely just put speakers back in the holes. Probably will sound better than the dash mounted units anyway. Not that uncommon for such modifications to be done back in the day when these were still new.

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ray jr

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well y
when you can buy mint 1le z28's in 2020 for mid teens then id say this is a 5,000 car ..

GeneralDisorder

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Not everyone wants a 1LE. And yeah - you probably could buy a 1LE for mid teens - with higher mileage in an uglier color. Doesn't make this car worth $5k. It's worth what someone will pay, and most first time turn-key buyers probably don't know what a 1LE is vs. any other Z28 except that the 1LE has no AC or leather - which at this stage of owning these cars is a detraction from enjoying and cruising the car. Even a 1LE third gen is SLOW by comparison to a modern V6 Camry or Accord - no one is buying a 1LE third gen to race it. Sure there's a few people that value them as a piece of history but to your average 80's kid that wants a Z28 this low mileage Quasar Blue unit has a good look that will attract a buyer. Don't worry I'll post when I sell it.

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JT

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It's an 80U Quasar Blue with 64I Light Beige interior, right? If so, according to Compnine there's 20 Z28s in their database making it low production color trim indeed.

dagwood

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I damn near bought a 92 Z28 when I was in college in 1994 that was this cars identical twin. The car had like 20k miles and the paint was falling off it everywhere. GM was going to have it repainted under warranty.

I would give $5,000 for that car in a heartbeat.

dmccain

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If the bugs are figured out on this car I really think you will fetch a good price. I agree id take A/C and leather over a brake package and no A/C any day Lol.

indy82z

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That is why I think the B4C is the ultimate package because you could get both!

navy02ws6

Yours are Yellow because they're faded. They were all more of an Orange color from the factory. Someone swapped a tach from another car into my '91 RS, so I had multiple shades of Orange/Yellow. Ended up just re-painting them with some reflective gauge needle paint.

881SA

Sure seem like a find to me, looks like it had pretty good care from just the couple of pictures.
Like the deep blue.

881SA

Just curious on a CompNine membership how accurate the "Personal VIN Decoding PLUS" package is. Pretty detailed to breakdown just the 20 as you note just wasn't sure what plan you had and if you would recommend the basic one?
Sounds like a staple for a collector dealer???

88IROCvertZ

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I think the 91/92 Z28s are coming up in price. I also know some people love the tan leather on those cars. It’s pretty rare.

Sounds like a decent amount of work. It needs a fuel pump and fuel system, but I’m assuming you’re doing that yourself. Time is money though.

A proper dash pad isn’t cheap and this car deserves more than the plastic cover they make. Radio is cheap, but looks like someone put holes in the door panels for speakers, huh?

I could see a car like this going for $12k on BringATrailer. At least $10k all sorted, detailed and presented.

I think someone who loves the high spoiler Zs will buy it and throw some of the new 18” Ronal wheels on it and lower it... Probably keep it stock...

it’s a really nice car. I’d try to get it under $6k given what it needs. If you can do the fuel pump and the detailing yourself the dash pad is probably the most expensive item.

okfoz

Compnine has about 95-97% of all the Vins within their sorted breakdown system, so there might be one or two more out there, but not many more than that. There are some unsorted ones which do not get into the totals for some reason, not sure why they never made it into the sorted system. Sometimes you can run a VIN and it will come back with all of the data, show total production numbers (those are sorted) and then there are those which just come back with each RPO, no production numbers (unsorted)

GeneralDisorder

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Little update on this.

It was the injectors. Looks like someone had already replaced the fuel pump and tank and when that didn't get it working it got donated. A set of Delphi injectors got it running and driving. It will be on it's way to me shortly.

I'm getting it for $5k plus shipping. And the deal was he would get it running and driving for that price so the work done so far is included in the $5k.

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IROCIN

Nice deal! Interested to see what you get for it when you do sell it!

GeneralDisorder

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It has arrived from it's sea voyage.



Drove to my shop from the port. First impression is good! Needs hood struts and the idle is high - likely a vacuum leak.

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BOTTLEDZ28

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Vacuum leak is most likely from the person changing the injectors and reusing the old tpi gaskets. A simple check with a can of brake cleaner (green can) will narrow that down. Another place to look is the vacuum hoses connected to the plenum. Overtime, they dry out and crack. Then, someone comes in and starts removing parts and the hoses crack to the point where they no leak.

You've got a nice project there. Clean it up and drive it. make sure its running nice and safe. You never know, you might just like it and decide to keep it

Jenkins

Congrats. If there aren’t any big surprises, I think you got a solid deal. Good luck!

Che70velle

Love this car!