Failed smog. New EGR defective. Anyone else experience this?
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 616
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 1992 Z28 L98 G92
Engine: 5.7 350 B2L
Transmission: 700 R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Failed smog. New EGR defective. Anyone else experience this?
38,000 miles on car (a complete tune up was done on the car 2,000 miles ago). Required to go to a “STAR” station and failed due to high nox. Bought a new EGR from Autozone and replaced the part myself. Re-smogged and again failed with almost no change in high nox numbers.
Took the car to a “STAR” certified smog test and tune shop. The shop found the new EGR from Autozone to be defective. The shop replaced with their part and the car passed with no problems. I took the part back to Autozone and got a refund.
Have any of you guys encountered a new EGR valve to be defective? I just didn’t think the new one would be bad. Are some EGR brands better than others? I usually buy my parts from O’Reilly, but they were out of stock (BWD brand).
Took the car to a “STAR” certified smog test and tune shop. The shop found the new EGR from Autozone to be defective. The shop replaced with their part and the car passed with no problems. I took the part back to Autozone and got a refund.
Have any of you guys encountered a new EGR valve to be defective? I just didn’t think the new one would be bad. Are some EGR brands better than others? I usually buy my parts from O’Reilly, but they were out of stock (BWD brand).
#2
Supreme Member
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Antelope, CA
Posts: 3,400
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 89 IrocZ/17 LS 1LE
Engine: 383/LGX
Transmission: 400/TR-3160
Axle/Gears: 3.08/3.27
Re: Failed smog. New EGR defective. Anyone else experience this?
It happens. I got a defective EGR valve from Napa a couple years ago, and 2 TPS from Kragen.
#3
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 616
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 1992 Z28 L98 G92
Engine: 5.7 350 B2L
Transmission: 700 R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Re: Failed smog. New EGR defective. Anyone else experience this?
For my future experience, do you have any tips on how to verify the new valve will work prior to paying the smog shop? Thanks
#4
Supreme Member
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Antelope, CA
Posts: 3,400
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 89 IrocZ/17 LS 1LE
Engine: 383/LGX
Transmission: 400/TR-3160
Axle/Gears: 3.08/3.27
Re: Failed smog. New EGR defective. Anyone else experience this?
No mine was a drivability problem.
I think all you can do to test the valve is to see if it holds vacuum, and to make sure it moves when the vacuum in applied.
I think all you can do to test the valve is to see if it holds vacuum, and to make sure it moves when the vacuum in applied.
#6
Supreme Member
Re: Failed smog. New EGR defective. Anyone else experience this?
I guess every new part is going to need testing. They should start doing it when they pull it out of the box at the parts store.I hate that s### when it happens to me.
#7
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: vacaville,ca
Posts: 847
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes
on
3 Posts
Car: 1988 camaro z28,1997 camaro lt1
Engine: 355 afr 195 heads,tpis big mouth
Transmission: 700r-4 built by me 3-4 z pack
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: Failed smog. New EGR defective. Anyone else experience this?
They have a positive and negative egr
Trending Topics
#8
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: S.New Jersey
Posts: 709
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
Car: 89 GTA/90 Iroc Vert
Engine: 5.7/5.0L
Transmission: 700R4 x 2
Axle/Gears: 3.27/2.73
Re: Failed smog. New EGR defective. Anyone else experience this?
Yep just happened to me, EGR from NAPA, what a POS.
So are their MAFs - burned out in 14 months (warranted for 12).
The one they gave me for the GTA was the kind you had to put a washer in the bottom ... peene it in. It references the OEM EGR # and tell you what washer to peene in, so I thought this was genuine .... but the one I pulled out had a plunger like thing on the bottom ... was getting a 32 code for a year or more ... new one was a AC Delco.
What a pain. Anyway - better for now.
So are their MAFs - burned out in 14 months (warranted for 12).
The one they gave me for the GTA was the kind you had to put a washer in the bottom ... peene it in. It references the OEM EGR # and tell you what washer to peene in, so I thought this was genuine .... but the one I pulled out had a plunger like thing on the bottom ... was getting a 32 code for a year or more ... new one was a AC Delco.
What a pain. Anyway - better for now.
Last edited by Jersey89GTA; 10-11-2013 at 09:56 PM.
#10
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 616
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 1992 Z28 L98 G92
Engine: 5.7 350 B2L
Transmission: 700 R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Re: Failed smog. New EGR defective. Anyone else experience this?
Yep just happened to me, EGR from NAPA, what a POS.
So are their MAFs - burned out in 14 months (warranted for 12).
The one they gave me for the GTA was the kind you had to put a washer in the bottom ... peene it in. It references the OEM EGR # and tell you what washer to peene in, so I thought this was genuine .... but the one I pulled out had a plunger like thing on the bottom ... was getting a 32 code for a year or more ... new one was a AC Delco.
What a pain. Anyway - better for now.
So are their MAFs - burned out in 14 months (warranted for 12).
The one they gave me for the GTA was the kind you had to put a washer in the bottom ... peene it in. It references the OEM EGR # and tell you what washer to peene in, so I thought this was genuine .... but the one I pulled out had a plunger like thing on the bottom ... was getting a 32 code for a year or more ... new one was a AC Delco.
What a pain. Anyway - better for now.
I feel your pain when a product fails just out of warranty... especially by 2 months.
#11
Supreme Member
iTrader: (7)
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Santa Rosa, Cali
Posts: 1,160
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
Car: 1988 IROC 5.7 Money Pit
Engine: (being built; modified TPI ZZ4
Transmission: 2200 stall/ stage 3 700R4
Axle/Gears: freshened 3.27 in 9.bolt/
Re: Failed smog. New EGR defective. Anyone else experience this?
Usually I would share with someone not to purchase particular items such as an EGR valve from a vending machine type of parts supplier; to instead buy that type of item from a reliable parts house such as: NAPA Auto. However, maybe I need to do some research to check if NAPA has been cutting corners in the past couple years.
I have experienced issues with our Camaro's that connect with our car's having been such early computer run systems that sometimes only AC Delco parts will seem to work.
What an awful thing for you to have to replace, given that it's buried; with all the TPI gaskets that need to reseal tightly once you put it all back together. Thanks for posting this! Nitro-Nicky
I have experienced issues with our Camaro's that connect with our car's having been such early computer run systems that sometimes only AC Delco parts will seem to work.
What an awful thing for you to have to replace, given that it's buried; with all the TPI gaskets that need to reseal tightly once you put it all back together. Thanks for posting this! Nitro-Nicky
#12
Supreme Member
iTrader: (25)
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Manteca,California. Nor Cal.
Posts: 7,260
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes
on
5 Posts
Car: SOLD IT. Mopar guy only now.
Engine: gone
Transmission: gone
Axle/Gears: gone
Re: Failed smog. New EGR defective. Anyone else experience this?
i prefer to not install anything but OEM egr's but sometimes i have to. i'd bet the shop installed an OEM AC Delco egr.
#13
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: S.New Jersey
Posts: 709
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
Car: 89 GTA/90 Iroc Vert
Engine: 5.7/5.0L
Transmission: 700R4 x 2
Axle/Gears: 3.27/2.73
Re: Failed smog. New EGR defective. Anyone else experience this?
The Failed EGR and MAF were both from NAPA.
Sometimes I get AC delco stuff from them. MAF was a Bosch remanufactured item. New EGR is a AC Delco....
Test EGR, squeeze the plunger up thru the bottom holes and put finger over vacuum hose hole, if the plunger drop w/finger over hole, then its no good, diaphraim failed. Here a utube vid ..
Sometimes I get AC delco stuff from them. MAF was a Bosch remanufactured item. New EGR is a AC Delco....
Test EGR, squeeze the plunger up thru the bottom holes and put finger over vacuum hose hole, if the plunger drop w/finger over hole, then its no good, diaphraim failed. Here a utube vid ..
#14
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 616
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 1992 Z28 L98 G92
Engine: 5.7 350 B2L
Transmission: 700 R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Re: Failed smog. New EGR defective. Anyone else experience this?
The shop I went to didn't use AC DELCO, but he wouldn't tell me which brand he used. I think he felt like I wouldn't use him again if I knew where he got his parts from
James
#15
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 616
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 1992 Z28 L98 G92
Engine: 5.7 350 B2L
Transmission: 700 R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Re: Failed smog. New EGR defective. Anyone else experience this?
Thanks for the video Jersey89GTA. I did exactly what the video shows prior to installing the EGR from Autozone. The unit failed under load. I don't have any idea how I would test this at home?
James
James
#16
Supreme Member
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: sacramento, ca USA
Posts: 2,789
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 89 iroc-z 5.7tpi 350,
Engine: 5.7tpi 350,
Transmission: T-56 fully built WOOHOO
Re: Failed smog. New EGR defective. Anyone else experience this?
on egr valves ac delco or NOS is the only way to go. the aftermarket universal ones are junk they could be working and still not cause it to pass. if its an egr valve i go oe at the shop no aftermarket unless thats all thats available.
#17
Member
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: CA
Posts: 236
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 92 RS
Engine: 305 TBI
Re: Failed smog. New EGR defective. Anyone else experience this?
I had 2 out of 2 fuel pump / cooling fan relays go bad from Oreilly. The water pump I bought from Oreilly has a slow leak that appeared only a few months after installing it. Thermostat I bought from Oreilly's got stuck. Lesson learned.. I don't buy parts from Oreilly or Autozone or any big box store. I get only AC Delco and go straight to a real parts store if I need it that day. If I can wait, I get it from rockauto.com since the prices are so good. In general, it seems anywhere online is much cheaper than in a store.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post