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you need it because an LS1 has a return line for the fuel. where our tanks do not.
Your LB9 should have a return line. I think the LS1 tanks are made of some kind of composite, no corrosion. Thats why its better to go with a 4th gen tank.

Anyways, I've been waiting to see this car for a while. I'm sure it will be killer when they are done.
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Don't some LS1's have no return line. I thought i read that somewhere..
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My engine only has one fuel line going to the engine......
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IIRC, the 1997 Corvette was the only LS1 design with a fuel return line...
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Please ask them the details of the fuel pump. Are they using a 4th gen one or a third gen retrofitted into the new tank. My LS1 setup uses the factory lines that loop back to the tank. I need to know if the 3rd gen pump complex will fit into the fourth gen tank.
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after a certain year the LS1's lost the return line for the fuel tank. I got that out of a Corvette Rebuild Book thing though, so im not sure on camaros...

But the reason im posting this is because im curious how you can have high fuel pressure without a bypass valve, where exactly does the pressure wind up? how is it regulated? and isnt that bad for the fuel, no circulation, heat buildup? guess not or GM wouldnt have done it.
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Yes you are correct. The 97 fuel line is the only one with a return. My car has uses the pressure regulator as a by pass system. The correct pressure is still maintained at the fuel rail.

As far as the design goes. The probability of heat build up and vapor lock are significantly increased. The reason why they did it was because of emissions. The wanted to eliminate excess vapors in the tank. Luckily I have not experienced any of this. Once I thought I did when my fuel pump failed. Walboro high performance pump solved that problem.
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hey flynlow dont change the wing, and when the car is done i think you should put v6 badges on it or something, so people will think its slow. Also what about putting an electric cutout on the car .
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dude ure car is gonna be sic! i also vote for you to keep the wing. i think its what makes it your car.
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Well FLYNLOW, do you have pictures of the car yet with the motor in it ????

Have you driven it yet?
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Originally posted by 1bad91Z
Well FLYNLOW, do you have pictures of the car yet with the motor in it ????

Have you driven it yet?
The motor is in the car, however Roy has not sent me the pictures of it yet, computer troubles.......

I'll bring it up once again when i talk to him on saturday.......

I have not driven the car since the first week of January, I live in Florida and the car is in Charlottle, North Carolina......So we'll have to wait and see.......hopefully within two weeks the car will be done i can pick it up......

A few hours later, expect some video of some crazy doughnuts in a empty parking lot......

An electric cutout is on the list of things to do, In the future I may install a hooker cat back system and at that time get a cutout for the exhaust......

I'll post the results of me and Roy's conversation on Saturday afternoon......
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I cant wait for a vid!!!!!!!Im excited for ya......more than my car is getting, oh wait all it got this winter was a new grill and alternator.
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Originally posted by FLYNLOW92rs
I live in Florida and the car is in Charlottle, North Carolina
So on your way back to FL with it, pull off I95 at Savannah and let me have a peek.
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Originally posted by FLYNLOW92rs
Not to mention the improved gas mileage of 30 mpg on the highway will help to offset some of the cost.....
I agree Ahahahahahahahahaha
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Gas tank is probably an OBDII deal. System monitors the fuel tank pressure and maybe varies fuel pump speed to regulate line pressure or something. Whole new deal with these cars, probably simpler to just change tank, plus get a much newer tank to boot. Sort of sounds like these guys know what they're doing. I wouldn't touch a job like that, life is too short. Be one hell of a car when done!
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Originally posted by Morley
So on your way back to FL with it, pull off I95 at Savannah and let me have a peek.
I'll post a thread on the regional board before i come on my way back, and would be willing to make a few stops to meet some people, simply becuase i will need to stop for food and gas anyway......
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almost 7,000 views....nice build up of anticipation. hope everything turns out good for you!

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cant wait to see the pics and vids
It will look something like this:
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I'm trying to add this up in my head and I'm coming to about $8000 for everything, how much did you pay for the engine and tranny? I see them go constantly for $2500, that with the $2000 for labor and another $3000 for miscellaneous your looking closer to $8000. But by no means are you getting ripped off! I was debating building a monster 350 or going LT1/LS1 forever and am still undecided. I'm gonna wait until I see your cost and subtract labor costs and go at it myself. My car doesn't even run, it's crap actually, a project car in the fullest meaning of the term. Your car makes me anxious to get to mine though. Awesome job on the car.

On a side note, who is that beautiful woman in your avatar?

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Hey man, if it isnt too much trouble would you mind cutting across to the other side of Atlanta and give me a look at it?

Seriously though, that will be one badass ride. I look forward to seeing you at nationals this year...









Kj Rockz- I never noticed before that you lived in Mililani. I used to live there when my dad was stationed at Hickam. Tell me, is that Safe-Way store still open down there?
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Hey man I was up there picking up LS1 brakes for my 69 Camaro project and I saw your car, it looks sweet!! The A/C setup he has is pretty slick!! Also he currently had 5 spoke SS wheels on the back with the new rear and I must say... they look good on your car!! I told Roy he needs to send you that pic!! I know you want to be different but they looked good on the car!!
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ok.........lets go over this. im lookig to an ls1 for my 1991 z but what all is needed besides the engine to do this swap. what do we have to do to the computers, can we re use our A/C system, and stuff like that. this has been a great informative thread for me but i need more!!!!!

oh and how long will the stock rears last!!! :lala:
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thats all up to you, having a stick and beating the snot of it will blow up the rea really quick. and driving like grandma i think u will never blow a rear.
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ok.........lets go over this. im lookig to an ls1 for my 1991 z but what all is needed besides the engine to do this swap. what do we have to do to the computers, can we re use our A/C system, and stuff like that. this has been a great informative thread for me but i need more!!!!!

oh and how long will the stock rears last!!! :lala:
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sweet thanks.........man i cant wait to see this car when its done. the new wheels and an ls1.............OMG!!!!!! lets get those pics ASAP!
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Originally posted by nolanr0413
lets see this beast allready .
I was supposed to get pictures at the beginning of the week.....I'll give him another call tomorrow to see if i can remind him to send them....

I have some new respect for those of you who store the car over the winter months.....I'm having a hard time dealing with 1 and a half months right now......
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Originally posted by FLYNLOW92rs
I was supposed to get pictures at the beginning of the week.....I'll give him another call tomorrow to see if i can remind him to send them....

I have some new respect for those of you who store the car over the winter months.....I'm having a hard time dealing with 1 and a half months right now......
try 6, omg im like a month or two away from getting her back the itch for driving it is killing me
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try 6, omg im like a month or two away from getting her back the itch for driving it is killing me
Me too... but I have something to keep me from hopping in and taking off with it... actually its something I do not have.... gas in the tank
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Originally posted by FLYNLOW92rs
I was supposed to get pictures at the beginning of the week.....I'll give him another call tomorrow to see if i can remind him to send them....

I have some new respect for those of you who store the car over the winter months.....I'm having a hard time dealing with 1 and a half months right now......
i know the feeling. mine was on the stands awaiting a new rear end till i could come up with the cash
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this is going to be one bad *** ride!.. i cant wait to see the final pics of the car. :hail: :hail: :hail:
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Talked to flynlow the other night car was supposed to be done on the 21st but he was going to mardi gras so anyday now i guess we should be seeing the final product. The wait is killing me
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Originally posted by 1bad91Z
Any updates? Is the car drivable yet?
I'm gonna play it safe and say 2.5 weeks from today......

Nope, not drivable right now the wiring harness will take about 6-7 days to arrive to Roy.....

I was supposed to get pictures a while ago, still awaiting on them from Roy and post as soon as they arrive in my mailbox.....

Only thing left is the Nitrous, Wiring Harness and fuel rail covers.....
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Why nitrous now? Wouldn't of that been better to wait to see if you need it. That Ls1 is going to kick your a$$ compared to that l03. Trust me I know

My *** man how much power do you need!!! hehe
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he probably wants a crap load considering everyone has been tellin him for a long to you need something that is goin to be powerful to back up those looks.
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Hey i have a Lo3 and it just makes me thirsty for gobs of power i dunno why maybe everything gets slow afterwhile. Im buildin a 383 and i wont stop till i get all the parts for over 500 horse.
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he probably wants a crap load considering everyone has been tellin him for a long to you need something that is goin to be powerful to back up those looks.
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As much I can get is the correct answer......

I'm gonna wait to get anymore until, i can get a suspension to match.....
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Are you running a stock suspension? What about a stock rear? Stock rear will probably grenade under that Ls1 especially with a shot of nitrous in there. Your stock rear is what a 2.77 10 bolt rear drum peg leg? (Same as I had) You got bawls man

Your ride will be very sweet
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...gumba.... darm you for your saving!!..... gimme 6 grand for my 406 stroker plz?

very nice though, honestly.. very nice. now slap on an lsx intake, port/polish everything, and new cam, ddddaaaaarrrmmmmmm gonna be like.. flash, but.. faster, and not red. hmmm..

ok, i sleep now.

gj, very nice.
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can't wate to see the pics of your car and the track times!!!
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Stock 4th gen 10 bolt. Same 10 bolt that uses the C clips to hold everything together? I thought guys with normal LS1's and slightly modded LT1's were grenading those? But maybe a fresh rebuild can help take that nitrous shot


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