87irocz350

Last night my brother was a little-no- really drunk. And if you ever want to know anything that he wont tell you all you do is give him a six pack, and he will tell you everything.
It seems that when my dad boought my car he was out driving it one day with my older brother, and they went down town to cruise the strip in it.
MAN, I CANT GET THIS COMPUTER TO WORK RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS THE 3RD TIME IVE HAD TO CHANGE THIS!
Any ways, He said my dad smoke a C-5 vette all the way through 4rth when they backed off. Said by 3 car lengths.
Do you think this was drunk talk or real?

87irocz350

Yeah, my dad made my Bro swear that he would never tell me. Buy like I said, He was drunk.
My dad doesnt let me out in the car much any more, now I know why.

TBurke

I think he must have had too much to drink because a C5 would kill a 350 Iroc anyday anytime with ease!

87irocz350

I dont know what happed to my sig but here it is.
350 tpi
5 speed
24lb injectors
aluminum heads that have had work
3.45 gears
full exhuast
no emissions
no ac
58mm throttle body
Free mods
SLP runners
posi trac
Plugs and wires of course
two KN air filters ( yeah makes a huge difference, Whoopie)
And yes, the car has had many owners that have done many things to it. I wont even know if the car has been bored or not tell I rebuild it next year.

TBurke

I have a 350 as well AFR 190's/slp 1/3-4/24lb injectors-3:73/TCI trans.Eldelbrock lower-Superram upper with 58mm TB. All the rest of the goods. With this combo ive done 13'os on street tires with poor 60 foot times (1.9-2.0). I changed over to a new intake and blower just trying to get this going.

I went for a ride in my freinds C5 auto and it feels quicker than my combo. If I ran this combo against a new C-5 I think I would come up short. If I managed to get good traction I think I might get em but I would definately say that my old combo or yours would kill a C5.

I thought you may have had a stock 350 Iroc(high 14's low 15's). That would be a joke against a C5. No trying to put down stock Irocs - The C5's are just that impressive.

Mark A Shields

Well, a new C5 is good for high 12s. I was @ WOT the other nite and this C5 was pulling out of 7-11, guess he wanted some after hearing my exhaust, he was beside me in no time. I just looked over and shook my head. I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid.

TexasLT1

you sure about that Mark? I thought only the Z06's were good for 12's, and that the normal C5's were good for very low 13's.

Mark A Shields

Well, a Z06 can hit 12.4 and only has 20 more HP than a regular. I drove the one in my signature. I would not be surprised at all if it could pull a high 12. By the way, the was so awesome to drive that car.

Tom84L69

Z06 has 405 hp, regular vette has 350. 12.2 for the Z06 and 13.0 for the regular, maybe high 12s.

ihateallmustangs

an iroc wouldnt stand a chance against a c5..c6..late model z51 equiped c4...i know.

Mark A Shields

I'm pretty sure an '02 C5 has 385 hp and the Z06 has 20 more hp at 405. Saw C&D not too long ago. Least I like to think I have a very good memory. If a newer SS can hit a high 12, I'm damn sure a C5 '02 could.

DRKTEALV6BRD

mark the 02 vette has 350 HP there chief
http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/index_coupe.htm

Mark A Shields

Then C&D tv show lied to me. That's cool. So how does the Vette get like 70 more HP from.

JAY87GTA

You can magazine race all day, but I saw this thursday night at Bradenton Drag park here in Florida. A blue ZO6 pulled up and ran a 13.80, and his best run of the night was a 13.43. Obviously the guy couldn't drive, right? Do people magically learn how to drive on the street? I'm thinking NO. Is it possible this kids old man pulled up to and dusted one of these none driving yuppies? I'm thinking YES!

88IROCZJG

It is very possible that this kids dad pulled up next to a guy who couldnt drive. JAY87GTA, that time you gave seems really high even for a guy who can't drive.....are you sure it is already corrected....if it's not that could be like a 12.9 and 12.6. Just wondered. Bottom line, its possible this kid's dad beat one, but it would have had to of been a bad driver.

tpivette89

thanks to the LS6 manifold that all 2001 Vettes and up get, the C5 now has 360hp from the factory. 2000s and under had 350hp. they car run high - mid 12s if properly driven. the Z06 is a low 12 sec car right out of the box. check this out : there are 2 people on Corvetteforum.com that have run 11.9s in their bone stock 2002 (405hp) Z06s. if you dont believe me, go over to their board and do a search.

JAY87GTA

You're not going to get much closer to sea level than Bradenton unless you put ponttons on the car! LOL I couldn't believe it myself. There was a dealer promo 'vette there that had all kinds of boltons done to it. Ran a 14.2 and promptly drove out the gate. There were 7 or 8 LS1 cars and none were running much below a 14, and most were in the 14.2 range. There was 1 black WS6 that ran a 11.98, so one guy could drive. Not sure of his mods, but a couple of the SS's I checked out had a few things done and couldn't break 14 flat, so......

trans87

At the drag strip the other day the ZO6s were running 12.70 and 12.65. This was at Fontana drag strip so the track was a little slick.

ir0cz

No....the fastest time a 2002 Z06 has tested is a 12.7 by Evan Smith. I think a reg. C5 runs a 13.3......They are still awsome cars...but there's quite a few thirdgens on here that could take one.

ir0cz

11.9's A viper is a high 11, low 12 second car. And we all know which is faster out of those two. The 2002 Z06 is a high 12 second car....mid 12's if you ice the intake and do tricks like that.

Mark A Shields

C&D Magazine, listed the Z06 at 12.4.

trans87

As I stated before the ZO6s were running 12.70 and 12.65 (they raced each other). They were bone stock. They had no mods at all. They didn't ice the intake either. Those things were fast and just plain awesome

tpivette89

ive seen 3 Z06s in the low 12s at my local track. one went 12.4s and the other 2 were going 12.3. dont believe me about the 11.9s? go onto corvetteforum.com under the Z06 board before you raise your BS flag

ir0cz

You've seen a few that go 12.4's...but were they TOTALLY stock? I'm just speaking from what I've read in 3 or 4 BIG magazines....and all of them listed 12.7 to 12.9. Maybe they can go 12.4s....but I dont believe 11.9s off the showroom floor. And you keep saying that if we dont believe you, go to corvetteforum.com.....well it's a bunch of guys like us...if i come on here and say my stock IROC runs a 13.0 stock, does that necessarily mean it's true? Dont get me wrong....i'm not raising the BS flag at you or calling you a liar...i just dont think your source is reliable. Nothing personal against you....not a flame.

ir0cz

I went to corvetteforum.com......and read the post where the guy went 11.79......but he was not at all STOCK as you said. He had "My mods are – Breathless Vortex cold air box, air bridge, & coupler. Hurst shifter. Switch to turn on slow radiator fan. BFG drag radials" Sure I belive he went 11.79 w/ those mods and drag radials. He said a few other people went 11.9s...and they had pretty much the same mods. So a stock Z06 cannot run high 11s stock.

tpivette89

Evan Smith drag tested a 99' hardtop vette at Etown and went a best of 12.66. think of what he could do now that the C5 has a 10hp boost and a stronger clutch (added in 2001). not to mention a extra 55hp with the new 2002 Z06. i believe 11s are possible for him with that car.

elevario

11's I think are totally possible. A Zo6 is NOT a high 12 second car. A stock LS1 vette is. And there were times when people have gone a high 12 in a STOCK LS1 (Camaro or T/a) including I think Evan Smith. Someone can correct me if it was somebody else. So for the vette weighing less and having a little bit more horses than an fbody it is easily capable of mid twelves to high twelves. Now, the Zo6 with the LS6 engine, has quite a bit more than the Ls1 vettes. If the stock vettes are now rated at 360 it has like 405hp. And everybody knows about the factory freak cars, and I bet that the guys who have run a high 11 have a freak car! But the Zo6 is a LOW 12's car, no doubt!

JAY87GTA

The whole point to this arguement, or disagreement, whatever you want to call it, is that the cars are perfectly capable of a 12 second run. The bonehead pushing the pedals is what determines the time. You guys need to quit reading those damn magazines and head out to the track, maybe, just maybe, you'll see a sweet car rip off an awesome run. Who gives a **** what you read, people are telling what they saw, and as the saying goes....

ir0cz

How bout you get w/ the program pal....nobody here is disputing the fact that TA's, camaros and vettes can run 12s...we all know that. So in that matter, there is no "arguement, disagreement, whatever you want to call it".....at least not about the 12 second barrier.

In ever discussion, there's always "THAT GUY" that tries to step in and end the discussion by saying something deep and meaningful....but they're always WAY OFF...and often haven't even closely read the discussion.

ir0cz

Hey, maybe the new Z06 can run high 11s....if it's possible, then more power to GM, i'll be happy. If not, it's still a bad ****. we dont really need to dispute if it runs low 12s or high 11s....it's still a fast *** car. Agreed?

elevario

Hey, I was just saying magazine times because ir0cz was saying stuff from magazines. I watched a stock zo6 here in tucson run a 13.2 and he was stock. I have no doubt in my mind that he sucked at driving but most cars don't run magazine times. I know this. But if someone starts basing all his facts on magazines, shouldn't you argue with the same firepower? Hell, people tell me that iroc's with a 350 should run a mid 14 but the best I have seen in tucson out of a stock car is a 14.8. Most stock irocs around here run in the 15's. And LS1 cars at their best here run around a mid 13 stock. So I know magazines don't always tell the truth. The only people that take magazines to heart are ricers with their ***** calculators. (Air filter 20 hp, CAI 20hp, Muffler 25 hp, equals 65 hp at the wheels!) Bullcrap, I know. Am I "THAT GUY" ir0cz? If so, explain to me how I am "Way off". But I do agree with you, the zo6 is a badass car!

Tom84L69

97-00 vettes had 345 hp. 2001 and up regular vettes have 350 hp. 2001 Z06s had 385 hp. 2002 Z06s have 405 hp.

gm engineers have run 12.2 with the 385 horse Z06. they've also ripped off a 3.66 0-60 time (3.8s consistently).

These are FOR SURE numbers, trust me.

elevario

I can't even imagine going a 3.66 0 to 60! The fastest car I have driven was a 2002 WS6 and we could barely pull mid 5 seconds! This car scared me for how fast it was going! It's wierd because when I did this, it didn't feel like we were going that fast. My friends 95 Z28 felt SOOOOOO much faster but we could barely get a 6 second 0 to 60. Of course this was with a stopwatch so the times are TOTALLY inaccurate! 3.66 is exotic car times!

Tom84L69

yeah, when you get a driver in a Z06 who knows what he's doing, they can pull amazing numbers.

tpivette89

my brother started a post yesterday on the corvetteforum under the "ZO6" boards about how fast the members there have gone 100% bone stock. if your interested in what the owners of those cars have to say, go check it out

ir0cz

I wasn't talking about you man, i was talking about JAY87GTA...that's who I quoted. I didn't comment at all on what you said. And as far as using magazine times, I have a good reason for that....I'm sure nobody here owns a Z06, so nobody can say "i ran a .... in my Z06". I'm sure a lot of people have seen a Z06 run, but if they have the same experience I have had, I've only seen a few Z06s, and all those guys ran low 13s, so we very well can't use those numbers because we know they're slow...can't drive. So what else is there? What the magazines tell you. And I know that magazines are often off, I think they make the cars out to be faster than they really are. That's why I said a stock Zo6 can't run high 11s, cause the fastest time I've seen was a 12.4...and like I said, i think magazines fib about their times.....so if a mag lies and says its car ran a 12.4, then why would I think that it can run half a second quicker? If anything, i wouldn't believe it could even run a 12.4. That's just my opinion...until I have proof, that's what I'll believe.

Oh yea, about the rice magazines and rice calculators, you gotta mention the mustang mags too.....(20 HP intake, 30HP exaust, 15 HP underdrive pulleys, etc.) If it were that easy, i'd have a stang instead of a thirdgen!

ir0cz

The fastest guy that replied ran a 12.17. That is very fast, but still not an 11.99. I did notice that he dynoed at 353 RWHP and 347 RQTQ....which i estimate to be about 440 HP and 433 lb/ft at the crank....WHAT THE?!??!?! Am I off, what's the deal here? Somebody explain. I know that back in the day GM used to lie about HP ratings, but I dont believe they still do. And I've heard of camaros and TA's dyno testing at 5-10 HP over rating....but not 35!!!

elevario

LOL! I can't believe I forgot the mustang mags! I totally agree with what you just said, and I think that the people with those cars that run the VERY low 12's have the factory freak cars.

AFrikinGoodTime

I eat Z06's for lunch. Ran a 10.89 back in 1988 on street tires and got popped for not having a cage.

AFrikinGoodTime

Back veiw. I'm currently building an autocross 3rd gen camaro that should rival this.

Tom84L69

that sounds like a frickingoodtime.

i'm surprised to see that metal leaf spring in the back. most guys would switch to a fiberglass one or coil overs. sweet car.

JAY87GTA

As long as we agree every vette isn't going to run a 12 second pass, cool. I wasn't really refering to you irocz, but alot of guys that never go to the track assume a Z06 automatically runs in the 10's or something. Personaaly I could give a crap about the profound statement, LOL. Where you at, maybe we can get toghether at the track somethime? Later

cort351w

Check out ls1.com--C5's can run to the high 12's; 01 Z06 can run to very high 11's; 02 Z06 can run to mid 11's. Just like I tell people at other sites that want thirdgen data, go to a site for people that drive the cars. If you want to know about Z06 times, check out ls1.com and corvetteforum.com.

89Irocz23

Dont believe anything AFrikinGoodTime says he remind me of monkie or whatever his name is. Both of them BS about everything.

AFrikinGoodTime

If anyone was at California speedway yesterday morning they can verify seeing me in my car doing a couple of exibition pace laps with Parnelli Jones' vette and a few others. A friend took pics that i will gladly post when he gets them developed to show this skeptic that I don't bullsh*t.

85transamtpi

Z06's are very fast cars.

I know that at my local Fbody vs Ybody event, a stock Z06 won. The only mod that the car had was drag radials.

He was running 11.9's @ 120 all day long.

Mean5.7 was at the track with me, also a few other members. These are not BS times.

-Doug

ir0cz

DRAG RADIALS = NOT STOCK. I wanna see a completely stock Z06 run 11.9s

Tom84L69

12.2 is the best gm's engineers could get out of the 385 hp version.

tpivette89

drag radials arent a "mod". the car is still completely 100% stock. Corvettes come with those run-flat (hard as a rock sidewall) tires. just changing from these to a good set of Michelin Pilots should improve their 60fts considerably. if GM went 12.2 with the 01' version, i believe a 405hp version with a better set of street tires could go 11.9

Tom84L69

z06s do not come with the runflats. they have eagle F1 SC (supercar) they are worth a ton over the runflats. the Z06 comes with a can of tire sealant in the trunk because there is no spare.