1TUF92Z

April 2, 2006. How 'bout some hamburgers, hot dogs, chips and sodas FREE. Dyno testing will be ready then. Just waiting for the weather to clear up and heat up a little bit. If anyone is interested, let me know.

Del and/or Eric is going to organize this activity. Well, whoever helps me organize it will get 3 dyno full for FREE

vindeezl

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Cool to hear the stuff is coming Bennie!

Can I buy a hot dog and get free dyno instead haha?

OUTATIME GTA

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holllaaaa.
You get that dyno going dude and I'll get the shiet organized.
I'm going to have my car back before then right?? haha.

How 'bout it folks?
It's a Sunday, meaning Bennie is closed and the place is all to yourselves for a dyno session.
$55 for 3 runs?
Lets get at least 10 people as a for sure.
If you can come up/down to Sac, post up and I'll make a list of those attending and wishing to dyno.

In order of definite -> maybes.

Interested to dyno:

1. OUTATIME GTA (Del)
2. vindeezl (Vin)
3. TraviZ (Travis)
4. 87tpi (Steve)
5. Roads88 (Bob)
6. vexter (Aaron)
7. kairles (Terrell/Mom?) (Corvette?)
8. souperman28 (Garrett)
9.
10.
11.
12. urbanhunter44 (Tony) maybe?
13. CoatHangerMan (Justin) maybe?

Interested in coming to hang out:

1. r1maniac (Kyle)
2. JMJ2003 (Elle)
3. Cali Z (Robby)
4. porkyzilla (Eric)
5. IROC350TPI (Ryan)
6. EllenKitten (Ellen)
7. wills83z28cfi (Will) maybe?
8.
9.
10.

kairles

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count me in

OUTATIME GTA

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I'll spread the word more after I talk to Bennie and know it's a done deal as we get closer.

Please specify if you will be just attending or actually dyno'n too so we have an idea how many.
I'll help get the food an drank together too.

porkyzilla

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alright ill finish those flyers now


maybe ill dyno the ferrari enzo instead of the red dragon

1TUF92Z

$55...........that must be some kind of an introductory rate for the first 10 to sign up. I found out Senator Ford in Florin Rd. is charging $150.00 for 3 pulls. And yes, exact same dyno. Geez..dealer's price at best. I'm going to call around and find out the ongoing rate for dyno testing.

1TUF92Z

I guess you'll be doing the cooking to then.....hahaha. Don't forget to bring a jar and write "tips" to cover your dyno run fee.

OUTATIME GTA

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You set the price bud and let me know.
I'm just going off what most places in the bay and a couple around here do it for.
We got it done in Concord for that gtg for 50ish and I know Synergy and Throttle Stop locally do it around $60.
I don't see why anybody would dish out $150, crazy dealers.

vindeezl

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OK, maybe I'll just pay the $55 and have someone else cook hahaha

1TUF92Z

I know $150 is alot of $$$. That's what made me get the program. I will most likely charge $75 for 3 runs if someone from the street just shows up for dyno. TGO members will get discount of course. Most, if not all dyno testing will be done after regular business hours. That's why I want to do the first GTG on sunday so noone should bother us. But, I know for sure some Joe Blows will show up there for a smog. hahaha....."no smog today sir but we can tell you how many horsies under the hood for $33.25 coupon price" hehehehe I see it already.

porkyzilla

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i vote for $55 on dyno day

$75 for joe schmoe day

OUTATIME GTA

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Yeah $75 is a fair set price for the average walk-in.
I don't remember what FFP quoted me a year or so ago, but Synergy just had a gtg and was doing them for $65.
So those who get in on a $55 day would be getting a deal.

Most of them use Dynojets's I think, with inflated #'s compared to a Mustang.

Getting big #'s on the dyno isn't a big deal to me since my GTA isn't a real dyno queen.
As long as it performs well at the track and on the street.
It's just nice to know what the #'s are at.
Tuning is where the real $ is at anyways.

87tpi

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I'm in for sure!Not too far and if it's on a weekend I'll have all day.I want some runs on the dyno.Is your car being worked on already Del? Hey Bennie,do you install sfc's?I am going to need mine welded in and don't think there's any compitent shops around here.

urbanhunter44

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I would come and get mine dynoed for $55 bucks

TMoNeE

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Let me know when this gets firmed up, I may be interested in coming up and doing a couple pulls.

Roads88

I just walkied in and talked to beenie. Asked him if his dyno was up and guees what.

Im in!!

Don't think i will pull any big numbers but would like to know.

87tpi

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Yeah,I don't think my #'s will be magnificent either but would like to have a base # to work off of.I should be in stock l98 range would be my guess.I will add a holley afpr and mess with the pressure then.

ratrodjon

Does he have a Mustang dyno? I know those dynojets are useless, ive personally seen one read 150 ft/lbs and about 100 horse difference in the same setup just done three weeks apart.

urbanhunter44

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I personally figure mustang dynos are better for tuning, but if you want numbers to compare to other people's setups, almost EVERYONE uses dynojet corrected numbers.

OUTATIME GTA

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Yeah, the above information is correct in regards to the dyno setup.
Bennie has a Mustang dyno, and if you're looking to see inflated #'s you might be dissapointed depending on your setup, because most folks go to Dynojets or the like and post those #'s.
I've heard and read only about a 5-10% difference depending on how they are calibrated I believe.
If you really want to know, don't go by a calc. just to make a big #, actually have it dyno'd by a notable place to compare after if you must.
In general lightly modded 3rd gens are not meant to be dyno queens and sport large #'s in comparison to LS1's.
Regardless, it's great for a baseline and a tool for tuning if used with the proper equipment, especially if you continue to dyno at the same place to compare in the future.

Yeah Bennie just got my ride last week.
Will probably be there awhile, but there's a lot going on it.
Good work takes time.

He doesn't do welding btw, but I know he and I can recommend a shop or two.

I'll get a list compiled of those possibly interested and confirm as the month goes on.
I won't spread the word to other forums until I know it's more definite.

List is up @ the top, if you want to be added or removed or whatever let me know.
I just guessed and assumed on some.

PHAT89TA

im going ot call in sick on sunday so i could go to sac raceway. Maybe on teh way there i'll stop by bennie shop. Don't need to get it dynoed already got it dynoed. 325rwhp 342rwtq

87tpi

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Not bad at all for a stock motor

PHAT89TA

ya im real happy with the times. I had a bad passenger side cat which is throwing a code, making my car run rich, but deleted the code right before the dyno. Newtech said i have a bad lifter, so my next mod is cam, lifter, roller rockers, pushrods,etc.

87tpi

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I'll challenge you at the track next yearBut I'll take you on a road coarse right now

PHAT89TA

lol no way in hell. u eat me alive on the road course. i just can't wait to see my car opps i mean ur car at the track with the 350. Hopefully by the time u get ur 350 i'll get my heads/cam. newtech dynoed an 02 ss with the same heads im getting with a slightly bigger cam and put down 460rwhp adn 420rwtq. Hopefully with my setup i'll get aroudn 450rwhp.

87tpi

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I don't know if it's the suspension mods planting better or the tune but this thing has crazy torque for a 305.I took out an l98 iroc the other day leaving summit.It pulls up high where my 87 cut off.I'm only gunna have 2 weeks after I get back to swap the rear,swap the fuel pump,Install the afpr and a couple of other things so I'll be busy getting this thing ready for the dyno.

PHAT89TA

when i had the holley afpr it seemed to like it at 48psi and it pulled alot better with it. get a holley unit for ur afpr, the plenum as already been knotched for clearence so all u have to do is stab it in. U changing fuel pump? I thought the whinning noise is from the vent line.

87tpi

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It still does it!I Have tried everything but I guess after doing it for so long it's just going to keep doing it.Sometimes it seems to stumble a bit and the idle drops but then goes back up.I think I'll swap in a Walbro.I am getting the holley,isn't the adjuster on the side of those.My bbk was on top and hit the plenum.

PHAT89TA

no the holley unit is on top. heres a pic when i had it on

87tpi

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And why the hell isn't it on here now I noticed the on e on here now looks new.

PHAT89TA

well i was having problems with surging. Bob (mysticwizard) and I were trying to diagnos the problem. This is when we found out 4 or my injectors were bad. So we replace them with svo injectors, the problem was still there. bob and I uninstalled the holley unit and put the stocker on and the problem went away. i sold the holley unit to mysticwizard and hes gonna put that on his 383. There was a post a while back about the problems with the holley unit and my situation was posted.

OUTATIME GTA

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Yeah, I've got one of those Holley units going on too.
Supposed to be one of the easier to adjust and reliable units.
The diaphragm is known to go bad sometimes.

Impressive dyno #'s Harjeet, but that's what I would expect from an LS1 with all those mods.
Seems like it should be at least high 12's with that trap and amount of power though.
I added you to the list as a maybe spectator btw.

I guess that's why I'm not impressed by big #'s on the dyno.
If you can't translate that to the track/street, it doesn't mean much in my eyes.

87tpi

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All he has is a lid.
I know what you mean about power and being able to use it.I would much rather have an awsome street machine than a full out straight line car.
Yeah,my bbk was acting up and would stumble bad at higher rpm

OUTATIME GTA

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Seemed like more than a lid to me from his sig.
Not real motor mods I guess, but you don't need them w/ an LS1.

As far as the power thing, yeah, I know my car will be a force to reckon with on the street/track and could still out perform cars with potentially more power.

PHAT89TA

well my numbers were done at newtech performance. He has a dynojet. All those mods? The only that that gives me mroe power is the lid. Acually im loosing hp cuz my ls2 flywheel is heavier then my stocker but not much. People seen a loss of 2 rwhp when converting to an ls2 flywheel/ ls7 clutch. I do have an ls6 block which dyno higher then ls1. Im just suprised that my torque number were that high. My friend with an 02 ss with longtubes, high flow cats, 3 inch y-pipe, gmmg exaust, lid, tune hit 333rwhp and 346rwtq. My friend also has an ls6 block.

87tpi

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You should let me drive it at the track someday
Hay Harjeet,what's a "dill"mod?

PHAT89TA

no problem. ur a better driver then i am anyways. Maybe u could help me get into 12's. on ls1's the clutch hydraulic line has a ristriction inside the line which wont let enough hydraulic fluid to ur slave cylinder so when u shift at high rpms u tend to loose hydraulic pressure and scratch the gears. The "drill mod" eliminates the ristriction in the line by drilling it out, which allow more hydraulic fluid to ur slave. I've done it and the petal feel feels alot better.

OUTATIME GTA

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haha, i didn't bother correcting that.
what's the main diff. between the 2 blocks?
yeah, your mph alone say you should be mid-high 12's.

87tpi

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I can drive the crap out of a stick though.You must not be too bad to hit that et on your 1st time out with it though.What was you 60ft again?

OUTATIME GTA

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I bet he spun a lot.
2.3 60'? heh.

PHAT89TA

the ls6 is a beefier block, which could handle more hp. And the ls6 block has a better oiling system. My 60' is 2.23 on balded street tires.

PHAT89TA

are the dyno done with a/f?

TraviZ

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hey del i cant believe you havnt written my name down. u should know better then that.

put me down for dynoing, if the iroc is not ready. then the z28 will take its place.

OUTATIME GTA

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haha, i figured, but i don't want to assume too much.
folks gotta speak up first.
so there ya are.
church.

Bigfosty

What time would you guys be starting? I might be in the area that weekend and might cruise through. I say might though, still very up in the air.

r1maniac

i am down its been awile since ive hung with the thirdgen crew....... iam down for a dyno of the gto if the price stays around 55 buckaroos!!!! lol but if not i will show up for sure.

87tpi

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Hey Bennie,I just modified the motor in my 4runner and would like to see what it puts down.At the end of the day after everybody has gotten their cars run could Put it on the dyno or do you have to have a certain program for it?If we can't then no big deal.I'll pay for 2 cars.

1TUF92Z

Unfornutately the dyno program does not provide the A/F. However I will be trying something else that should give us the A/F ratio. I'll keep you guys posted on that part.

1TUF92Z

No problem! We should be able to dyno any car. I will dyno my Excursion too. Gotta love that SMOKE from a diesel......hahaha