chevyboy07 91

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Pablo

iTrader: (1)

yeah a couple guys on here have em, you pretty much have three choices, whipple, centrifugal, or roots


Id personally go with the roots that weiand makes for several reasons

chevyboy07 91

Hey Pablo,
Elaborate on your prefrence. And feel free to comment on the others too. I'm considering a few things.

NJ SPEEDER

roots: old school style that sits on top of the engine, the kind you see with the big *** bug catchers on them. advantage: boost comes on almost instant creating a lot of low end power, great for a motor that won't be spun up too much, disadvantage: if you try to spin one up it loses efficiency faster than a florida election board
centrafugal: hangs off the side of the motor usually, vortech, paxton, powerdyne......you get the idea. advantage: much more efficient than a roots blower at racing rpm's. disadvantage: power is not asd instant because it has to pressurize some length of tubing before it can start to build pressure in the manifold where you want it, they also tend to cost a bit more and can be a real PIA to install compared to a whipple or roots style blower.
whipple: sit on the motor sort of. advantage: the design allows for good everyday everywhere mid range power. it will come on quicker than a centrafugal and spin up more efficietly than a roots. advantage: just as easy as a roots type blower to install and they tend to generate the least heat in the intake charge because they accelerate air into the manifold instead of compressing it into the manifold like other blowers. disadvantage: there is not as much tech out there for these blowers only because the other 2 types are so much more popular, also to get an appropriate kit matched up to a modified engine can cost bigg bucks.

hope this helps
tim

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91 Camaro RS-LO3,Auto.
14.301 @ 94.39mph
Edlebrock TES Headers, Cat Eliminator Pipe, Borla Adjustable Cat Back,Marche Pulleys, HyperTech Chip,Transgo Shift Kit,B&M Convertor(2000stall), 36mm Front 25mm Rear Sway Bars, Eibach Pro Kit Springs, Bilstein Shocks and Struts, Steve Spohn Rear Rig( all rod ends), Poly Front Bushings, Baer Track Kit Front Brakes W/ Baer Disc Rears, 17x9 4th Gen SS Wheels, Ported TB, 350 Injectors, Edlebrock Performer TBI Intake, Performer Heads, 1.6 Roller Tipped Rockers

91Bird305

How bought listing some times with them TBI BLOWERS.

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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI (ZZ5 summer of "01")
ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-Accel Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone
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Pablo

iTrader: (1)

I like the roots for those reasons mentioned and above all PRICE

they blow away the competion in that aspect

there is more to it though and that is since the tbi sits on top of the blower its not as succeptible to fuel condensation due to boost coming on, this is one aspect in which port injection blows tbi and carburetion out of the water and that is the use of a centrifugal charger on them, you can have much cooler air coming in and not have problems like you do with fuel puddling and causign really bad distribution problems.. with tbi youll probably want more heat in the intake charge to keep things suspended. the second reason.. and i might be off base on this since ive never tuned for one, is that with a blow through unit like a centrifugal, the map sensor is ALWAYs reading 100kpa pressure since we do not have a 2 bar map sensor nor do we have any where to tune past 100kpa in the chip.. so essentially you are running at the far right of your prom tables at all times, most people convert to a sy/ty code that has the two bar feature (reads vacuum and positive pressure or beyond atmospheric)

if you went so far as to do that youd probably just be further ahead to go with port injection that could take advantage of the centrifugal more effectively anyways.

Thats why i think a roots is a better deal for a tbi motor, easier, cheaper, and cmon... the whine and just the sheer brutality of popping the hood and having a big roots on top also has something to do with it

Ive heard Shane Buss' car and that thing has a hellacious sound to it, like the high pitched howl a really strong gust of wind makes in a thunderstorm but constantly

my 2 cents

Pablo

Pablo

iTrader: (1)

and some more of what i know (correct me if im wrong ive only researched this a limited amount)
the whipple is a great blower in that its really efficient and it is actually a TRUE compressor

roots and centrifugals are just air stackers so to speak


the thing is, that the output of a whipple while being very efficient cant be intercooled since it sits like a roots on the engine, whereas a centrifugal unit can be so in the end, the centrifugal might end up being as efficient or atleast generating the same or more amount of boost with the same or lower temperature.. i dont know about how much HP it robs in the end

i believe another problem with the whipple is that it wont support that much power, i believe the most boost youll find is like 6-8 psi and just dont flow enough air in general for anything real mean

To top it off, the things cost an arm and a leg

just sharing the little bit i remember from what ive read

Scott C

I vote for the roots type also. I have a small one on my Grand Prix GTP and its nuts! Their cheap, look cool and make power.

I do know that their was a Whipple kit available for TBI trucks. It mounted the TB at an angle at the back of the supercharger. I'm not sure if it would fit a f-body as far as hood clearance goes.

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'92 RS, ZZ4 10:1 350, Edelbrock 6085 heads, Crane 208/214 467/482 cam, GM/LT4 1.6 true roller rockers, Holley Projection TBI intake, Holley 670 TBI, SLP/Jet-Hot 1-5/8" headers, Catco 3" cat, Flowmaster 3" catback, Hughes 2500 stall converter, stock 700R4, Auburn Pro posi w/3.42, 17x9" SS rims w/BFG tires, Medium Quasar Blue w/white SS stripes, 48,000 miles....

GhoSSt

iTrader: (1)

I've been looking at this for about a week now and there is NO ONE that makes a blower kit (roots style) for a TBI car that I can find. Lots of em for trucks. So if anyone finds one, I'd like to know. I'd really like to know if someone actually has DONE one. The question is if A) can TBI can feed enough fuel to prevent detonation and B) how much EMC/Timing work would it take to get there?



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Kelly 'GhoSSt' Rosato
1996 Impala SS, 383 LT4 (14.65 up here, 13.24 lower)
1984 Firebird, +.060 350 (Vortech Heads, HOT Cam, and schtuff)
1993 Caprice, 5.7 TBI (stock . . . FOR NOW)

"And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge? Revenge. The villany you
teach me, I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the
instruction."

Shylock in Act III, Scene I of 'Merchant of Venice' by William Shakespeare

Eggplant Jeff

I've been considering a roots (when I get the money :-)). As far as availablilty... just get a carb one and mount your TB on it with an adapter. Just like you would for a carb intake manifold. Weiand makes a pro-street I think they call it that looks very doable. Around $1400 or so from summit. Keep in mind that with a roots, you'll need either a hood scoop or a 5 inch cowl (or just don't ever close your hood). I think a hood scoop with a roots underneath would look VERY nice, only disadvantage being the noise. My car is a daily driver so I'm not sure I want the blower whine always.

Oh yeah and I do have to pass emissions. Not sure what the guy'd say when he saw the blower.

[This message has been edited by Eggplant Jeff (edited November 27, 2000).]

NJ SPEEDER

i know b&m used to have a kit just for tbi. it was a 144 street charger with an adapter plate. holley owns them now, so you may wanna give their techies a call.

lata
tim

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91 Camaro RS-LO3,Auto.
14.301 @ 94.39mph
The car is going street strip for next season. 13's here i come!!!!!
Edlebrock TES Headers, Cat Eliminator Pipe, Borla Adjustable Cat Back,Marche Pulleys, HyperTech Chip,Transgo Shift Kit,B&M Convertor(2000stall),Steve Spohn Rear Rig( all rod ends), Poly Front Bushings,Ported TB, 350 Injectors, Edlebrock Performer TBI Intake, Performer Heads, 1.6 Roller Tipped Rockers

NJ SPEEDER

http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLin...-144_CSBE.html

this is the link for holley's site. the blower is available in a satin or polished finish.

lata
tim

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91 Camaro RS-LO3,Auto.
14.301 @ 94.39mph
The car is going street strip for next season. 13's here i come!!!!!
Edlebrock TES Headers, Cat Eliminator Pipe, Borla Adjustable Cat Back,Marche Pulleys, HyperTech Chip,Transgo Shift Kit,B&M Convertor(2000stall),Steve Spohn Rear Rig( all rod ends), Poly Front Bushings,Ported TB, 350 Injectors, Edlebrock Performer TBI Intake, Performer Heads, 1.6 Roller Tipped Rockers

Tas

roots will be cheapest but whipple can mount the TBI on the back of the blower for lower profile.

GhoSSt

iTrader: (1)

Well, I spoke to Holley this morning and their suck a$$ tech support would only say that the 77-144CSBE kit was for TRUCKS only. It probably works ok, but they sure were no help. The problem is that even with a LITTLE engine work, TBI seems to max out at about 350hp or so. Tons of torque, but the TBI unit can't flow enough fuel to support anymore. So you have SERIOUS issues with detonation raising their ugly little heads. As for the whipple unit. It mounts the TBI at the back... RIGHT into the firewall. Bad on an F-body, terrible on a Bbody because of the retarded cowl. Be cool ifin it were a pickemuptruk.

Jeez.. I'm gonna cry.


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Kelly 'GhoSSt' Rosato
1996 Impala SS, 383 LT4 (14.65 up here, 13.24 lower)
1984 Firebird, +.060 350 (Vortech Heads, HOT Cam, and schtuff)
1993 Caprice, 5.7 TBI (stock . . . FOR NOW)

"And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge? Revenge. The villany you
teach me, I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the
instruction."

Shylock in Act III, Scene I of 'Merchant of Venice' by William Shakespeare

Tas

the whipple can also have the TBI on top. I dunno if it would be shorter than the same stetup using roots. It probably depened of the cu.in. of the roots blower.

Pablo

iTrader: (1)

Shane used the weiand listed for 86 chevy pickups (in jegs or summit) fit like a glove, he says it can fit under a cowl hood

as for what the tbi can support fuel wise, consider that big block injectors can handle some pretty high pressure beyond what hp i think that blower can realistically support, and the BBc TB isnt so small, 670 cfm, i even compared the airflow area to my carter AFB 625 and its substantially bigger than that if you dont want to believe the numbers

theres always the 4 barrel tbi units too, you can get a 900 cfm unit and run it off your ecm but youll need to do something about the extra injectors i think maybe another set of injector drivers which would be easy for any EE type

NJ SPEEDER

i shoulda warned ya about holley's tech guys. they are known for being a bit slow.
i took a good look at this unit when b&m was still making it themselves and their tech guys all told me that the reasong they don't recomend the kit to people with 305's is because of the boost. the kit is designed to make 6-8 lbs for the volume of a 350cid motor, that is like getting 6.8 - 9.1 psi to a 305, and they think that 9 psi is too much for a stock set up. you can get around this by modding your factory tbi with bigger injectors and doing the ultimate tbi treatment to the body. other than that i would just pull out some initial timing just to keep things happy until i can get a custom chip made.
this is starting to sound like too good an idea, my car may be going really fast by the end of next year

lata
tim

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91 Camaro RS-LO3,Auto.
14.301 @ 94.39mph
The car is going street strip for next season. 13's here i come!!!!!
Edlebrock TES Headers, Cat Eliminator Pipe, Borla Adjustable Cat Back,Marche Pulleys, HyperTech Chip,Transgo Shift Kit,B&M Convertor(2000stall),Steve Spohn Rear Rig( all rod ends), Poly Front Bushings,Ported TB, 350 Injectors, Edlebrock Performer TBI Intake, Performer Heads, 1.6 Roller Tipped Rockers

GhoSSt

iTrader: (1)

Well, I kinda knew that in the first 30 seconds. I wonder what would happen if anyone that was actually a car ENTHUSIAST were to work for them. I cannot for the life of me, see any reason why the blower setup would not work. There are issues with MAYBE the throttle cable, TV cable and harness being a little short and the fuel delivery problem, (assuming that running the 454 tbi setup at high pressure won't flambe the car), but I think its VERY doable. Edelbrock apparently supplies a new fuel pump (higher pressure I suppose) and a custom chip (yawn I bet) to make it all work. But unless you can get some serious boost going, I'll stick to big cubes for now.

Kelly 'GhoSSt' Rosato

[This message has been edited by GhoSSt (edited November 28, 2000).]

JPrevost

Does this look like a good solution for cheap blown power? Too bad I have no idea where to get that air cleaner.
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, Jon (91 RS too many mods to list)

[This message has been edited by JPrevost (edited November 30, 2000).]

BLUE92RS

Does anyone make a supercharger or blower that will fit under a stock hood??

snflupigus

that aircleaner probably comes with that specific blower, whoevermakes it. and there right above you 92blue is a blower that fits under a stock hood.

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Open Element Tech Article

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305 TBI,Open Element,K&N 14x3,Hypertech Stage I,160 Deg. Thermostat,454 GM TBI

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GhoSSt

iTrader: (1)

Well, since you failed to tell us how MUCH, or who MAKES it or any other information, we really can't answer that, can we? And to boot, your web site crashes at the opening page.

Kelly 'GhoSSt' Rosato

PS: BTW, is there a belt on that pulley?

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chevyboy07 91

Holy Crap!!!!!!!!!!>>>>>>>>>>That looks f*cking sweet. OK>>>>>>>>>>It's time for a blower TBI buds. I'm ordering this weekend. Do you have the sight where you found that pic?????? I need to get in contact w/ the owner if possible.

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Alex (AKA chevyboy) '91 RS 327 stroker, trans-go shift kit>> manual valve body, cat-delete, MSD (ignition, coil, 2-step, timing retard/ advance),Flowmaster, complete Edelbrock suspension including shocks, struts and lowering springs. CRAGAR drag wheels. Lowered 2.25" in front and 1.5" in rear....Best E/T 12.84 @109 mph...(got spray?)plus more!!

91Bird305

I think maybe u should contact the person that actually DID THE MOD, instead of people saying, "Yeah man do it, that would be sweet and it will work great!"

There is probably a sh*t load of stuff u have to do in order to make everything work and get the full potential out of that blower. Probably the same price for a new engine. Is it worth it? Find times too with these people with blowers. I know there is a guy on here that has one and he runs a 14.56 or somethin. Pretty high ET for a engine with a blower on it.

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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI (ZZ5 summer of "01")
ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-MSD Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone
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chevyboy07 91

Read my sig>>>>>>p.s. I'm at a 13.8 on motor and hit a 12.84 juiced.

chevyboy07 91

sig

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Alex (AKA chevyboy) '91 RS 327 stroker, trans-go shift kit>> manual valve body, cat-delete, MSD (ignition, coil, 2-step, timing retard/ advance),Flowmaster, complete Edelbrock suspension including shocks, struts and lowering springs. CRAGAR drag wheels. Lowered 2.25" in front and 1.5" in rear....Best E/T 12.84 @109 mph...(got spray?)plus more!!

91Bird305

What does that have to do with the topic here? Nice times/Ride and everything though.

chevyboy07 91

It has to do w/ your suggestion on a new engine. My engine IS a new/fresh 327 and I'm content w/ the performance and reliability *knock on wood*. So, I'm just gonna help it out a little and call it quits on this car. It's time for a first gen. My goal in the next 10 years or so is to have a respectable Camaro of every generation. Then, it's on to the Potiacs of the 60's>>>>GTO's, Chevelles, etc.
Later

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Alex (AKA chevyboy) '91 RS 327 stroker, trans-go shift kit>> manual valve body, cat-delete, MSD (ignition, coil, 2-step, timing retard/ advance),Flowmaster, complete Edelbrock suspension including shocks, struts and lowering springs. CRAGAR drag wheels. Lowered 2.25" in front and 1.5" in rear....Best E/T 12.84 @109 mph...(got spray?)plus more!!

Pablo

iTrader: (1)

theres no rationalizing with 91bird305, he thinks a blower on even the weakest of stock motors should transform it into a 12 second screamer. Fact is LO3s are saddled with about the worst possible combination and a blower can only do so much. That goes out the window on your setup alex

91Bird305

Where did I say that? I said the exact opposite of what you said.

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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI (ZZ5 summer of "01")
ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-MSD Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone
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BLUE92RS

They have them for 1990-95 gm 305 tbi trucks will that work??? They also have them for the tpi. Check it out and let me know.
http://www.carrollsupercharging.com/index2.html

BLUE92RS

They are a little costly though. But in the picture it looks just like are engines and it looks like it would fir perfect.
http://www.carrollsupercharging.com/...50s_engine.gif

BLUE92RS

GhoSSt

iTrader: (1)

You can buy that same kit directly from Vortech at a savings of over 1000.00.
But even then, I'm not positive that it will fit L03's. I've got to research the bracket issues more.

Kelly Rosato

1989CamaroRs

thats alot of money for an extra 85 horses and 75ftpnds of tork

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Edelbrock TES Headers, High Flow Cat, Edelbrock Catback, SSM Subframe Connectors

BLUE92RS

Yeah i know plus i just talked to the vortech tech people and they said that it wouldnt fit

A while back i remember one of the companies telling me a company that did make them and it was around 2000 but i cant remember ill keep looking though.

chevyboy07 91

Ohh geesh>>>>>once again, everyone is mis-interpretting what the other has to say. I can't believe the crap (not towards me) but towards others that goes on on this board.
Never mind the blower issue guys.
Later

snflupigus

You asked for who knew about blower setups for tbi's. you got some pics and links. then some garbage. Pablo and 91bird305 will never stop fighting, there is no stopping that. well, i guess i could delete posts, but that shouldnt be nessasary. I think i would like to ask both of them to think of others when they start cracking on eachother when they post. There is not logical reason for some of these comments, not in this post. this post is for blowers, not arguements.

91Bird305

He started it! Seriously, I didn't even say what he said I said!

I am just saying I know there is someone on here that has a blower on there LO3. I think his name is Blown 305 TBI. Check it out. I know, go look back at an old thread called TBI Supercharger. He posted on that and has times. E-mail him and ask him all ur stuff. He actually did the mod.

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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI (ZZ5 summer of "01")
ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-MSD Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone
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chevyboy07 91

Don't get me wrong. I appreciate the help guys. I understand your point on looking through old threads. Sometimes it just doesnt work out, meaning I can't find info. Personally, I think the "archive search" is a big POS. I type in one thing, it gives me another.
Later

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Alex (AKA chevyboy) '91 RS 327 stroker, trans-go shift kit>> manual valve body, cat-delete, MSD (ignition, coil, 2-step, timing retard/ advance),Flowmaster, complete Edelbrock suspension including shocks, struts and lowering springs. CRAGAR drag wheels. Lowered 2.25" in front and 1.5" in rear....Best E/T 12.84 @109 mph...(got spray?)plus more!!

91Bird305

Hey, don't go to the archive, just go down to the bottom of the page and on the right u will see the number 2. Click on it and browse through there and look for a topic called TBI Superchager. You will see it, I guarentee it.

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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI (ZZ5 summer of "01")
ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-MSD Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone
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[This message has been edited by 91Bird305 (edited December 01, 2000).]

Blown 305 TBI

As 91Bird305 stated, I have done the mod! E-mail me for any info. I only check the boards about once a week.
Go here https://www.thirdgen.org/messgboard/...ML/000254.html scroll down looking for my name, and that should give you some performance info. Ask me anything you want to know, and I'll try my best to answer you.

Later,
Mike

P.S. Paxton no longer makes the kit I have.

snflupigus

hey we have information!!
where you been on this one Blown?

o and just wanted to point out, Eric, 16 of the 40 some responses to that link blown posted were yours.

how many et's do you have????


[This message has been edited by snflupigus (edited December 02, 2000).]

91Bird305

ONEFINE8T9

lol eric......

Mark 91RS Supercharged

I am a little late to the post, been on vacation.

I have the same kit as blown 305, my car is a bit more modified and therefore I have been able to get more performance. The motor is still stock below the intake. The kit from Paxton was never a dedicated Camaro kit and I believe the truck TBI kit could work on a Camaro with some modifications but isn't that what hot rodding is all about.

If you have any questions just send me an e-mail

Mark

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1991 305 TBI Paxton SN2000,Edelbrock intake and TES, Turbo city TBI,
MSD6a,Eibach drag lauch kit, Hotchkis RTAs and panhard rod, Richmond 3:73 gears and Auburn limited slip, best ET 13.40 @ 105.4 mph

ONEFINE8T9

u hear that eric!? 13.40 on stock L03 bottom end. lol

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1989 pontiac firebird
bright red exterior(just repainted)
grey interior
5 spd
305 TBI (stock)
WS.6 formula wheels
3.73 posi rear end
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system: 2 10" MTX thunder 2000 in a Professionally done custom bandpass box.
Blaupunkt CD player
Blaupunkt 4x6 and 6x9
600 watt rockford fosgate 4.6 amp

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91Bird305

13.40, thats pretty good for a 305 tbi. But don't get excited Mikey. It just shows you what the LO3 is limited too practically. If you have a blower on ur car u should be in deep 11's. Not mid 13's. So yeah, I am hearin ya. I don't care.

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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI (ZZ5 summer of "01")
ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-MSD Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone
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For info on certain parts or mods go to the site below
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[This message has been edited by 91Bird305 (edited December 02, 2000).]

snflupigus

what a ****y mo fo aint he.

anyway, i think hes an ausie, that is on here that has a supercharged 305 with nos, and a bunch of other one of a kind electronic additions to his car. he sent me wiring diagrams of his af ratio bargraph monitor and he has a bunch of other leds under his center ac vents, along with a red led graph that goes with his tps mounted in his dash.

91Bird305

Wow, that is a crazy sounding 305!

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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI (ZZ5 summer of "01")
ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-MSD Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/91firebird.html
For info on certain parts or mods go to the site below
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/modeval.html