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Old 10-25-2002, 10:47 PM
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Dodge SRT-4 Turbo Neon
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Quater Mile: 14.2 @ 99.5second
Dyno: 223hp - 250lbs torque


If any of you lose to a Neon and I find out about it, I will never...I repeat...NEVER let you hear the end of it.
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99% percent of the people who would buy them would be 17-19 year old girls.....and i couldnt stand losing to them....

and if i did i wouldnt tunr down pit road i would continue to hold it to the floor and hope id have enough speed to get through the sand trap and run it through the guardrail and into the woods...

then spend the rest of my life walking around at 3 a.m. in a drunken haze
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Why didn't they rename that car.. to anything besides a neon? I don't think anyone will like losing to that car... seeing as it's a neon.. They don't exactly have a performance heritage that camaros do... Still.. a 14.2 is a 14.2, and it needs it's own respect..
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I don't figure I'll need to mod my engine to beat the new Neon, and here's why.

Say I line up at a stop light with one of these. We sit and glare each other in the eyes, waiting for the light to change. The light goes green, we both slam on it, and I jump out front (torque), but the other driver inches up, and up, and up, and is just about to pass me, when suddenly the head gasket in the Neon blows, and now he has no car. I win!!!
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I'll have to see them run those numbers to believe it. Thats fast enough to pretty much match the faster L98's and 5.0's.
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not worried at all. ill still be smaking down neons regularly. 14.2 seems a little farfetched, doesnt it? you have a friend with one that ran at the track, Nic?
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I heard those same projected times from a friend of mine the other day. I can't wait till we get one as a bank repo at the auction And just think 14.2 stock..it's turbo folks add some boost and you're in the 13's. Scary but I must say i'd rather see dodge winning the sport compact war than honda. But i'm definitly not scared of losing to one. However humorous that might be.
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i keep a for sale sign under my passenger side seat for occasions like that.. if i get beat by a peon then its for sale
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Come in a few weeks, I'll be able to beat a Neon. Never thought I'd have to wait to beat one.
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I'm not worried yet! When I get the Buick I will have two cars faster than it!!! And the people who are going to buy it are my age and probably can't drive too well (Kind of like me when I went 13.9 !).
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Re: Some of you better get on the ball...

Originally posted by Nic
Dodge SRT-4 Turbo Neon
MSRP: 19,995
Final Gear Drive: 3.526:1
Curb Weight: 2,870
0-60: 5.8
Quater Mile: 14.2 @ 99.5second
Dyno: 223hp - 250lbs torque


If any of you lose to a Neon and I find out about it, I will never...I repeat...NEVER let you hear the end of it.
Hmmmm... did you post this on the Corral as well? 14.2 @ 99 is good enough to beat almost all stock 5.0L Stangs too. Hell, my friend's 92 5.0L 5-speed GT runs low 15's.
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I don't see why you would root for the neon in an import race. I'm going to guess that about %4 of that car was actually made here in the states. And the motor is a mitsubishi I think . Takes me back to the "shelby" chargers and daytonas.
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hmmmm. well I wonder how much they have invested in that neon compared to what I have invested in my fireturd! Betcha its more.........and I'll still walk the dog on it .
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a neon would be a sport compact, not an import. the neon r/t engine has been known to be able to handle enough boost to get it into the mid 12's. thats where they start failing. im not sure on boost or power numbers ... but around the 12's is when ppl start rebuilding the engine. if the aftermarket gets big you might see alot more 13 second neons than you or I would like to admit.
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Hey, before I got the headers/cat delete, the 88 lost to a R/T 5 speed neon. I was running high 16s he was running low 16s. Embarassing. Oh well, His car proabbly cost $10K more than mine did, it better be faster, thats the way I see it.
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well if that neon cost about $20,000, and i only paided about 6 grand and i can almost beat it, i rather have the extra 14 grand in my pocket


just my 2 cents...
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it's still just a neon......
.....no cool points at all for that car.
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An average stock LT1 runs about the same time. Not bad at all. But yeah, it's still a neon. I'd rather drive a neon than a hatchback civic though.
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First off, I'll agree with the info that is posted since I've read it before my self. BUT I'll believe the car can do it when the car does it. It's exaggerated. No way they're going to push 250 lbs/ft through the front wheels of a Neon. Not without some serious work and then why?
I thinkthat's the main question here...
Why?
I'll tell you why: Chrysler Corp is 90% import. So they want something that can pull in Fast and Furious weenies and hurt the Sports Car Whipping Boy: The Ford Mustang. That's what everyone wants to beat. Trust me. I'm sure the Mustang guys get alot more flack than the F-body guys.
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Agreed, Rezinn. But I would rather take 14 seconds to get to 60 and drive an old Subaru that touch either. It's tough, it's long-lasting, a first grader could pay the insurance, it's cool, though to some people, it may be cool in a dorky way. And most of all: 365.5 days a year it will be rolling and nothing can stop it. Long live Subaru.
Sorry for that. Got off track. Ihate Neons and Hondas. There. Now I'm back on track.
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speaking of fast peons, how 'bout that new 6 speed V6 Honda Accord. The damn thing went 14.54@98 in the new motor trend. That's faster than the usual 5.0s and 350s, too, considering the way C&D drives their cars.

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Its still a gay, lame ***, ***** bitch Neon. Nothing will change that.

It's a NEON. remember? "Hi." yeah, that car.
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for 19,000 you could build one hell of a 3rd gen. Anywho I think most of people who buy those "things" are little girls. Besides if one buys a neon they probably cant drive worth a cent. (My grandmother inlaw drives a neon)
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I think it's pretty ignorant to make generalized statements like that... Some of the fastest sport compact cars are Neons. They catch a lot of flak as it is. Fast is Fast, and 14.2@99 is not bad for a stock 4-cylinder car. If I were to get one, my first mod would be to make the wastegate stay closed longer to build more boost. That cheap mod alone would put a neon well into the 13's with a good driver. Hell it dropped my friends TT Supra from 13.9 to 13.3
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Originally posted by IROCZTWENTYGR8
Thats fast enough to pretty much match the faster 5.0's.
Most STOCK 5.0 LXs run 13.9 with some gears.
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Originally posted by 91Firecrow305TBI
If I were to get one, my first mod would be to make the wastegate stay closed longer to build more boost. That cheap mod alone would put a neon well into the 13's with a good driver. Hell it dropped my friends TT Supra from 13.9 to 13.3
I don't think you can compare a TT Supra to a turbo not yet made Neon. Don't think that the neon will react to mods like a supra does. My friend has a turbo Eclipse AWD and he has turned up the boost, down pipe, and intake and he is still trying to break 14's what would a supra run if you did those mods to it? Get where I'm going?
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I see where you are going, and completely agree. The Supra is has an amazing engine. However boost is boost. If it runs 14.2 stock, an increase in boost will logically increase power, decreasing E.T.'s. I know that Car and Driver uses really good drivers, but if the neon is making that much power already, it doesn't really have that far to go to break into the 13's... With the power that it has, I'm surprised that it traps as high as it does, don't get me wrong... How much do these things weigh?
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I know that Car and Driver uses really good drivers,
C&D, and MT drivers have to be some of the worst drivers out there!!! They seem to run good times on the faster imports (Type Rs, and Type S, etc.) and run crappy times with the V8s (LS1, GTs, etc)! I don't quote times from them usually and if I do, I state it is from them, to let everyone know!

I don't plan on racing one on the street so I have nothing to worry about! And if I am at the track I will have tons more traction than it!
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the only neon i wouldn't feel bad losing too is the guy who lives not far from me. he's got a neon with a tube chassis and a 440 in it that makes for one mean Mopar.
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I'm not worried the least bit. just another boring race.....


Nic, glad to hear the car is getting fixed, so it obviously wasnt as bad as you first thought.
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HMMMMM

I am winning to bet that the engine in the neon is roughly the same as the engine in the Daytona IROC RT. if you can hook up another turbo to it (like the Wraith/turbo interceptor..see other post), they can pull 400 horses easy. I bet it wouldn't be too hard to do since dodge has done it before, and they will probebly sell kits if they were smart. Like the TIG welded headers and extra turbo, and the new intake.

Man o man. I am wishing I got a neon. i have a buddy that just put exhaust and intake on his neon 16v DOHC and it would rival my car. He managed to chirp third shifting up a hill. I guess he is a good driver.

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I'm not afraid, and you guys shouldn't be either. Very few people that are serious about racing will buy this car. You can get a 3rd gen rx7, c4 vette, 4th gen f-body, older porsches, and so many other sports cars for way less than 20k. I assume ricers will beg their parents for a car like this, but even with a cold air intake, tip, 12' subs, and stickers, most of them couldn't pull mid 14's.
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thats sounds pretty cool, but I will have to see a neon run a 14.2 to believe it. 99mph sounds pretty high also.
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Nic, glad to hear the car is getting fixed, so it obviously wasnt as bad as you first thought
Yea, it seemed worse than it was. We pulled the front end off sunday and after about 25 minutes with the sledge hammer, a block of wood, and a level we got everything as close to square as it would've been from the factory.

Also, judging from the hp/weight ratio...the mph is dead on if not a little lower than it should be.
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Originally posted by SuperchargedRS
for 19,000 you could build one hell of a 3rd gen. Anywho I think most of people who buy those "things" are little girls. Besides if one buys a neon they probably cant drive worth a cent. (My grandmother inlaw drives a neon)
dear ***, if i had $19k to sink in a 3rd gen? omg that car would f***ing fly.

also, what i have found out? most the races i have been in are on a straight road. With a automatic transmission, all you do is push the gas. Hence a ****ty driver pushings a pedal and might kick your *** in.

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Re: HMMMMM

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I am winning to bet that the engine in the neon is roughly the same as the engine in the Daytona IROC RT. if you can hook up another turbo to it (like the Wraith/turbo interceptor..see other post), they can pull 400 horses easy. I bet it wouldn't be too hard to do since dodge has done it before, and they will probebly sell kits if they were smart. Like the TIG welded headers and extra turbo, and the new intake.

Man o man. I am wishing I got a neon. i have a buddy that just put exhaust and intake on his neon 16v DOHC and it would rival my car. He managed to chirp third shifting up a hill. I guess he is a good driver.

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Dude, calm down. You friend with his modded 16v DOHC is still running 15s unless he's boosting. See, going up a hill makes it easier for front wheel drive cars to chirp their tires. His car will not rival yours. You do not wish you bought a neon...

Now, what does bother me is this: The neon runs a 14.2@99. The mustang, the only premiere american V8 RWD muscle car in a competitive price range is running 14.0@100 mph.

I don't even think that the mustang has much of an edge in modability. You can get cheap, but large, gains out of a factory turbo. The mustang's only salvation is that larger gains will be seen with traction and gears than will be seen in a FWD car.

I'm glad this car is american

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The Neon block is suppossedly good for low 11's. Not stock, but with some caps and 20psi I'll bet there will be a few Neons embarrassing v8 cars.

I believe the fastest Neon is in the 10's currently! Any of you remember the Dodge Omni turbo 2.2, many a f-body and stang felt the sting of that little whistle blower....
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A ran into a friend's friend with an Omni GLHS on the street oneday in my 'vert. From a 35 mph roll we were dead even all the way up to 80. My 'vert had a stock motor and ran 14.20's @ 95 mph.
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