winter 08 and $699 thats what their site is going with right now. you and i may be able to pick one up in deland if the release gets pushed back farther. they would be done with the new distribution center by then.
Where did you see a price? I looked today and it showed $0.
16 pages of pissin and moanin about wanting a new intake at nearly any cost, and then they announce a price consistent with other aftermarket EFI systems, and everyone is back to pissin and moaning about the price.
idk, im still very skeptical about it making 50+hp and tq, on a "stock" motor. with just an intake change. maybe they shoved a nice cam in there at the same time. then it would make sense.
I have always liked the look of the stock TPI or the HSR. But this intake looks kinda ugly to me, However this intake does looks a lot better than the Accel supper ram. When I look at this intake I get the feeling something is missing like the distributor cover, or it just looks a lot shorter than the stock TPI. I like how long the stock TPI unit looks.
But for its price its cheaper than getting new runners and lower intake from edelbrock or SLP's stuff and it sounds like it might out perform them too. I wounder if it has room for extra porting. I guess we will find out what people do to make this intake to look better and flow better thats just my on this.
idk, im still very skeptical about it making 50+hp and tq, on a "stock" motor. with just an intake change. maybe they shoved a nice cam in there at the same time. then it would make sense.
Like it says in the add Look at the Dyno Graphs for details, only a peak improvement of 9 Hp
The real test would be on a modified car with heads and a proper cam to see the true benifits.
Looks like they extended the powerband quite a bit though, and while the peak hp gain was only 9hp, they are making significantly more power over stock for a much longer period of time. Stock TPI is dying off faster in those 4K plus RPM's while the BBK intake is falling much slower. I think it will be a good upgrade. I have a lingenfelter ported TPI going on my motor, but I am thinking about this setup for the future. All and all I think they are headed in the right direction here.
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What's kind of funny is that I sold my TPI Corvette, bought a Z06, sold my LS1 Z28 and am buying a TPI Formula all while watching this thread. I'd really like to see another induction option on the market, but I'm not going to hold my breath over it...
It's funny. They want so much for this intake.
HSR promises the same gains. To top it off. BBK has horrible customer service. I meant to say non-existent.
I was super interested at first, then I read this thread. The more I learned the more the intake looks like a waste of money just like everything else BBK has.
What's kind of funny is that I sold my TPI Corvette, bought a Z06, sold my LS1 Z28 and am buying a TPI Formula all while watching this thread. I'd really like to see another induction option on the market, but I'm not going to hold my breath over it...
lmfao....... ........... lucikly Illinois isnt doing anymore emissions for pre 1995 cars so HSR is defintly an option for myself in the future, but I feel bad for all the guys waiting that need the emissions equip. and want a better intake for the important 4000-5600 rpm band...... As long as the quality is outstanding all of this will hopefully be forgotten.... just have to wait and see the out come, I agree with danziger... dont hold your breath .
lmfao....... ........... lucikly Illinois isnt doing anymore emissions for pre 1995 cars so HSR is defintly an option for myself in the future, but I feel bad for all the guys waiting that need the emissions equip. and want a better intake for the important 4000-5600 rpm band...... As long as the quality is outstanding all of this will hopefully be forgotten.... just have to wait and see the out come, I agree with danziger... dont hold your breath .
It's funny, yet sad at the same time.
The HSR is a good option, but I'm not thrilled about cutting the hood bracing.
The FIRST intake looks promising, but not enough people own them to get a feel for their performance.
The Miniram/LT1 has its merits, but HP gains are all over the map and they aren't cheap.
The Superram has the beefy midrange and increased HP that I want, but is hideously ugly and there are so many stories about leaks and fitment.
Anyways, I have high hopes for the BBK, but it has taken longer than the new Camaro to get into production...
Ok, so I contacted BBK about intake port size and after explaining to them what 1206 sized intake port was they said it would be oem sized but able to be ported. Which didnt help a whole lot but i take that to mean it wont be like the HSR(not enough metal to port). I also asked whether it would withstand high boost pressure being that it is a 3 peice design. I got no answer which means A: they dont care or B: it wont and or they are unsure that it will. Either way Ill stick with the miniram.
It was pretty dissapointing to be honest. Firstly that he didnt know what the hell i was talking about. Secondly he didnt give me any info as to what the port size is or even just what gasket they used would help. Very vague. Not what i would expect from someone in the tech/R&D department.
"It should fit performance heads and it will also be port-able if you feel like you nee to do some grinding on it." Thats straight from the horses mouth. But like I said before and explained to him, other intakes say they "fit" performance heads but dont match port size and cannot be ported to match.
I'm not impressed at all...guess we'll have to wait and see how it does on once it FINALLY comes out...don't the LS1tech guys are waiting on the Weiand Street Warrior for just as long, well noy THIS long but you know..sucks waiting and waiting...I think I'll go with the First Injection Setup..when I have the cash too.
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JK. so did we find out what the verdict is on if it will match to a 1206 intake port? and if it will hand boost pressure?
