330hp_91RS

Edelbrock Victor Jr., Super Victor???

Weiand X-cellerator, Team G???

What???

I have a dual plane high rise on my 355 and after seeing another member's setup ( almost identical to mine) I think I might go with a single plane.

There comes a time when it is worth losing 10 or 15lb ft of torque for 15 or 20 top end hp.

I'm gonna run D/R's but 450lb ft. is a lot of torque to get to the ground. I'd be better off with a bit more Hp I think.

Anyway, any recommendations on a single plane intake???

I have a feeling most of you are going to say The Victor JR.

86'Bowtie

Why bother to even ask?:hail: VICTOR JR.:hail:

ksrammstein

I sure see a lot of top perf engines running them in engine books

PhilM

Victor Jr hands down, in my opinion...

ljnowell

Victor Jr's Kick some real *** thats for sure. If you are on a budget, the torquer II is a pretty good manifold. I like it.

Apeiron

Ugh, I can't think of a worse manifold on the market right now. There are dual planes that flow better at high RPM than the single plane Torquer II.

ljnowell

hey, your opinion. I dont have a problem with it. I really dont think that it is the worst intake on the market either. GO read some more magazines

Apeiron

I don't read magazines, I had one on my car.

ljnowell

Thats nice, i have one now. I personally dont think that its the worst intake on the market. They are totally capable of high horsepower and High RPM. Ive seen many drag only cars running them.

Stekman

I wonder how many of these people that have posted in this thread have actually tried a different single plane. For example, the people saying "Vic Jr." is the best, have they tried a Weiand? And so on and so forth. So i think it is extremely hard for someone, unless they have actually TRIED differernt forms of intakes, to give a truly un-biased opinion.

Do a search, im sure this isnt the first time this has been asked.

MrDude_1

to go on along that same note.


i wonder how many of them have motors that could tell the diff between a vicjr, weiand, and a claimer motor intake..... :lala:

jpk91rs

I have run both a Holley Strip Dominator and a Victor Jr on a oval track 355 dirt car. The Victor Jr won hands down. That is the only time I have run 2 intakes on the same motor for comparison.

PhilM

Well I agree with the comment "have you used them", and yes, I have seen the difference between a Victor and a Weiand, on the dyno. I worked on dirt track cars for many years and the Victor Jr always gave us the best numbers. BUT, I will also say that was for OUR combination, and the others might do better on other engines. we are also talking about 10 horsepower differences...

now, my personal preference is the Edelbrock, I use it on my car now, and that loyalty comes from past experience with the product. I think it is a better made product, too.

one thing is for certain, every time you put your OPINION on here somebody shoots it down...

330hp_91RS

Hypothetical:

A built 355 producing 425hp with a dual plane (weiand stealth, edlelbrock RPM, you pick) would benefit by a single plane ot not???

In other words, are we talking about 10 hp here from the intake change from a dual plane to a single plane Victor Jr.???

I know I also have to think about average hp vs. Peak, but the motor is going to produce plenty enough torque where i think I might want a little more top end.

What do you guys think??? Stick with the dual plane or go with a single???

PhilM

I'm talking 10 hp between single planes...

as for your 355, it really depends what type of RPM range you are using. A single plane is meant for 4,000 +, as in most race apps, and the dual plane is meant for lower revs...

bluegrassz

iTrader: (3)

You might check out the intake I am running. It is a Team-g single plane. It is considered a street ram intake. The rpm range is 2000 to 6500. It also has egr and choke provisions. Mine are blocked off.

I have it on a stock L98 motor with a 750 vs holley. I might have been better off with a dual plane intake, but I got this one cheap and plan on building the motor.

Oh yeah, the part #7525 and yes it does fit under the stock camaro hood with drop base air cleaner.

Tremo

Out of date info, but way back when, I had a friend with a 68 Z-28 (302, solid cam, 2.02 heads, 12:1 pistons, balanced and blueprinted, etc...), and he put on a first gen Torker and a Holley 800 double pumper. He also had a 4.11 rear end. That car hauled ***, it was one of the fastest in town.

He sold me his stock GM aluminum hi-rise for $50.

The old Torker had straight runners, the new version uses curved runners. What's the problem with this design if you're building a hi-revving engine?

330hp_91RS

Lets get off the topic of the Torker intake.

I would never get one.

I have tons of hood clearance so I can get whatever intake I want short of a tunnel ram, etc.

The Torker is easily outperformed by the high-rise single planes.

My basic questions is, should I retain the dual plane or go with a single plane???

Which will be faster in the 1/4???

I have tons of torque alreaady so is the increased top end hp worth losing the low end torque???

IHI

iTrader: (1)

You can see in the sig. my mild 355. Past experience with buddies and back then they were all running the Torker II open plenum, all had really good performance out of nothing specail 350's and 400's. I just recently removed my Bowtie high rise dual plane intake to fix an intake leak, I had much reserve about installing my Vic Jr. because my cam is so small and relies on low end grunt to get me going even though my convertor flashes to 3600 on launch. So, I said what the heck and installed the Vic Jr., I wish our track was open so I could give feed back with real numbers, but it doesnt open till Sat and I think I lost a lifter or a cam lobe that same afternoon. BUT, I can tell you I was pleasently surprised on how responsive this intake was on the low rpm side of stop light driving. I know seat of the pants is a generic measure of performance, especially coming off winter storage, but I've been in my car long enough to honestly say I could feel a big difference, with the high rise dual plane it started losing power around the 5K mark and at 5500rpm you could literally feel the car start to nose over at the 6K shift point. On my intial test drive the first thing I did was wind it out to see if in fact my cam was falling short on top, but much to my suprise the car continued to pull after 6K, I only took it to 6200, but it was still keeping me in the seat and not nosing over. This has also been the case in other cars with stock to mild sbc running the open pleniums I've riden, even though the cam is all done according to specs, they just keep pulling, period.

So to answer your question based on my experience I would defintely op to install the Vic Jr. as I noticed no "seat of the pants"-sorry difference on the lower rpm side-actually seemed more responsive-and the gains you'll pick up on top are definiately worth the 2 hr swap in itself. Hopefully I can diagnose my problem Sun. and have it fixed by the 24th if it is in fact lifter collapse, so I can offer real world numbers to compare a 1500-6500rpm high rise dual to the 3500-8000rpm Vic Jr. I personally would leave the Super vic to a sbc that is running higher compression and big duration cams that need to be wound up so the componenets work better together. My $.02

RB83L69

A couple of places to look...

http://www.brodix.com/onlinecatalog/...page49-50.html
http://www.dartheads.com/csbmanifold.htm

SSC

I was going to mention Brodix but RB posted the link so. Ive used the X-cellerator it works well. Holley Keith Dorion series are great. Hogan racing manifolds are probably one of the best which can also be made to your specifications but I highly doubt anyone not seriously racing for $$$$ can afford $2500 for a sheet metal intake. http://www.hogansracingmanifolds.com/

330hp_91RS

Thanks a lot guys.

I was going to get one of those HVH 'super sucker' carb spacers to get a bit more topend on my dual plane. They are $70.

For another $10 bucks I can get a Victor Jr. off Ebay.

I'll probably do that instead.

Gumby

Victor Jr. all the way baby.

I seen one the other day that had been adapted to fit a Buick. There is some kit that cost an extra $150 to make it fit.