smkehndas

I was just curious on who had the fastest street car on these boards? I know for sure it isnt me but i was just curious. And what is your setup. Im trying to get ideas on a buildup im doing to a 350.:rockon:

RMK

Monty has the fastest car on the board. If someone here has a faster car I'll eat one of my old iron cylinder heads......and get it on video for all to see.

Mark A Shields

What's he run btw? Guido's isn't legal?

RMK

Ah Mark, I've been expecting you. :sillylol:


I believe that Guido's is legal,. Also, I believe he is still just sorting a few hick-ups out such as his intake tubes blowing off etc etc. He's still to get a dyno run with more than 5psi.

Monty hasn't been to the track as far as I knopw but he did do a run with a stopwatch on 1/4 mile stretch of road which came out at 10.9 seconds at about 160mph. The engine makes 916.1 lb/ft and 1151.2 bhp at 6600rpm. Not bad.

So, I believe that Monty is currently the fastest.

devianb

I had been wondering who had the fastest street legal car too. Any car can be made to go about as fast as you want, money permitting, but it takes skills in my opionion to have a car that is extremely fast and still legal and possibly pass an emissions test.


I wonder who has the fastest car here that can pass a CA emissions test?

Ace_Murdock

ohhh now thats a tough one.

chacane67

160? With that ET?

smkehndas

thats what i was thinking

88Bravo

Yes but Monty's motor went into a vet did it not? There are alot of guys on this board that are plenty fast that have N/A motors. And believe me I am one of the slowest!! But I will have a carbed 350 that should turn some heads!

84TransAm

I realize they didn't test Monty's 1/4 in the best way but it's still possible he could have traction problems, i mean how easy is it to get a street car to hook 916 lbs of torque and still turn?

MdFormula350

me, lol j/k not even close..

5.0mustang

The only real way to know is to get track times from it! How do you measure 160 on the street, a speedo?

chacane67

You could mark off a known distance and time it....but theres no way in H*ll that car could run 160 MPH with that ET on the street or the track.....unless it was in a rail chassis or something other than a street legal platform....but even then if that car could, the numbers given would denote that the car is capable of MUCH faster ET's....like a 9.70.....

maroon91rs

i dont think that 160 is with a 10.9.i would think that 1100 hp would get you there,ESPECIALLY a twin turbo motor.we're stupid amounts of mid-high end power in that car.and that 10.9 is prolly due to a weak launch to keep the *** end from swinging around the world on him.DAMN i would love to see and HEAR that car run down the strip.

RMK

Yes it did, but the question never stated tht it had to be a 3rd gen.


Also, I don't see how his trap time and et are bullsh1t.

chacane67

Nothing has been said about his 'Trap time'. But even an estimate of 160 MPH....is just that. An Estimate. I agree, a twin squirrel'ed engine should MPH that fast, but the ET shows signs of a weak launch. On the street? PLEASE........ Save it.....good luck trying to hook that up on the marbles we drive on everyday. Also note that I stated the car would most likely be capable of an ET of 9.70 or better with that MPH.

I was unaware of the squirrel's on this power plant, so I will retract my speculation.

devianb

I wonder who has the slowest? That's a top 10 I could definately make.

kfoley

Two words, iron duke...

devianb

I guess I can't win a single category.

rezinn

160 doesn't seem right for high 10s(way too fast), but a stop watch and a strip of road isn't exactly accurate. Personally my speedo can't keep up with how fast I'm accelerating. Maybe his is the opposite?

Nic

160 mph will take you into the mid 8's and yea that trap speed is believable providing his car is somewhere in the 3400 - 3500 lb. range and he is in fact making 1100 hp.

devianb

I never thought if that could happen.

elevario

Whoa nelly!!

brodyscamaro

who cares about emmissions
but really

devianb

Some of us live in places where we have to have our cars tested.



The pic of that turbo setup is clean and sweet.

RMK

It should be. Monty paid about $30,000 for that.

devianb

30k. Wow thats a lot of money. I could buy 8 thirdgens for that.

Nic

I hope that's for the whole motor and not just the turbo kit...

gta324

Maybe this one........

Looking through my logs I noticed you guys have been loyal visitors til my page lately so I thought I'd pay a visit.

I wrote an article on this car for a local car magazine this summer and yes, it's a door slammer that gets used every day. However that's not the full story, as it has a complete tube frame built in so that all susp mounts, engine mounts and such go into the tube frame. Makes for a pretty heavy car (1835kg drag ready with driver) but stock appearance is essential in car-hating Norway unfortiunately.

The owner, Paal Arvid Blytt, has built this car for a dead serious attack on the Silver State Classic in the unlimited class. He ran a rented Viper at an average of 159mph at the event back in 2000 in case you wondered if he's for real. He is very serious. Not only that, but he's spent the time and money to make a car that works and is really beginning to produce results at drag strips and race tracks here in Scandinavia.



Besides kicking very expensive and high profile *** at the drags, it's the ability to do the same at race-tracks that has really gotten attention over here. Everyone knows an amcar with a bigblock cant turn a corner, right? Well try to explain that to the barely street legal high profile racers that had a mirror full of T/A at "Gatebil" street legal track races this summer AWD turbo power isn't much help when you're not going any faster in the corners and arriving at the straights with a disadvantage of 300 or 400 hp... not surprisingly, the faster high profile cars refused to race.

I'll put up a spec sheet below. Since the shots were taken, he's added an Autronic SM2 ecu and a second staged NOS system jetted for apx 250hp. When run in conjunction with SM2 and traction control, one button controls both systems while SM2 controls one/two stage actuation. Neat

Ok, what you all want to know - yes the turbos do fit as everything was built with the engine in the car - and they are going into the car but Polly has decided that using the steel Brodix-head bigblock is off since he can develop suficcient power in the Donovan alu block and save a lot of weight. So lower comp pistons are going into that engine and turbos too. Turbos will be electronic wastegate controlled by SM2 so that the boost can be tailored to available traction - the existing solution was simply too brutal as there was wheelspin pretty much all the time. polly has calculated he needs about 1000 reliable hp in order to get the performance he needs in Nevada.

I've had a test ride - kindly declined a test drive as I'm used to about 1/10th of the power - but the car is so competently set up that even though the engine roars like thunder and the speedo indicated speeds in the several-years-in-prison range (welcome to Norway...) the cars doesn't feel "out-of-control" fast like a turbo fwd car does. It just feels like a rediculously fast car held back by other traffic - 120mph feels like an ambling run for groceries and even at full power theres no twitchiness or instability. Tho the Polly did admit that the nose gets light above 300km/h (190mph) so while the car pulled briskly he had to back off at 330.

Perhaps for you draggers out there this isnt that much out of the ordinary, but me I'm used to fast cars beling defined as an M3 or a chipped Audi S4... and in comparison it's mind alteringly fast!

Ok sorry for alle the text, it's hard not to get worked up a project like this in Norway where government is pretty much trying to snuff out anything that's noisy or fun.

If youre still reading, thanks

Espen Vindegg
evo motorsport
www.evo.no


Heres a spec sheet written in cooperation with the owner:

1986 Ponitac Trans Am, GTA aero package
Owner: Pål Arvid Blytt, Bergen, Norge.

Engine: 540” Donovan aluminum block with Scott Shafiroff ported Dart heads and matched Dart intake. 4.50” bore 4.25” stroke. Cailles billett crank, Oliver rods, JE pistons 10.78 compression. Competition Cams 250 deg rollercam at .650” lift with Jesel 1:1.7 roller rockesr. Autronic SM2 fuel injection with MSD ignition. NOS Fogger two stage kit (150hp + 250hp). Moroso dry sump lubrication with external reservior. Hand built exhaust system with backpressure operated muffler bypass for silent cruising yet thunderous races.

Transmission: Precision Industries converter, 4500 stallspeed. 4L80 prepared by Ole Ringstad. Manual shifter. 0.75:1 4th gear and 3.00:1 rear end for a teoretical top end of more than 400km/h!

Susp front: Art Morrison forged, all bushings replaced with uniballs. Adjustable Koni coilovers. 36mm Herb Adams stabilizer. (Racing Selholm coilovers being developed)

Susp rear: 3.00:1 9” Ford with Mosler shafts. Lightened aluminum center with Detriot Locker diff. Custom adjustable three-link rear end, all uniballs. Adjustable Koni coilovers. (Racing Selholm coilovers being developed)

Bremser: Front Audi RS4 360mm floating discs and four piston Baer calipers, rear 12.5” Wilwood vented discs and four piston calipers.

Tires: Front 245/40/20 Michelin Pilot Sport, rear 285/35/20 Pirelli Pzero. M/T ET Street 820/11,5/15 for drag.

Rims: BBS RC 9x20” og 10x20”.

paint: Original and well broken in.

Interior: MOMO Corse FIA approved racing buckets, Autometer instruments, Simms fourpoints - and a 20 lbs NOS bottle!

ICE: Pioneer CD-player and speakers up front, 783kW all aluminum subwoofer..!

Weight: 1835kg (4110 lbs). Distribution 50/50% when fuel cell is half full.

Performance: DIN 780hk/6800 and 940 Nm (695 lb/ft) /5000 in engine dyno. Power on NOS calculated by Precision Industries at 1065hk (that's what it would take to slip their converter to redline)

¼ mile 10.06 sek/228,8 km/h (142 mph) at Gardemoen - 10,41s/221 km/h (137 mph) on Pirelli PZeros at Mantorp. 1/8 mile 6.501 sek/180 km/h at Gardemoen. SM2 logs reveal 0-100 km/h (0-62 mph) in 3.5 sek street tires on street, 2.8 sek street tires at Mantorp and 2.5 sek DOT radials at Gardemoen raceway. Top speed power restricted at ~ 350 km/h, fastest driven is 330 (205mph) and climbing.

hope you can understand my english, technical terms are a bit hard for a Norwegian. No Speedvision here!

RMK

Nic,

I believe that the $30,000 covered pretty much everything. FAST TIMES did the turbo instalation.


gta324,

I've seen that car mentioned on the power adder board a couple of times. It's impressive. Also, nice web page you have there, and chance of doing a bi-lingual version?

gta324

Thank...my first web page ...... Excuse my ignorance, but what do you mean with bi-lingual version??

92Transam

He means a site in both Norwegian and english so that we can understand what your site says.

gta324

My site is in english ONLY......so I dont know what he means?

Ps. I live in sweden.........

/N.

92Transam

Oh we thought that the site you posted with that black trans am with twin turbos was your site.

gta324

I WISH it was my car................

My car and site are in my sign....not as fast as the Norweigan.....

DaGoat

Just a hint to all of those who don't know, if you ever come across a web site you can't read. Copy and paste the web site, or address into www.babblefish.com, it will do the translations for you, that is if you know what language it is.

smkehndas

do you got a pic of the engine in that beast? (gta324)

devianb

Or you can just dowload a language package. I have a program that asks me if I want to convert a language to English on the Internet,

1986CamaroSC

ever see this


http://wwwstud.fh-zwickau.de/~ao/ecz28/ecz28.htm



<img src="http://wwwstud.fh-zwickau.de/~ao/ecz28/1.jpg">

devianb

Its been awhile since I seen that one. At a top speed of over 200mph, it is definately one of the fastest street legal thirdgens.

gta324

He....he......Thats a swedish car.

I have the car spec i a magazine somewhere........

Kingtal0n

Heres one:
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=144692

500 horsepower and 22 MPG.

not a bad combo for the street I would say.

NTChrist

Why is it that these ultra-high hp cars (like Monty's and the black Norweigan GTA) are only posting 10 sec quarter mile times.

Not that my car is anywhere near 10 seconds (!), but you'd think with hp in the quadruple digits, you'd be able to post better times.

BTW, that Norweigan car is definitely one of the baddest 3rd gens I've ever heard about.

92camaro

I have a pretty fast street car. It's not a 3rd gen it's not even a camaro. It's a mustang it runs 8.60's 158-160mph. It could et alittle better but it hard to get it off the line it is either blowing the tires off or draggin the bumber. Oh an that is all out of a 310 inch motor with a Procharger and a hydr-roller cam.

Deimos140

I have a customer/ friend I gave the option of building a budget car or an all out annilation car. The hp figures were 1141 at 5,800 RPm and 1,350 lb pounds of torque at 3,200. We are working on getting an extra 120 hp at this point out of her. What the best thing is, is that is is a street strip car. We actually had to regear her because we were afraid that we would run out of mph on the quater with the 4.10's.

Kingtal0n

<b>street car</b>

IT depends on the definition of that word. To me, a street car is a car that:
Has Excellent Throttle response
Gets good Fuel economy (15 MPG+ city)
May have a mild idle, but nothing that shakes the whole car at a light.
Doesnt shift or engage from a stoplight brutally
Has a moderately stock appeal to it. Cowl hoods are ok, but 15" Wide slicks on the back are not.
Doesnt have any "noticable" high horsepower modifications. e.g. 12 Pt. Roll cage, Gutted interior, Lexan instead of glass, super skinny front tires, etc...
Can keep the RPMS down around town. This means no 4000 Stall converters, and it usually means having an overdrive tranny.
Can keep the noise level down around town. This means no open headers. Cut-outs, however, are a perfectly good way of "masking" a drag-race ready exhaust.

This is my definition of a "street car" although some (many) people will disagree here and there, these are the guidelines I follow(ed) when I attempt to make a car fast yet streetable.

I beleive monty's 1200 horsepower car is only running 10's instead of 8's because he doesnt use slicks or a Trans-brake.he also doesnt hook up worth a damn till 160 MPH or somthing rediculous. If you dont hook up, I dont care how much power your engine makes, your not going to get the full potential out of your motor on the drag strip.

Deimos140

No 15 inch slicks, no lexan, a cervinis hood and averages about 16 mpg not bad huh?:lala:

Kingtal0n

yeah but hows it idle, and whats your powerband look it? hehehehe. let me guess, it shakes the fenders and makes power from 4000-7500 rpm right? but thats okay, cause mine does too. im such a hypocrit. (hypocryght? hypocright...)

Deimos140

It is powerband form 3,500- 7,000 (we could take it to 8500) and it is designed to bleed off compression at idle. Not to much of a rough idle.

rx7speed

if they did it on the street though wouldn't the trap be lower then 160


just saying that cause I know on my car when I went to the strip(last year) it said I ran a 85.x but I crossed the line at about 92-93 something mph