SEATS on GTA 1987
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SEATS on GTA 1987
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there are two different kit of rebuilt cover seat for firebird trans am GTA 1987 code AQ9 on classics industries, what does that mean ? what kind I have ? mine is ?
1987-92 Regal Velour Upholstery
F10092006 1987-92 with solid rear
F10092106 1987-92 with split rear
there are two different kit of rebuilt cover seat for firebird trans am GTA 1987 code AQ9 on classics industries, what does that mean ? what kind I have ? mine is ?
1987-92 Regal Velour Upholstery
F10092006 1987-92 with solid rear
F10092106 1987-92 with split rear
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Car: 1987 Formula (original owner)
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Re: SEATS on GTA 1987
Your upholstery is Medium Dark Grey Pallex cloth, for which you will not find a match in reproduced seat covers.
Except for the damaged driver seat cover, all of the other seats look good, from what we can see in your pictures, so I don't see the need for a full set of seat covers. If you get a full set of new reproduction covers, and you just recovered the driver seat, then the driver seat will be different than the other seats. But if all of the other seats need recovering too, but we can't see that in your pictures, then it won't matter if the new material is different--except the new seat covers won't match the door panels.
So if all other seats are good, then, again, I see no reason for a full set of non-matching seat covers. For an alternative, contact Princess at Lethal Interiors.
https://lethalinteriors.com/
She can make a new seat cover for the driver seat only, with correct Medium Dark Grey Pallex cloth. The new material will be darker than your other seats, not much, but it will be the correct material and color, and it will look better than a ripped driver seat. Or have new covers made for both front seats so they match each other, but not the rears, and all will look good again.
Except for the damaged driver seat cover, all of the other seats look good, from what we can see in your pictures, so I don't see the need for a full set of seat covers. If you get a full set of new reproduction covers, and you just recovered the driver seat, then the driver seat will be different than the other seats. But if all of the other seats need recovering too, but we can't see that in your pictures, then it won't matter if the new material is different--except the new seat covers won't match the door panels.
So if all other seats are good, then, again, I see no reason for a full set of non-matching seat covers. For an alternative, contact Princess at Lethal Interiors.
https://lethalinteriors.com/
She can make a new seat cover for the driver seat only, with correct Medium Dark Grey Pallex cloth. The new material will be darker than your other seats, not much, but it will be the correct material and color, and it will look better than a ripped driver seat. Or have new covers made for both front seats so they match each other, but not the rears, and all will look good again.
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Re: SEATS on GTA 1987
Perfect time to replace with the much nicer, leather covers.
Split rear seats refer to the fold down seat backs of the rear seats. They were either split in 1/2 50/50 or a solid fold down. Exceptions to that are the 1988 Notchback and 1989 Turbo TA which used a 45/45 w/ headrest for the rear.
Split rear seats refer to the fold down seat backs of the rear seats. They were either split in 1/2 50/50 or a solid fold down. Exceptions to that are the 1988 Notchback and 1989 Turbo TA which used a 45/45 w/ headrest for the rear.
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I did look closer before I posted, for that very reason. I opened them on my phone, expanded them to very large, and they remained very clear, and very clearly Pallex, the door panels too.
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Perfect time to replace with the much nicer, leather covers.
Split rear seats refer to the fold down seat backs of the rear seats. They were either split in 1/2 50/50 or a solid fold down. Exceptions to that are the 1988 Notchback and 1989 Turbo TA which used a 45/45 w/ headrest for the rear.
Split rear seats refer to the fold down seat backs of the rear seats. They were either split in 1/2 50/50 or a solid fold down. Exceptions to that are the 1988 Notchback and 1989 Turbo TA which used a 45/45 w/ headrest for the rear.
Regal velour in silver is the same, I think, perhaps I do an mistake...
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1987 GTA’s were Pallex cloth. 88-89 were Metrix. I’m not sure about 1990 and later.
Another alternative is to find a good passenger seat and swap the covers over to your driver seat.
Another alternative is to find a good passenger seat and swap the covers over to your driver seat.
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If you say so. I can't get the photos large enough to tell, and don't follow GTAs close enough to know. I just know there were two different cloths used, and mentioned it so the OP can learn how to spot the difference and decide how it may be relevant to his circumstances.
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AQ9 is the RPO code for Ultima seats (standard on all GTAs, optional on 1987-92 Trans Am).
As no one currently makes new cloth covers that look anything like the original pattern and the vinyl that's made looks super cheap, I would either spring for the expensive leather replacements, or see if you can find a used seat in the same original material that has a large enough section of good cloth that an upholstery shop would be able to cut part of it out, and use it as a patch for your driver's seat.
Edit: I see you're in France, so original used seats are going to be a little tougher to come by over there. That pattern was used in a variety of GM cars in the 1980s, if that helps at all...
As no one currently makes new cloth covers that look anything like the original pattern and the vinyl that's made looks super cheap, I would either spring for the expensive leather replacements, or see if you can find a used seat in the same original material that has a large enough section of good cloth that an upholstery shop would be able to cut part of it out, and use it as a patch for your driver's seat.
Edit: I see you're in France, so original used seats are going to be a little tougher to come by over there. That pattern was used in a variety of GM cars in the 1980s, if that helps at all...
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ACME has vinyl. Katskin used to do leather, not sure if they still do. Princess/Lethal probably can do whatever you want. I'm sure there are other sources, leather covers for the GTA seats haven't ever been difficult to find the few times I've looked.
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Sorry for my late response, I have just the passenger seat who is good, the rest is bad, not visible on the picture = I need a full set
I ask an invoice to Princess but I have to plan tax and duties because I live in France ....
If no I have an the solution of rockauto with not the same of the original in silver
https://www.rockauto.com/fr/moreinfo...=1001572&jsn=8
or I change completly with leather vinyl but I am afraid by this leather vinyl perforated ..... Is it solid compared to the "velour" ??
https://www.rockauto.com/fr/moreinfo...=1001572&jsn=8
thanks your feedbacks
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I have the same seats and material in similar condition in my '91 GTA. Ripped on seat bottom but not large rips luckily. I have material samples and the closest fabric available I can find is Chino Velour and sold thru Hawks Motorsports. I'm debating on going with vinyl, but would like to see a set done before ordering. Used seats in good condition are almost impossible to find, even here in the states... Good Luck!
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Can;t tel lif the insert is perforated...i think on the stock leather ones....the inserts were perforated to allow for butt cooling or something lol
It would be the middle part with the lines
It would be the middle part with the lines
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Perfect time to replace with the much nicer, leather covers.
Split rear seats refer to the fold down seat backs of the rear seats. They were either split in 1/2 50/50 or a solid fold down. Exceptions to that are the 1988 Notchback and 1989 Turbo TA which used a 45/45 w/ headrest for the rear.
Split rear seats refer to the fold down seat backs of the rear seats. They were either split in 1/2 50/50 or a solid fold down. Exceptions to that are the 1988 Notchback and 1989 Turbo TA which used a 45/45 w/ headrest for the rear.
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These are Hampton vinyl from Hawks. That's the factory accordion stitched to it. They are very soft and very comfortable and not very hot in the sun. I had those cloth seats that are no longer reproduced.
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https://www.hawksmotorsports.com/87-...tzkin-leather/
but impossible for price + cost of transport + tax and duty ...... I think approx 1600 USD ....
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So beautiful ! This one below ? But rear seats haven't the foam layer behind the head ? Because on picture from hawk .... there are
https://www.hawksmotorsports.com/87-...tzkin-leather/
but impossible for price + cost of transport + tax and duty ...... I think approx 1600 USD ....
https://www.hawksmotorsports.com/87-...tzkin-leather/
but impossible for price + cost of transport + tax and duty ...... I think approx 1600 USD ....
85-92 Firebird GTA Lumbar Style Seat Upholstery Kit New Replacement - Hawks Third Generation (hawksmotorsports.com)
You select material and rear seat on the side menu
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This is the set I have
85-92 Firebird GTA Lumbar Style Seat Upholstery Kit New Replacement - Hawks Third Generation (hawksmotorsports.com)
You select material and rear seat on the side menu
85-92 Firebird GTA Lumbar Style Seat Upholstery Kit New Replacement - Hawks Third Generation (hawksmotorsports.com)
You select material and rear seat on the side menu
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Almost the same ....
rockauto = $600 with transport
Hawks => $818.50 without transport
....rrrr
rockauto = $600 with transport
Hawks => $818.50 without transport
....rrrr
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The material that closely matches the grey pallex cloth you have is Lt. charcoal Chino Velour. I have a sample of this material, but I have yet to see a set of seats done with it. I have the same grey cloth interior and have been thinking about getting a set before another price increase.
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The material that closely matches the grey pallex cloth you have is Lt. charcoal Chino Velour. I have a sample of this material, but I have yet to see a set of seats done with it. I have the same grey cloth interior and have been thinking about getting a set before another price increase.
The difference are not big between hampton leather and velour, I would like to upgrade but ....rockauto just do hampton but just for notchback with the foam layer on rear seat... that s a pity.
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If you like the leather look and feel, the Hampton is very convincing. It's not cheap vinyl at all. And it's durable.
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Perhaps anothers feedback on vinyl or regal silver or charcoal here on this forum ? For give an idea of quality and rendering .....
If no an alternative to hampton and mean better that velour ..
https://www.rockauto.com/fr/moreinfo...01572&jsn=4705
on the rendering in charcoal can be pass, more dark
the same with more picture
https://www.firebirdcentral.com/1987...p/int-2218.htm
If no an alternative to hampton and mean better that velour ..
https://www.rockauto.com/fr/moreinfo...01572&jsn=4705
on the rendering in charcoal can be pass, more dark
the same with more picture
https://www.firebirdcentral.com/1987...p/int-2218.htm
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Perhaps anothers feedback on vinyl or regal silver or charcoal here on this forum ? For give an idea of quality and rendering .....
If no an alternative to hampton and mean better that velour ..
https://www.rockauto.com/fr/moreinfo...01572&jsn=4705
on the rendering in charcoal can be pass, more dark
the same with more picture
https://www.firebirdcentral.com/1987...p/int-2218.htm
If no an alternative to hampton and mean better that velour ..
https://www.rockauto.com/fr/moreinfo...01572&jsn=4705
on the rendering in charcoal can be pass, more dark
the same with more picture
https://www.firebirdcentral.com/1987...p/int-2218.htm
not sure if this helps but here's a pic of the seat the day it was finished and the way the material looked as it arrived.
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This is the set I have
85-92 Firebird GTA Lumbar Style Seat Upholstery Kit New Replacement - Hawks Third Generation (hawksmotorsports.com)
You select material and rear seat on the side menu
85-92 Firebird GTA Lumbar Style Seat Upholstery Kit New Replacement - Hawks Third Generation (hawksmotorsports.com)
You select material and rear seat on the side menu
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Hello,
Sierra Vinyl charcoal color from rockauto "acme" received, good stuff, not Hampton but good..
For the installation ....it is a .... long job ....... with this seats AQ9..... rear seat is ok, but now I am on the front seat, it is not the same thing .......
Sierra Vinyl charcoal color from rockauto "acme" received, good stuff, not Hampton but good..
For the installation ....it is a .... long job ....... with this seats AQ9..... rear seat is ok, but now I am on the front seat, it is not the same thing .......
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I have this illustration but I don't understand how the velour are fixed ..... I don't arrive to demount this part ..
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