TBI Throttle Body Injection discussion and questions. L03/CFI tech and other performance enhancements.

Prestart Fuel??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-13-2004, 07:52 PM
  #1  
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
 
acescarrsRS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Kaneohe,HI
Posts: 1,185
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 89 RS
Engine: 383 in building process
Transmission: 700r4
Prestart Fuel??

Ok, I'm not sure how to explain this but I'll do my best. First of all, my car just died on me one day & I've been tracing the problem ever since. So far I've got it running but it smokes reeeaaaally bad, smells of fuel, & won't idle. Now I just noticed this today. Are the injectors suppose to spray some fuel when you turn on the key but don't start it? When I turn my key on the passenger side injector kinda sprays a decent amount of fuel out. And in one instance, it kept pouring out for about 3 seconds. Could this be a regulator problem? I don't know how to search for this problem so if it's been discussed before just let me know. Any thoughts on this would be great. Thanks
Old 08-13-2004, 08:06 PM
  #2  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (1)
 
BronYrAur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 1,843
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Car: 91 Camaro RS Convertible
Engine: 305 TBI
Transmission: 5-Speed
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Sounds like a bad leaky injector. Check out a junkyard and pick up a couple spare injectors and try them.
Old 08-13-2004, 08:30 PM
  #3  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (2)
 
dimented24x7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moorestown, NJ
Posts: 9,962
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Car: 88 Camaro SC
Engine: SFI'd 350
Transmission: TKO 500
Axle/Gears: 9-bolt w/ 3.23's
Could also be caused by a short to ground on the negative switched side. This would cause the injector to say open as it would essentially be on.
Old 08-13-2004, 08:55 PM
  #4  
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
 
acescarrsRS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Kaneohe,HI
Posts: 1,185
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 89 RS
Engine: 383 in building process
Transmission: 700r4
Wow! Thanks for the quick replies guys.

Sounds like a bad leaky injector. Check out a junkyard and pick up a couple spare injectors and try them.
Yeah, I'm leaning towards that. I put my stock regulator assembly back in to no avail. (I had the GM VAFPR one in)

Could also be caused by a short to ground on the negative switched side. This would cause the injector to say open as it would essentially be on.
Sounds like a possibility also. I'm an electrical idiot so any help on how to test for that would be great. I'm assuming maybe a continuity type of test to ground from a certain wire maybe? Please let me know.
Old 08-26-2004, 08:57 PM
  #5  
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
 
acescarrsRS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Kaneohe,HI
Posts: 1,185
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 89 RS
Engine: 383 in building process
Transmission: 700r4
Just a quick update. I'm gonna get some used injectors to see if my theory is correct on the "leaky injector" being the problem.(thanks for the parts CrazyHawaiian!) I'll let you guys know how everything goes. I'm gonna probably do it this coming weekend.
Wish me luck!
Old 08-26-2004, 11:19 PM
  #6  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (1)
 
Pablo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Posts: 3,257
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 3 Posts
Car: Turbo Buick
Engine: 3.8 V6
I would wager that the o ring sealing the injector in the pod is shot. TBI injectors rarely go bad themselves
Old 08-26-2004, 11:34 PM
  #7  
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
 
acescarrsRS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Kaneohe,HI
Posts: 1,185
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 89 RS
Engine: 383 in building process
Transmission: 700r4
o ring is new. Unless I got a bad o ring or I pinched it somehow. I'll be sure to check that when I swap them out
Old 09-08-2004, 11:49 PM
  #8  
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
 
acescarrsRS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Kaneohe,HI
Posts: 1,185
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 89 RS
Engine: 383 in building process
Transmission: 700r4
The Car Is Running!!!!!

Guess what guys. The injector was my problem. When I took out the old injectors I double checked all the o rings, top & bottom ones, & everything checked out fine. I then installed the injectors that I got from CrazyHawaiian. Turned the key to on, heard the fuel pump energize, & no fuel squirted out of either injector. I knew that my problems were solved right at this point. Cranked the car up & Vrooooooooomm! It started right up & purred like a kitten. I'm still smoking a lot & I'm hoping that it's from all the excess fuel that was dumping into the motor from the leaky injector just burning off.
I just wanna thank everyone for their help & opinions & once again, my thanks go out to Shawn for the injectors.
Old 09-24-2004, 05:07 AM
  #9  
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
 
acescarrsRS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Kaneohe,HI
Posts: 1,185
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 89 RS
Engine: 383 in building process
Transmission: 700r4
Bad news! The car is running all messed up again. After the test run I took around the block, the car started to surge at idle. I started it up the next day & it started acting strange. It fires right up & idles normal for the first 10-30 seconds. Then after that, it starts to idle a little erratic, & it also sounds like it's missing a little cause I hear popping sounds out of the exhaust almost like mini backfires.

So far I have changed the ignition module & egr valve. I also checked for any trouble codes & none come up.

When I move the car, it kinda misses & slightly backfires. Any thoughts on what would cause this? Could a faulty IAC motor do this? Any help would be great. Thanks.
Old 09-25-2004, 09:38 PM
  #10  
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
 
acescarrsRS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Kaneohe,HI
Posts: 1,185
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 89 RS
Engine: 383 in building process
Transmission: 700r4
ttt
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
92camaroJoe
TBI
32
07-29-2023 07:57 PM
Glowsock
Tech / General Engine
11
08-02-2020 07:36 PM
Ron U.S.M.C.
Cooling
5
09-07-2015 08:38 AM
beachrodder
Tech / General Engine
7
08-25-2015 08:05 AM
92camaroJoe
Tech / General Engine
6
08-13-2015 06:07 AM



Quick Reply: Prestart Fuel??



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:46 AM.