Shadow Z

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Basically I'd just like to know, will the serpentine system off of a small block Chevy, work on a big block Chevy?

Shadow Z

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Bump, does anyone know?

camaronewbie

The only thing that a serpentine system entails that's different is the belts and pulleys. If the accessories from a BBC will connect in such a manner as to allow all the installed serpentine pulleys from such to be all aligned with one another, then it would work.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, depends on the model year of the BBC, whether the heads have accessory holes, and whether the accessories have the pulleys available to make a serpentine system.

And then, regardless of all that, with a fat wallet (the key word being 'fat'), March makes any accessory/pulley/belt system you can imagine for any motor.

If it were me, I'd start by looking at part numbers for accessories for BBC vs. SBC, as I believe most are the same - then I'd look into mounting bracket options that may fit both (like the fact that many aftermarket alternator mounts attach to the water pump and intake, and I'd think that would be exchangable from BBC to SBC.

Shadow Z

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Cool, thanks for the information. I figured the year of the block it's self would come into play. I'm thinking about converting to a big block, if it's worth it and I can use my alternator, and a couple of the pulleys possibly.

That's basically all I'd be able to use anyway, since my Camaro doesn't have air conditioning.

jkris53406

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Go pick up the new car craft. They talk about serp setups and in the article they discuss a company called kwik performance. They make a spacer plate kit that allows you to put the sbc setup on a std or tall deck bbc.

Shadow Z

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I'll have to check that out, now all I need is $10,996 for a 632 big block!

I wish.

Someday..

EvilCartman

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11 grand is cheap for a 632. Friend of mine had one built for just over 20k and made 1020 hp on 91 octane. Didn't even put it in his car, put it in his boat instead lol

Saabster

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Even if it only makes 600-700 hp you're not doing too bad.

Shadow Z

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I found a place that sells complete 800 horsepower 632 big blocks for that price, but think of the other things you need, Mass-Flo EFI's kit is $3,000, a serpentine system, headers, all that neat stuff.

So in the end it would come close to 20 grand. That's why I came back to my senses and realized a 383 is the right setup for me, plus I'll have cash later on to stick on some turbos.

camaronewbie

Not 3rd gen related, but....

Biggest bang for the buck I've seen hp/car/cash wise is an early Mazda Miata - there's a kit that allows the drivetrain from a ***stang (it's not legal to say/spell it completely on TGO) - $3k for the kit, $5k for a crate ***stang motor/tranny/rear, and if you pick up an older Miata for $1500 - you've got a $12k car that blows a ZO6 off the road, as well as most Porche, Ferrari, and Lambo's. How much fun would it be to smack a ZO6 off the line in a Miata? That's my little $12k dream (although over the last 5 years I've spent more than that on my 'Maro), so maybe not so far out of reach)

Shadow Z

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Why would you use a Ford drivetrain though? I'm not the typical Ford hater, I love the body styles, but their engines are horrible. A little 281 Ford that can't rev higher than a 427 Chevy is bad. Very bad.

That's an awesome idea for a track car, but if you lighten up a Camaro, it'd be 10 times better. Camaros have less of a drag coefficient, the problem is just overcoming the weight of a full size sports car.

camaronewbie

Are you kidding me? There's never been a stock Camaro that would ever outrun a stock ***stang! The 289 was always way faster than the 302, 305, 327, and even most 350's stock. The 351's (whether Clevelands or Windsors) always outperformed the 350 and 400's, and there's just nothing stock factory built that can compete with a 427 Cobra. And it's obvious that the Ford motors can be upgraded for way more hp with way less cash, given the number of 17 year olds with ***stangs out there that just kick butt.

But, I don't want to get into a Ford vs. Chevy debate here, they all have their pluses and minuses.

I'm assuming though that the Ford was used due to the fact that Ford and Mazda already have a past relationship (and may still) - the Mazda Navajo and Ford Explorer for example.

OK - I guess I hijacked this thread enough sorry

Shadow Z

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No, I'm not kidding you.

Camaros have almost always been faster, most of the time with less power, due to them always being more aerodynamic. They're bold straight lined cars, but just slip through the air with ease. Now don't get me wrong, I didn't say quicker, I said faster.



"Top speed of the new Mustang GT has also risen from the mid 130s to just under 150 mph."

https://www.thirdgen.org/rt_october1...s_camaro_irocz

Top speed of the GT - 148 mph. Top speed of the Camaro - 149 mph.

Enough said.