ChevyRS-305

I have been wanting to learn how to drift for some time. it seems safer and you dont need alot of money to get into it...plus the chicks love it. i have just been looking for someplace or someone(who knows what they are doing) that would teach me how to drift but i just cant find anyplace. I live about 37 miles away from St. Louis in IL but ill be going to florida and Texas next summer so if anyone knows of a place i could go or maybe meet up with someone that would be great

novadk13

start buying tires, and lots of em

ChevyRS-305

o i done got that taken care of i just need a teacher

xpndbl3

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i'd start out with setting the car up for neutral handling and you'll need enough HP to carry a heavy thirdgen through the turns, that 305 ain't gonna cut it. get a road racing cage and subframes, along with thousands of dollars in suspension mods, then give it a whirl.

knoxie90

ChevyRS-305

does anyone know of a thirdgen like this?i wasnt really planning on drifting with my camaro i was going to buy my buddys 94 RX7 and drift with that because i dont want to tear up my baby you know what i mean.

knoxie90

not sure but your going to need a lot of horsepower and your car has to be able to handle those turns. Its very expensive to do. Probably more expensive then drag racing.

xpndbl3

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get me in a car that is all setup and i can show you a thing or two. Last I checked no one lets me hop in a 45k car anymore and rip it around a parking lot....closest I come is my camaro in a straight line, but an RX7 i don't see being the proper thing to use either, typically it's 240ex or whatever those cars are. You need to have enough hp to snap the tires to swing the car over, or use an ebrake which doesn't work as well IMO.

ChevyRS-305

well his rx7 is prettty much stock on the outside besides new rims and a body kit, but he has done some things to the engine like new forged pistons and a twin turbo and bigger injectors and catback exhaust, stiff springs with new motor mounts...about 15 - 20K he spent and its making about 350-400 hp maybe not that much but close to 350 and all he does with it is take it to car shows i was going to stiffen it up and rip out everything inside and put up sheet metal panels and a roll cage and put some more goodie goodies on it....that is when i can aford it that stuff isnt cheep. and i was wanting to put this veilside body kit on it but its way way out of my leauge like 11K out of my leauge!

xpndbl3

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uhhh that's an auto....how you planning on banging another gear and kicking the rear end out?

CrazyHawaiian

Yeah Camaros can drift too! (Automatic no less)



What I would do is find out if there are Drifting Event Coordinators in your local area. Most Local/Amature drifting events have a special area just for beginners where you can learn. Some of them even have people that will ride along and teach you. If not, you can ride with someone that knows how to drift, then try on your own. Check out this forum for a listing of Event Coordinators:

http://www.driftingforums.com/phpBB2...pic.php?t=1473

If there are no local events you can still learn on your own. All you need to practice in the beginning is a wide open space to burn rubber, a few cones, and extra sets of rear tires. Set down 1 cone and practice doing donuts around the cone. When you can do consistent donuts then practice making the donuts larger and smaller. Spinouts are usually caused by improper countersteering and/or too much throttle. Throttle control is essential. When you're consistent at doing that, set up 2 cones and practice doing figgure 8's around the cones. When you can consistently do that you will be familiar with alot of concepts you need to understand to drift effectively. Countersteering, throttle control, understanding weight transfer when transitioning during the figgure 8's. Once you can do all that then you will be prepared for the real run, which is drifting on an actual roadcourse or road.

A very important aspect of drifting is the proper setup. Like any application, the car needs to be tuned to do what you want. A Posi/LSD differential is a must. An open differential can still be used but donuts are much much harder to do and transitions in both directions will not be consistent. Bottom line, not as much fun as Posi/LSD. The tuning aspect gets much deeper than that, read around on that forum I posted earlier. Side note, automatic transmission is a disadvantage but if you learn the proper techniques you can still initiate a slide. I don't know if I would consider drifting safe to be honest. I've seen more crashes than I can remember, people have even flipped their cars. That RX7 (FD3S) is pretty nice, those make great drift cars because they are well balanced (like the 240sx S13/S14). Contrary to what people think the sport of drifting is all about balance. Well good luck and have fun!!

ChevyRS-305

thats wat im talking about...that really helped thanks alot!

CYARS92

Rockford Speedway up north had several events last year open to anyone willing. Pretty humorous! Everything from Civics to Montes.

ChevyRS-305

do you think they will have them again?

5678TA

you do know that RX7's dont have pistons right??? they are the rotary type engines.. no pistons, only rotors.. and you shouldnt need to worry too much about horsepower.. i can honestly say i drifted a 91 ford ranger.. in second i might add.. 4.0L with 135k.. puts out about 150hp.. and about 200 torque.. with a 4" lift, 31x10.5's, 3.73 LSD..

CYARS92

Yeah, pretty sure. They had good turnouts.

ChevyRS-305

ummmmm i pretty sure every car has pistons dude. i never herd of a non piston engine

Bullydawg

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Rx7's are rotary. Look up a wankle motor on google.

xpndbl3

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88 350 tpi formula

iTrader: (9)

glad to see you are not going to use a thirdgen for drifting. they can do it it's not hard at all (even the lg4 cars can do it) just like it was already stated they are not balanced well for drifting. besides I would make sure you had rear disc brakes at a minimum if not the 9 bolt rear. (ever see a c-clip axle loose a c-clip?) drift on a stock 10 bolt rear drum car and you will. maybe not the first or third time or even the tenth but it will

MillerTime21

After seeing this, I think anything can be used for drifting.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...540141fd37.htm

ChevyRS-305

i think this is becoming a big joke to everyone

redcamaro83

actually everyone is right
with enough skill you can drift just about anything

wankels use a piston but it is only a piston in the wayit functions(it creates compression). it is not cylinder shaped in a conventional sense.


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http://auto.howstuffworks.com/rotary-engine4.htm for more info

fitbmxseries1

not sure where you go the impression of drifting being cheap! it takes a lot of money and work to set a car up properly. and buring up a set of tires each time you do it is very very costly! but you can drift about anything you want.... but its definaly not gunna work or look very good if you dont have the right car or proper skills! i would just go to a parking lot and see what can be done and dont kill your self!

tpimalibu

Maybe some good practice could be had in any car with a little snow or rain on a very large open parking lot.

Preferably behind a warehouse on a Sunday morning.

With very few street lights.

Really how much HP does it take to get a car in a sideways drift after a 1/2 inch of snow?

Although you may want to look into researching spellcheck and other technical advances before any more research on archaic drifting.

BlueZee28

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Gateway International Speedway has drifting events every so often during the summer. You're not too far away from there. While you're out checking the speedway, check out the local Fbody club too. www.fastlouis.com

ChevyRS-305

thanks i didnt know they had that in the summer. ill definatly go to that

BlueZee28

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Yea, they had NOPI at Gateway this past summer and one of the import shops in St Charles, MO brought out an R34 Skyline GTS, a 350Z turbo, and a few other nice cars and they were drifting the crap outta the road coarse at Gateway.

ChevyRS-305

yea i know about nopi, just i want like private lessons, or an entry level like intro to drifting or something. maybe one day i can get my formula D licence

soultron

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Practice Practice Practice.. you might want to check out the forums at driftSTL, they have a few events you might wanna try out, took my car to one of the midnight madness shindigs, it was lots of fun. Don't be embarassed to learn in front of an audience. No one is great off the bat.

carzar252

drifting is not cheap however it is mor fun than strait line. tires are your main thing and i would start with take offs if you can get your hands on some. then is all practice. i have been drifting my 88 camaro with a 305 and 5 speed for the last 4 or 5 years. the other thing that goes out is the lsd. some usfull stuff can be found on a dvd called, "The drift Bible" find it and watch it a million times. then watch anything u can find on drifting and then do it. i have competed in several drift show offs and it all comes down to the art of drifting. money and horse power ar just nice things to have.

tires are very necesary

CG_1985_Z28

i wana drift so bad... i bought a crappy 1994 camaro off my friend as a daily driver and this winter i couldent keep the thing strate and now i am hooked on sliding/fake drifting and am woundering how much it would take to acually drift

soultron

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So far I've spent a lot of cash, but most of that is suspension stuff and tires.
Since you are close you should check out http://www.beaverun.com

That's where I've done most of my drifting, I'm getting ok.
I love it, so fun to toss a car around and burn tires for a reason. well, more of a reason anyway.

5spdroc

Drifting..........what a waste, boring! Must be a kid thing. Kind of like skate boarding.

BlueZee28

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I suppose that's the mentality of any older adult these days...anything NEW must be boring and stupid, because it wasn't around when you were younger.

soultron

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Come back and say that when you can do it Dr.Cool.

tpimalibu

People started drifting the first time anything with a wheel hit some mud in a corner. It is hardly "NEW". Haven't you ever seen the Dukes of Hazzard? (Not the movie... )

Like everything else it has been reinvented by plastering the cars with more stickers.

Exactly how much horsepower do you gain from a Type R decal, anyways?

soultron

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If you can't add something constructive, why bother posting in the thread?
This guy (and some others) just want info. And Type R stickers don't add power unless it's a Honda and the sticker came on the car from the factory.

tpimalibu

Thanks for the advice. Forums are for sharing opinions and it seems we both added ours. Though yours ironically really didn't contribute.

BlueZee28

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I don't see how this contributes to anything other than the population of ignorant morons on this site:

tpimalibu

Forums are designed for opinions to be shared. "Ignorant morons" are the contributors to the forum that get excited when an opinion they fail to share is added. Best option would be to get back to the initial subject.

I was being honest when I mentioned practicing in the snow. Others recommended laying down obnoxious amounts of money. Perhaps I'm a little more frugal than others.

Regardless,I'd recommend parking lot autocrosses. I believe they can combine the best of drag racing with the entertainment of drifting, with the added benefit of an actual challenge to driving skill. Maybe even a way to improve on everyday driving skills, something everyone can appreciate.

CG_1985_Z28

drifting is awsome

CrazyHawaiian

You don't need alot of money to drift and you don't need snow to drift. All you need is a car you don't mind abusing, some tires, and the will/confidence to get it done. As an example, here's two pics of me drifting a $500 bone stock 91 RS with a L03 piece of crap motor, stock 700R4, and stock open differential 10 bolt piece of crap. The tires were free from the trash bin and the car was pretty crappy to drift. But it was cheap and fun, and when it was all said and done and my friend got drunk and lost the keys, I parted it out and made $100 profit.





But it should be noted that this is very different from competitive drifting. That does take money, good consistent tires, and alot of practice. Autocross does not usually allow drifting at their events as they are two different types of motorsports. To practice drifting you should goto a drifting event. If there are no drifting events, then you'll probably end up in some big parking lot or empty road late at night.

MaxPsiDriftTeam

I'd be glad to help. Plus i'm looking for drifters for my team, which would be great also...haha...get back to me on this and i'll see if i cant get u a spot on the team. my myspace url is www.myspace.com/downwiththeclown4lyfe7802 if you have one, you should add me...this is how i keep my team updated on parts giveaways, ect.

bitchin_camarAA

if you want to drift get a 240. they are by far the best car for drifting. you can learn how to drift with a bone stock s13 and there cheap. and if your really broke just chop the springs weld the diff and id start in some empty parking lot in the rain cause its easier and its real easy on your tires. its defently better if you have a manual tranny to but it can be done with auto its just shitty. also if theres any autocross events go to those it will help with drifting cause youll learn how to drive alot better and feel how your car handles..


you dont need alot of power when you start out. first thing is weld the diff or get a lsd. and get good suspension

bitchin_camarAA

ff drift?

soultron

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Old thread, and search a bit, these cars do fine.

bitchin_camarAA

anything rwd will drift. the only thing is how much time and money itll take it to drift good...

soultron

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nevermind the boring faceless internet battling, I like this car and it's fun, done.
State college? Do you know that drifting russian kid? Maybe you know about the oval?

8urv8

All u have to do is blip the steering wheel, with the right suspension setup, of course, and u can easily go into a controlled slide.