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Compression is probably the single most important factor in building a motor. If you plan on running crazy compression pistons/heads you'll need to run race fuel all the time. Is this car for race use only? Cause with that high of compression it should be
jcb is totally right. CC did a article on the power increases in compression. Using 91 octane on all pulls on there Mopar 440, they gained about 20 horse each point and trigged that number right on 3.5, but the high end jumps (11:1 -12:1) they were gaining much more, like 5 percent. The mag is still on the stands until, flip, flip, there- last page!, Oh! till Jan. 1st!!! It is the big block shootout one. Good Luck!
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Oh i forgot if i used the stock pistons what woudl be the compression ratio estimated at since i think the combustion chambers on the victor jr.s are like 76cc?
Vette-eater,
I like that. But there are some pretty mean Vettes out there.
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I wouldn't suggest such a high compression ratio on a daily driven car. It would be expensive to keep race gas in it all the time. If it's a street/strip car, there are better ways to get horsepower than having to live with such a high compression ratio.
Yes, going to a carburetor will help get the revs, and the horsepower up. But I'd suggest a hydraulic roller cam if you don't already have one. Go as big as you can get away with, if you have a smog test.
I'd suggest stroking your 350 to a 383, or go to a 400-based engine. That's the mouse that thinks it's a rat. Then see if you can get away with a true dual exhaust, or at least an excellent flowing single exhaust.
On my 355 when it was carbureted, I was averaging 16 to 17 mpg on the highway. Plus it would outpull a healthy 5.7 liter L98 C4 Corvette. That's with 10:1 compression.
I yanked it out of my Corvette to get ready for the big block, and stuck it in my IROC with the tuned port installed.
__________________ 1986 IROC-Z
Tuned Port 355, 10:1, 350hp/400 lb-ft
For a 13:1 engine you'll probably need a minimum of 100 octane fuel and 112-114 would be prefered.
High compression in a gasoline street engine isn't a good choice. Even the muscle cars of the late 60's only peaked to around 12:1. High compression will also build a lot of heat. A better cooling system needs to be used to get the heat out of the engine.
Stock pistons will have problems with that kind of compression ratio. Forged pistons should be used.
You could solve your octane problems by converting your fuel system to propane or alcohol/methonal. Both fuels work well in high compresion ratio engines and alcohol runs cool. In a street engine it may actually run too cool and cause other problems.
If you plan on any street driving, stick to a max of around 10:1 and put premium pump gas in it.
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