Ukraine Train

do you find your ride too soft, too hard, or just right? what springs do you have? i'm a bit confused because i thought that ws6 and iroc springs are supposed to be pretty stiff (550lb/in?) but then the moog replacements are 700lb/in, which i would think is bone jarring, or are the moog ones progressive rate and therefore aren't too stiff?

also, how many coils does an iroc or ws6 spring have? the ones from my LT have 8.5 but i suspect the stiff springs have less for a tad lower ride height. i was thinking of getting iroc/ws6 springs with 550lb/in spring rate and cutting a half coil to lower ride height a little but it will also increase spring rate and i dont want it to be too stiff

RB83L69

I have the Moog 700 and whatever lbs/in rate ones, they're fine. I also have the Moog CC635 rears, also work just fine. The car sits at approximately stock ride height and rake. The fronts are linear, the rears are progressive. I have stock Monroe front struts (require frequent replacement) and Edelbrock rear shocks, and 34/24 sway bars. I highly recommend this combo. It is not particularly stiff at all. The car is also well reinforced, with SFcs, a wonder bar, and lots of its spot welds augmented by welding all along the seam.

sllt1776

i have the stock springs on my iroc. i cut the fronts alittle too. i think it's firmer but not harsh at all. i like it the way it is.

jcurrieirocz

Im supposed to be getting my stock iroc springs removed and the set of Dropzone lowering springs I got slaped in. I tryed to do it myself but I needed air to get my b.joint loose,,,it was in there too good. So Im getting a guy I know to do the swap on monday or so,,,,Il have pics of my old springs around then.

ozzga

stock springs, kyb struts and shocks. handles awesome, but i must say the ride was a little harsh at first. now that i'm used to it, when i'm in another car it feels too soft. and when driving another car i have the tendency to take turns too fast for that particular car and screeching the tires cuz i'm so used to the iroc's handling. i wouldn't go too much stiffer though, too many potholes, speedbumps and such around.

84 1LE

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IROC FRONT SPRING RATE IS 548in LBS.Z28s ARE THE SAME.ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THE IROC SPRINGS ARE (REJECTED) Z28 SPRINGS BECAUSE THEY ARE 1/2in TOO SHORT.THATS WHY IROCS SIT LOWER THAN Z28s FROM THE FACTORY. Rr SRINGRS ARE RATED AT 130in LBS FOR ALL F-BODYs (Ive READ THAT SOMEWHERE).GTAs WITH THE WS6 OPTION USE A SOFTER RATE.ABOUT 500in LBS IN FRONT.RrS AGAIN ARE THE SAME RATE 130.CUTTING 1/2 COIL WILL GIVE YOU ABOUT 10% INCREASE IN SPRING RATE.

Ukraine Train

easy on the CAPS man, my eyes hurt heh. i kinda find it hard to believe iroc springs were made by "accident", where did you hear that? it's not like it's very hard to cut coil stock the same way every time. and all rear springs are not the same spring rate or height; if they were then there wouldn't be different codes for different springs.

84 1LE

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I never said they were maid by accident.whenever you mass produce something there is going to be variances in the product.Because of this not all springs are going to be exactly the same.Some turn out shorter,some taller.Whatever the case these were not used on z28s.so GM decided used the shorter ones on the iroc because they didnt know what to do with the shorter ones until the iroc was produced.I have read this in several manuals & how to/camaro books.Ill try to find one of these articles.As far as the spring rates being the same.What i meant is if the vechicle is H.Top vs say a convertible or a rs.irocs have the same rates ,conv would have the same,but differ from a rs or a v6 would differ from a V8 or 4cyn etc.here is a paragraf(2nd)from one book by(brooklands books)titled hi perf camaros 82-88).this doesnt get to involved about the subject.i have better articles about this subject.

84 1LE

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I never said they were made by accident.whenever something is mass produced there will be variances in quality.because of this some springs turned out shorter,some taller.gm decided to use the shorter ones on irocs.ive got several articles on this mostly from camaro how to manuals.if i find one ill post it.as for the rates being the same what i meant by this was irocs with a v8 h.top will have the same springs vs say an iroc conv w/ a v8 or a rs conv w/ a v8 or v6 and so on.there is a (page 50 2nd paragraf) book by brooklands books titled(high perfmance camaros 82-88).i crop most of the page but its still too big to post.

Matthew91-Z28

I fricking love my Eibach pro-kit. Helluva lot thicker/stiffer ride than previous stock Z28 (F41) springs. Dropped my ride about 1inch. I highly recommend them. I went with some autozone struts/shocks b/c of $$ issues. The car handled significantly better, but its VERY rough around pot-holes, brick streets, etc. Definately a kidney buster but I much better motoring experience!

91Z28-350

I have the pro-kit with Bilstein shocks. The ride is fine for me, not harsh at all. I've been in rides that are way stiffer.

v8unleashed

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stock ws6.......so long as the road is smooth i love it, but if there are potholes youd better have a mouthguard and hang the f**k on

Tom Keliher

Intrax springs are the ****! :hail:

I've had WS6; Suspension Techniques; Jamex; and now Intrax........ never looking back!

WildmanDRL

My stock WS6 springs are stiff enough to make me consider road conditions whenever I go anywhere. I drive 5mi. out of the way to work to stay off bad roads. The cornering ability makes it all worthwhile, though. The rear springs do seem a little soft, but at 150k+ I'd say thats due to wear.

If you have good roads in your area, go for the stiff ones.

chitowncruiser

I have a 1992 Firebird and just put on 2002 WS6 rear springs on it.......the ride is great having brand new springs on the rear.....my old ones made my car look like a low rider in the back......am very happy with the new ones........

ebmiller88

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I have the Pro-Kit with KYBs and love it. Real firm but very drivable. I will be replacing the bushings and ball joints in my RS soon and I will probably cut 1/3 coil just to sit it down a tad.

Not to flame, but I have a very hard time believing that Iroc springs were "rejected Z28 springs". The performance package gets a lower quality part? I don't think so. If that was the case there would be no spring rate differences. Besides, the Irocs WERE Z28s. GM just had the Iroc series sponsorship at the time.

Ed

russkull84

I also have the pro-kit with bilsteins and the ride is VERY tolerable and its handling is insanely improved! I highly recommend this simple setup.

z 28 jari

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How is it pro-kit users,did rear suspension bottoms easily at yours f-bodies?I ask because at my z-28 does so.

Jekyll & Hyde

Are you running Pro-Kit on the front too? I have seen the pictures of your car, and I thought that the pro-kit doesn't sit that low.

BMmonteSS

I would like to add the the ride quality has alot to do with shock valving. Thats one of the reasons the irocs rode so much harsher than the z-28's they had stiffer valving.