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Old 11-20-2007, 04:14 AM
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89 iroc vs. type r

So my friend has this 99-01 type r with cams, and full exhaust, im running pretty much a stock lb9 with a five spd and gutted air boxes, full exhaust soon to be on the way, just wondering how i would hold up to it. my other friend has a 86 corolla making 170hp and kept up with him but lost by half a car...
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The type R will own you in every way unless he is the worlds worst driver
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Modded type-r vs. a pretty much stock lb9....

Him.
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He will own you. Put a 150 hit of dope on it, then talk trash but dont tell him. Then own him.

I sprayed a 305 for a year with a 200 shot, it finally dies due to a fuel pump going out, do it and dont look back.
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He will own you. Put a 150 hit of dope on it, then talk trash but dont tell him. Then own him.

I sprayed a 305 for a year with a 200 shot, it finally dies due to a fuel pump going out, do it and dont look back.
whats with the nitrous? thats hard on the engine.
nitrous is good, but what if you want him squinting at your taillights? well, start building something worth racing. interior weighing you down? take it out. not enough muscle? fuel injectors, high flow fuel pump, a radical cam, and some good valvetrain will do a lot. then you can get a good distributer, plugs, and wires to make him your bitch. a good clutch and flywheel will really make a difference too. you can get the airflow, so fuel delivery will make a big difference. now your not as worried about running lean as you are with nitrous.
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305's <3 nitrous, spray the hell out of it they are not worth the time to build them i know ive built mine not happy at all
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Yea, nitrous is not as hard on a engine as you think. Not in small amounts. V8s with up to 150 is no problem. Above 200 is when leaning out is a real worry, a serious amount of N2O will make your tuning window small. So go for it, if you really wanna make your little boat anchor come to life.
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Re: 89 iroc vs. type r

Ummm if you got beat by a 86 corolla your car isnt running right or you cant drive for ****. Lb9s with a 5 speed are good for 14s with a decent driver.
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I have only seen TPI 305s in the high 14s. Those corollas are lighter than you think. I have raced a T5 TBI 305 in my automatic 305 car, he got me by3 cars. He even had a Edelbrock intake and a couple of other bolt ons. My best when i ran him was a 16.50 in the 1/4. Both cars were running in tip top shape. After i installed headers i got him by 2 cars. The power on the big end just destroys theese things because they have none, the TBI motors are good for DD unless you do more than it is worth. Unless you give it laughing gas it is not cost effective to mod a 305.
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swap in an LS1 and destroy him, but seriously do nitrous if you want to beat him 305 motors arent worth building.
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Re: 89 iroc vs. type r

Originally Posted by GraveDigger
So my friend has this 99-01 type r with cams, and full exhaust, im running pretty much a stock lb9 with a five spd and gutted air boxes, full exhaust soon to be on the way, just wondering how i would hold up to it. my other friend has a 86 corolla making 170hp and kept up with him but lost by half a car...
is it a real type R or is it just a "type r"? Far as i know there arent left hand drive versions (american)
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no, it is a real type r, he bought the shell and worked his way from there, but then again i havnt seen his car in person yet, never know...
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Re: 89 iroc vs. type r

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no, it is a real type r, he bought the shell and worked his way from there, but then again i havnt seen his car in person yet, never know...
Sounds like a load of crap to me.
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Re: 89 iroc vs. type r

He's full of lies. Regardless put the spray on your engine you'll fall in love. It's kind of like boning a chubby girl, everyone that's never tried it will talk smack and tell you how terrible it is; but everyone that's been there is hooked
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Re: 89 iroc vs. type r

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Ummm if you got beat by a 86 corolla your car isnt running right or you cant drive for ****. Lb9s with a 5 speed are good for 14s with a decent driver.
I'm sure an 86 Corolla weight 2000lbs, with a motor built to 170hp, would walk a stock LB9 3500lbs/215hp F-body without breaking a sweat. It would be a closer race with a stock LS1 car.
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He's full of lies. Regardless put the spray on your engine you'll fall in love. It's kind of like boning a chubby girl, everyone that's never tried it will talk smack and tell you how terrible it is; but everyone that's been there is hooked


Uhhhmm, I wouldn't say I'm hooked, but I've been there and it was a fun ride.
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Re: 89 iroc vs. type r

Originally Posted by 1991CamaroRslow
It's kind of like boning a chubby girl, everyone that's never tried it will talk smack and tell you how terrible it is; but everyone that's been there is hooked
Gotta love that anology....
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well.. they do make left hand drive type r's. their also one of the worlds highest hp per liter engines...1.8 200hp and even higher in japan 210-220.they also come w/ LSD. you would get murdered. the integra GSR would still beat you but the type r is in a class of WS6 and SS.
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Re: 89 iroc vs. type r

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He's full of lies. Regardless put the spray on your engine you'll fall in love. It's kind of like boning a chubby girl, everyone that's never tried it will talk smack and tell you how terrible it is; but everyone that's been there is hooked


That is a great anaolgy... I will have to remember that one
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Ummm if you got beat by a 86 corolla your car isnt running right or you cant drive for ****. Lb9s with a 5 speed are good for 14s with a decent driver.
actually that car should haul 170hp in that is like 400+ in ours
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Re: 89 iroc vs. type r

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He's full of lies. Regardless put the spray on your engine you'll fall in love. It's kind of like boning a chubby girl, everyone that's never tried it will talk smack and tell you how terrible it is; but everyone that's been there is hooked
i see your point....
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actually that car should haul 170hp in that is like 400+ in ours
I dont think so, 400 HP in our cars will go deep 12s if set up right.

Might be like a stock TPI 350 maybe.
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well.. they do make left hand drive type r's. their also one of the worlds highest hp per liter engines...1.8 200hp and even higher in japan 210-220.they also come w/ LSD. you would get murdered. the integra GSR would still beat you but the type r is in a class of WS6 and SS.
Not so sure:
Paragraph 2, page 65 of August 2001 Car and Driver.

"(Concerning our estimation of RSX's 0-60 times of 6.7 seconds) Turns out that was a bit conservative because this new 200 hp replacement for the Integra got the job done in just 6.1 seconds. Furthermore, it bested the GSR's quartermile time by 0.8 seconds and 5 mph (at 14.8 seconds @ 95 mph) and even eclipsed the Type R's time of 15.2 seconds at 93 mph."

I'm pretty sure an SS is faster than those times... With those times, Any LS car would eat them alive.

Rear wheel drive rules: I ran a 201 HP 2003 Acura RSX-S with my stock '89 Formula 5-Speed (225 hp) at the track (with my son in the car), and I fully expected to get dusted *bad* by that car, but the Acura just couldn't hook the track until we were well over 40 mph. My car hooked pretty much right away, and I had him by a car length in the first sixty feet. By the end of te Q-M he was finally starting to get around me. I got beat, but it was a *very* close race. FWIW2, an SS or WS6 fourth gen. would smoke my car like it was parked.

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im not revering to a RSX. they are overweight and not geared the same.even tho the integra is not a good 1/4 mile car. the car is more for high speed racing, and handling.so i guess it really comes down to how far you are racing. either way the integra will have alot of wheel spin out of the hole.and less than enough TQ. hopfully you get a good jump. because they get going. They also have a larger powerband becuase of the vtec. they redline at 8500. its all about power to weight.

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0-60 6.2 secs. --- 1/4 14.8 96mph.
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im not revering to a RSX. they are overweight and not geared the same.even tho the integra is not a good 1/4 mile car. the car is more for high speed racing, and handling.so i guess it really comes down to how far you are racing. either way the integra will have alot of wheel spin out of the hole.and less than enough TQ. hopfully you get a good jump. because they get going. They also have a larger powerband becuase of the vtec. they redline at 8500. its all about power to weight.

2001 integra type r.
0-60 6.2 secs. --- 1/4 14.8 96mph.

Don't you mean they have a narrower powerband? They make power over from about 6000-8500rpm, they are dead below that. My 305 car makes good power from 1500rpm up to 5500rpm, which is about 80% of the engines usable operating range, verses a Vtec motoring making good power in only about 35% of its usable operating range. I wouldn't call that large, I'd call that narrow, or peaky.
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2001 integra type r.
0-60 6.2 secs. --- 1/4 14.8 96mph.
Originally Posted by 84RIceEater
the integra GSR would still beat you but the type r is in a class of WS6 and SS.
That's easily a second and a half SLOWER than a stock LS1 car. It's about even with some stock TPI cars, slower than the faster ones (350s and 5 speed 305).
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A TPI car should fear no 14.8 second import. Go race him you should kill him. If you don't come back and do a few free mods and try it again. If you still can't win buy some sticky tires. You shouldn't have to try hard to beat that car, with his mods he may be low 14's, that's easily doable in your car.
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i guess we will have to see...it really depends on how far the race is...


my money is on the type r.

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