82CrossfireInj

I wouldnt have taken these things seriously had my friend's dad not gotten one, i saw him at a light, and he started revving, i hit about 4k rpms, and the light changed, he got on it and b4 i knew gained a about half a length on me, but by the end i had my length and a half back, but those things, despite the weight are serious with those Hemi's in them

pasky

, wonder how they would perform in a thirdgen?

:lala: :lala: :lala:

82CrossfireInj

enough to take out a field of 350's and 305's

ShiftyCapone

iTrader: (7)

Would be about the same as an stock LS1 swap. Funny how GM created a better motor over 7 years ago that doesn't get all the hoopla that dodge gives that hemi imposter. The real hemi cars are turning in their graves.

pasky

Indeed. Behold the power of advertisement. Something GM really sucks at.

Orr89RocZ

iTrader: (20)

So you are saying that a hemi ram would get an L98 Iroc? Its funny because my one friend's dad just got one too and I know he will say something about it and may race me. Will he get me?

89Warbird

They are still big, heavy trucks!

ShiftyCapone

iTrader: (7)

No. An L98 should work over any hemi truck. They are not 14 second trucks.

7plagues

iTrader: (1)

The only times ive seen was a 15.1@92 or sumthin.... but it was 15.1..which is like poor tuned l98s

pasky

Whats the specs on the new hemi engine?

7plagues

iTrader: (1)

340 hp and like 375#s or sumthin really close... not to bad if u ask me

pasky

Indeed its not, wonder what it would take to throw one in a thirdgen. That'd be interesting to see. Lots of torque on that thing. Is it a 350 or larger displacement?

Mesix

Yep. It's a 5.7L

Got a poster of it right next to me on my wall from Car Craft.

7plagues

iTrader: (1)

all i know is that that new 300c runs a really low 14 to really high 13 and that thing weighs like 4200lbs!! So a mid 13 i think would be easy to achive in a 3rd gen... but then people will say its a mutant car and blah...

pasky

Who cares what people think. People are throwin in Ford 9"'s under thier cars. If they don't like it, thier most likely jealous. Im just curious.

Orr89RocZ

iTrader: (20)

I was hoping that these trucks werent that fast. Well he will still get me cuz I am only running 2 gears out of 700r4.

Broke it running with a Stealth TT yesterday.

Sgt.D's92RS

I raced one and he held his own but I still beat him.

3rdGenBlackBird

They are probably quicker or slower depending on the configuration. Remember you can get a hemi in the 1/2 ton,2-door, 2wd with 3.92 gears. That would cost you a little over 20k after the rebates....

They don't have the variable displacement tech like the 300c & R/T yet, I think. And they are iron blocks still (aluminum heads).

My biggest complaint is that they are only available with an auto. Otherwise I'd definately have myself a new tow truck- a patriot blue stripper hemi with a manual.

Laters,
Scott

AndrewJB

Them Ram trucks aint no punk...last spring I was playing with one in traffic. Everytime there was a break in traffic, Id floor it and try to get in front, but she did too. I couldnt get that extra clearance to get in front of her until we hit a light, then it was pretty easy. I think what helps them is they have 5 speed automatics.

btw this was when I had the stock L98

1981z28

the hemi injection system are nice and they have two sprak plugs per pistion.

my 1970 c10 350 long bed put out a stock power of 300hp and 380ft.lbs but people are not screaming about it like its a hemi. track times 16.1@89mph not bad for a 4200lbs truck. it know can hit 11s with a 541hp and 600ft.lbs 350 same motor just on $5200 worth of modds first car i ever had was a truck still got it to stil rac eit i say hemi wants a peace he can have it .

hemi,s are cool but give me a turbo fire or turbo jet chevy small block any day.

Nate86

Periods are your friend. :lala:

Orr89RocZ

iTrader: (20)

Good, but it would suck because have you seen the gas mileage those trucks get? Something like 13 miles a gallon. It may be better in a light thirdgen but your better off with LS1 because it is just better and it is GM
But it would be something different and neat I guess.

primer84z

um i have one, and it does not have 16 spark plugs. where did you get that from? and yes it is fast, but not like a lightning or anything. i have raced a couple thirdgens and ricers. the third gens are a close (car-2 cars) win (for the hemi) and ricers eat it off the line. mine is a regular cab short bed so its the lightest available. my wife was driving it and i was in the T/A and its no match for the ls1.

T/A_TERROR

does not have 16 spark plugs, are you sure, if I'm wrong I'm wrong but I think you should go out to your truck and take a recount.

1981z28

well i dont know if all hemis do but heres a site



2004 Dodge Ram 1500 Regular Cab ... Two spark plugs per cylinder and coil-over-plug ignition technology to improve the HEMI's famous





http://www.swiftindavis.com

jocww

only the originals had 2 ie 426 and earlier

primer84z

im positive. on the valve cover there are 4 on each side.

phoenix305

well they supposedley have two spark plugs per cylinder just like the old hemi's it makes for a more fuel effeicent. but i have never really looked to see but thats what the stats say. by the way watch out for the rumble bee versions of the ram they look almost excatly like the SRT-10 but they only have a hemi in them and they dont have the viper wheels but are still incredible fast for a truck.

T/A_TERROR

well I know for a fact that there are 8 coilpacks and each cp has 2 terminals, one primary fire and one secondary fire that goes to anothe sparkplu on the other side of the motor to complete combustion of an opposing cylander(or something like that). either way you will have 16 sparkplug wires under your hood. if you only have 8 plugs than 2 wires are going to one plug?

oh well, I give up on this topic, you'll find out when you do a tuneup

BadBowtie88

Best reply on here.

primer84z

stock for stock a hemi truck will beat an l98. the l98 is good off the line, but has no topend. maybe not a 4 door 2500 hemi truck, but a reg cab reg bed 1500 will take a stock l98.:lala:

nick418

I so Disagree. I say that they kinda have the same amount of TQ 345 L98, 375 Hemi. Now that hp is off yes. But the L98 is thousands of pounds lghter. You gotta think about the weight! That truck is a fuggin tank. So i say the L98 is a 14sec car but the Hemi is not due to it weight. Its a truck for crying out loud If weighed as much as a Z28, then it would be like a low 13 sec car or high 12s. But too much weight is on that truck. It would beat it from the start to the Finish. My money will be on a good tuned and runing L98.

primer84z

yes the truck weighs more, but it also has 3.92 gears compared to the 2.77 or 3.27 rear the l98 comes with. 3.92 gears plus 375 tq equals off the line power. I know it sucks, but a 6000lb truck will hang with and/or beat a stock l98. Ive done it. Hemi vs LS1, however, is no chance in hell.

phoenix305

that would have to be one crappy running L98 to loose to a ram yeah there fast for trucks but there is no way they are running 14's unless my LG4 is running low 15's stock.

primer84z

http://www.thehemi.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=308

seems to me that there are quite a few people that are running high 14's on stock trucks. Its sad but true. I used to have an lg4, and it sucked. But i did a lot of work on it and made it respectable, but if your running around in a stock lg4 or even an l98 your gonna have your hands full. But honestly, who is bone stock that races? That goes both ways, however, and youll see on that website their are many ram trucks with mods that are seing times any where from high 13's to low 12's. Im just saying dont roll up to one thinking your going to dominate it because its "a fuggin tank" or you might get surprised.

84L69TA

You would have run better if you didnt have that restrictive CFI setup on a 383.

Air_Adam

Ain't a true Hemi though... if you look at the combustion chamber shape, you'll see what I mean.

nick418

seems to me that there are quite a few people that are running high 14's on stock trucks. Its sad but true. I used to have an lg4, and it sucked. But i did a lot of work on it and made it respectable, but if your running around in a stock lg4 or even an l98 your gonna have your hands full. But honestly, who is bone stock that races? That goes both ways, however, and youll see on that website their are many ram trucks with mods that are seing times any where from high 13's to low 12's. Im just saying dont roll up to one thinking your going to dominate it because its "a fuggin tank" or you might get surprised.


hate to brake it to ya, but theres lot of good bone stock L98s runnin mid to low (esp the G92s) 14s, includin mine

if anything a L98 that runs very high 14s and Plus, are pretty bad drivers or there L98s are just old an beaten up

AM91Camaro_RS

you all may not want to believe me but i beat one of those trucks at the 1/8 mile a couple of months ago. i pulled up and saw the hemi badge and though, this could be interesting. i pulled him pretty bad...all the way down the track. my boss has one too, i want to race him but so far i haven't gotten a chance to.

88 350 tpi formula

iTrader: (9)

where are these fast hemi trucks? we were in a 89 buick 3.3 v6 and we race a shortbed hemi we get to the next light and asked if it was a hemi he looked confused and looked down at his truck and said "I thought it was" it was funny he was still fast enough to kill some hondas though

nick418

if i recall there low 15 sec trucks, which is really goood

blacknastyz28

They run allright. I mean even the SRT 10 dodge truck only runs a mid 13 with 500 hp.But for $48,000 I could build me several faster vehicles

rs coastie

raced a big crew cab hemi in my 03 blazer xtrm, he got a door on me and that was it. gets wonderin how the maro would do

LaxStreetRacer

Did you leave out the part where the guy says "excuse me, can i have my food now" J/K. Where in WI you from?

85VortecTA

I'm a bit confused, hemi trucks run 14 to high 14's, that sucks pretty bad for a 386hp motor.

Besides I raced a Magnum in my 305 PI and walked it.

1981z28

its really good they dont dart threw the wind like a bullet like 3rd gens do and the extra lbs makes a lot of differnce

85VortecTA

true, they weight like almost 6k pounds something. But a magnum is lighter and smaller, they have the hemi also right?

1981z28

but they still have no chance of getting under the wind like a 3rd gen

topless 88

My dad just got an 04 Hemi Rumble Bee. We ran it against his 91 z a few times. It depends on who gets the better jump off the line. I could beat him out but he'd pull to a fender. BTW, the Hemi has 345 hp and 385 ft lbs, but has trac control that wont let it use it all. The computer kills the power, then opens it up. Mother Mopar is working on a computer with 200 more hp for it and should be out this winter. OPPPS, almost forgot...the Z is a stock LB9 with a 700r4 and 2:73's. Hope this helps.

nick418

true, they weight like almost 6k pounds something. But a magnum is lighter and smaller, they have the hemi also right?

Yeah there UGLY but quick, THey come with i think 3 diff engines. One of em is a 2.7 V6 190hp one, 3.5 V6 0-60 8.5 secs with 250hp, and a 340hp 5.7 HEMI that goes 0-60 in 6.3 (around L98 territory) SO they fly. I think there top speed is 155mph i read . weigh around 4000 punds i herd but they go

Car And Driver

2005 Dodge Magnum

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Vehicle type: front-engine, rear- or 4-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 5-door wagon
Base price: $22,495-$29,995
Engines: DOHC 24-valve 2.7-liter V-6, 190 hp, 190 lb-ft; SOHC 24-valve 3.5-liter V-6, 250 hp, 250 lb-ft; pushrod 16-valve 5.7-liter V-8, 340 hp, 390 lb-ft

Transmissions: 4-speed automatic, 5-speed automatic with manumatic shifting
Wheelbase: 120.0 in
Length/width/height: 197.7/74.1/58.4 in
Curb weight: 3850-4350 lb
C/D-estimated performance:
Zero to 60 mph: 5.5-8.5 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 14.2-17.0 sec
Top speed (governor limited): 130 mph
Estimated fuel economy:
EPA city driving: 17-21 mpg
EPA highway driving: 23-28 mpg