Ok Let's See Some Minirams
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 2,516
Likes: 5
From: San Antonio TX
Car: 1990 G92 IROC Z Miniram
Engine: 388cu 6.4 Liters
Transmission: G-Force T5
Axle/Gears: 3.73 Gears
Ok Let's See Some Minirams
What are some of your opinions about them. Here's mine!



It made 409whp at 6000.



It made 409whp at 6000.
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 5,364
Likes: 51
From: Enschede, Netherlands
Car: 82 TA 87 IZ L98 88 IZ LB9 88 IZ L98
Engine: 5.7TBI 5,7TPI 5.0TPI, 5,7TPI
Transmission: T5, 700R4, T5, 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.08, 3.27, 3.45, 3.27
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 25,895
Likes: 429
From: Pittsburgh PA
Car: 89 Iroc-z
Engine: 555 BBC Turbo
Transmission: TH400
Axle/Gears: MWC 9” 3.00
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams

my buddy's 94 TA with 406 miniram motor from his old 87 TA
Old pic of first install but since then its been running well. 10.6's at 130mph all motor with a 6 speed. Miniram getting it done Supreme Member

Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,151
Likes: 0
From: Osceola Indiana
Car: 92 RS(sold) 1989 IROC-Z
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: ones that turn
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
Any more specs on that engine I've been throwing around the idea of building a mini rammed 406
Member
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 199
Likes: 1
From: Allegan, MI
Car: 89' camaro RS TTOP
Engine: 92 5.0tpi Bosch III, headers, msd
Transmission: 700r4 built. trans go. 2,300 stall
Axle/Gears: 3:73 posi ls disc brake conversion
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 25,895
Likes: 429
From: Pittsburgh PA
Car: 89 Iroc-z
Engine: 555 BBC Turbo
Transmission: TH400
Axle/Gears: MWC 9” 3.00
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
Originally Posted by 92RS(real slow)
Any more specs on that engine I've been throwing around the idea of building a mini rammed 406
T56 trans, i think 3.73 gears now, 28" tire. Spraying a 175 shot it went 9.88 at 142 with a slipping clutch
87_TA is the guy on this board. Its now a SHP block 406 with a single plane EFI intake, same heads/cam. T56 is getting rebuilt/faceplated since it broke so it hasnt run yet to its full potential with the new block/intake, but it made over 500whp
I thought it was like 520's but I have to find the thread. Trending Topics
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 12,226
Likes: 1,156
From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
Last edited by TTOP350; Sep 15, 2011 at 05:23 PM.
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 545
Likes: 23
From: IN
Car: 88, 89 & 91 GTA
Engine: 355 Super Ram/350
Transmission: TH-375/700R4
Axle/Gears: Currie Ford 9"/3.70
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
Twin_Turbo: Is that car on You Tube? I saw a car like it earlier. Sick man, sick! Awesome ride!
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 5,364
Likes: 51
From: Enschede, Netherlands
Car: 82 TA 87 IZ L98 88 IZ LB9 88 IZ L98
Engine: 5.7TBI 5,7TPI 5.0TPI, 5,7TPI
Transmission: T5, 700R4, T5, 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.08, 3.27, 3.45, 3.27
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
Yes it's on Youtube. It's my buddies, I built most of it for him.
Member
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 181
Likes: 0
From: INDY
Car: 85-Vette
Engine: 406ci
Transmission: TKO-600
Axle/Gears: 3:45
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 10,538
Likes: 206
From: NYC / Jersey
Car: 1990 Trans Am GTA
Engine: Turbo 305 w/MS2
Transmission: 700R4
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
Originally Posted by LD85

Member
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 181
Likes: 0
From: INDY
Car: 85-Vette
Engine: 406ci
Transmission: TKO-600
Axle/Gears: 3:45
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 12,099
Likes: 126
From: SALEM, NH
Car: '88 Formula
Engine: LC9
Transmission: 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 3.89 9"
Member

Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 362
Likes: 19
From: Tavares, Florida
Car: Camaro
Engine: 350-Vortec-carbed
Transmission: 700-r4
Axle/Gears: stockola, right now anyhow
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 25,895
Likes: 429
From: Pittsburgh PA
Car: 89 Iroc-z
Engine: 555 BBC Turbo
Transmission: TH400
Axle/Gears: MWC 9” 3.00
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
Originally Posted by anesthes
What heads?
-- Joe
-- Joe
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 12,099
Likes: 126
From: SALEM, NH
Car: '88 Formula
Engine: LC9
Transmission: 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 3.89 9"
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
I'm assuming the car was around 3700lbs with driver.
That's why I felt the power was down a bit on that 421.
I'm kinda psyched to see the SBC fit soo well with dizzy in the engine bay. It's gotten to the point where v6 4th gens are under $1500 all day with nice bodies, which would make a nice daily driver with a 350 + 700R4.
-- Joe
Supreme Member
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 1,081
Likes: 3
From: Peoria, IL USA
Car: 91 GTA
Engine: 377ci
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: QP Ford 9" 3.70s
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
Really wish they had a drooling happy face in here. Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 12,099
Likes: 126
From: SALEM, NH
Car: '88 Formula
Engine: LC9
Transmission: 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 3.89 9"
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 25,895
Likes: 429
From: Pittsburgh PA
Car: 89 Iroc-z
Engine: 555 BBC Turbo
Transmission: TH400
Axle/Gears: MWC 9” 3.00
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
See, this is my point in the other thread. A heavy 4th gen, with a 406, miniram, and smallish cam like you say and AFR 195 heads goes 127mph. We're talking over 600 flywheel horsepower.
I'm assuming the car was around 3700lbs with driver.
I'm assuming the car was around 3700lbs with driver.
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 769
Likes: 51
From: Zebulon, nc
Car: 1990 GTA/1989 Iroc
Engine: L98/383
Transmission: 700r4/t56 magnum
Axle/Gears: 9"
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 12,099
Likes: 126
From: SALEM, NH
Car: '88 Formula
Engine: LC9
Transmission: 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 3.89 9"
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
-- Joe
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 106
Likes: 6
From: Canton, MI
Car: 87 Formula 350,11.65@122
Engine: 383,AFR Comp 195,XFI280,SRam/Mram
Transmission: T-56 Magnum-F
Axle/Gears: DANA 44 with 3.92
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
I c u made the switch from the superram to the miniram...do u think it was worth it? I'm thinking about swapping my superram system for a miniram or stealth ram. I saw in a earlier post your making more hp and lost some tq. What your overall opinion of the switch? Thx
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 5,364
Likes: 51
From: Enschede, Netherlands
Car: 82 TA 87 IZ L98 88 IZ LB9 88 IZ L98
Engine: 5.7TBI 5,7TPI 5.0TPI, 5,7TPI
Transmission: T5, 700R4, T5, 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.08, 3.27, 3.45, 3.27
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 2,516
Likes: 5
From: San Antonio TX
Car: 1990 G92 IROC Z Miniram
Engine: 388cu 6.4 Liters
Transmission: G-Force T5
Axle/Gears: 3.73 Gears
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
I c u made the switch from the superram to the miniram...do u think it was worth it? I'm thinking about swapping my superram system for a miniram or stealth ram. I saw in a earlier post your making more hp and lost some tq. What your overall opinion of the switch? Thx
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 10,538
Likes: 206
From: NYC / Jersey
Car: 1990 Trans Am GTA
Engine: Turbo 305 w/MS2
Transmission: 700R4
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
Originally Posted by DAVECS1
I want those valve covers so bad I do not even know how to express myself.
Really wish they had a drooling happy face in here....
Really wish they had a drooling happy face in here....
Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
me too, willing to pay top dollar too....
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 25,895
Likes: 429
From: Pittsburgh PA
Car: 89 Iroc-z
Engine: 555 BBC Turbo
Transmission: TH400
Axle/Gears: MWC 9” 3.00
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
3400lbs? What was removed? I had two 4th gens, and they weighed a heck of a lot more than any of my third gens ( But not quite as much as my second gens) I think the firebird was around 3500 and the camaro a little more. PLUS driver.
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 12,226
Likes: 1,156
From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
Quote:
Originally Posted by DAVECS1
I want those valve covers so bad I do not even know how to express myself. Really wish they had a drooling happy face in here....
Quote:
Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
me too, willing to pay top dollar too....
Thanx guys, I got my valve covers from GM
Originally Posted by DAVECS1
I want those valve covers so bad I do not even know how to express myself. Really wish they had a drooling happy face in here....
Quote:
Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
me too, willing to pay top dollar too....
Thanx guys, I got my valve covers from GM
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 10,538
Likes: 206
From: NYC / Jersey
Car: 1990 Trans Am GTA
Engine: Turbo 305 w/MS2
Transmission: 700R4
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
Yeah those valve covers are sweet! Here's a link, third set down....;
http://www.jrgmparts.com/GM_Performa..._small_bl.html
http://www.jrgmparts.com/GM_Performa..._small_bl.html
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 5,364
Likes: 51
From: Enschede, Netherlands
Car: 82 TA 87 IZ L98 88 IZ LB9 88 IZ L98
Engine: 5.7TBI 5,7TPI 5.0TPI, 5,7TPI
Transmission: T5, 700R4, T5, 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.08, 3.27, 3.45, 3.27
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
Summit says they are discontinued, as do other suppliers. A lot of sites still lsit them but I haven't found anyone that still has them. I only found a guy selling 1 cover
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 10,538
Likes: 206
From: NYC / Jersey
Car: 1990 Trans Am GTA
Engine: Turbo 305 w/MS2
Transmission: 700R4
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
Some places still seem to have them stocked though....
http://www.karlperformanceparts.com/...?idproduct=244
http://www.karlperformanceparts.com/...?idproduct=244
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 12,226
Likes: 1,156
From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
Guess I should say that Ive had them 4 prolly 10years or more
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 5,364
Likes: 51
From: Enschede, Netherlands
Car: 82 TA 87 IZ L98 88 IZ LB9 88 IZ L98
Engine: 5.7TBI 5,7TPI 5.0TPI, 5,7TPI
Transmission: T5, 700R4, T5, 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.08, 3.27, 3.45, 3.27
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
See, as I suspected..no longer available... TTOP, in a selling mood? 
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry, discontinued and no dealers nationwide show having any stock.
Thanks for checking with us!
--Adam
Adam Moore
Karl Chevrolet Inc.
Karl Performance Parts
Team Lead & Performance Parts Specialist

--------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry, discontinued and no dealers nationwide show having any stock.
Thanks for checking with us!
--Adam
Adam Moore
Karl Chevrolet Inc.
Karl Performance Parts
Team Lead & Performance Parts Specialist
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 12,226
Likes: 1,156
From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
lol Not today!! I have a guy doing some checking to see if any are around.
Did you check old Nascar team used parts places??
Did you check old Nascar team used parts places??
See, as I suspected..no longer available... TTOP, in a selling mood? 
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry, discontinued and no dealers nationwide show having any stock.
Thanks for checking with us!
--Adam
Adam Moore
Karl Chevrolet Inc.
Karl Performance Parts
Team Lead & Performance Parts Specialist

--------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry, discontinued and no dealers nationwide show having any stock.
Thanks for checking with us!
--Adam
Adam Moore
Karl Chevrolet Inc.
Karl Performance Parts
Team Lead & Performance Parts Specialist
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 5,364
Likes: 51
From: Enschede, Netherlands
Car: 82 TA 87 IZ L98 88 IZ LB9 88 IZ L98
Engine: 5.7TBI 5,7TPI 5.0TPI, 5,7TPI
Transmission: T5, 700R4, T5, 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.08, 3.27, 3.45, 3.27
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
yeas, that's where I found 1. Terry Rosebush had only 1 cover, NIB. The other set I ound came with the pontiac racing heads, mucho $$$$$
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 12,226
Likes: 1,156
From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
Hmm GM also used to sell the same covers but blank.
If those are still around, you could buy the 1 NIB cover, a blank one then CNC the Pontiac font in the blank..
If those are still around, you could buy the 1 NIB cover, a blank one then CNC the Pontiac font in the blank..
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 5,364
Likes: 51
From: Enschede, Netherlands
Car: 82 TA 87 IZ L98 88 IZ LB9 88 IZ L98
Engine: 5.7TBI 5,7TPI 5.0TPI, 5,7TPI
Transmission: T5, 700R4, T5, 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.08, 3.27, 3.45, 3.27
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
The blank ones are still available. I had been thinking about that, having the pontiac script cut into them. Anyone have a DXF or so of the script?
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 12,226
Likes: 1,156
From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
I havent looked forever but how much are the blank covers??
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 5,364
Likes: 51
From: Enschede, Netherlands
Car: 82 TA 87 IZ L98 88 IZ LB9 88 IZ L98
Engine: 5.7TBI 5,7TPI 5.0TPI, 5,7TPI
Transmission: T5, 700R4, T5, 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.08, 3.27, 3.45, 3.27
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
Looks like the blank ones are discontinues too... FFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!!
I think they were something like 140 a pop, had to order 2 to get a set.
Looks like this guy wants 250 per cover
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GM-Pe...c#ht_534wt_939
A little bit much
I think they were something like 140 a pop, had to order 2 to get a set.
Looks like this guy wants 250 per cover
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GM-Pe...c#ht_534wt_939
A little bit much
Last edited by Twin_Turbo; Oct 4, 2011 at 04:40 AM.
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 12,226
Likes: 1,156
From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
Wow Id say so! i paid 250ish for both of mine out the door from GM..
Supreme Member
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 1,081
Likes: 3
From: Peoria, IL USA
Car: 91 GTA
Engine: 377ci
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: QP Ford 9" 3.70s
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
Did not realize this conversation fired back up :-) Yea I have looked everywhere for these. They are officially hens teeth. I even looked for the tool that was used to cast them. No luck. There are several places that will do custom CNC sets for a reasonable price but to me it just is not as convincing, for that OEM look. I was looking at getting a silicon sticker made with the pointiac exctement logo and putting it on an aluminum fab valve cover, best I could come up with.
Last edited by DAVECS1; Oct 4, 2011 at 07:43 PM.
Supreme Member
iTrader: (33)
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 5,945
Likes: 1
From: Boosted Land
Car: 92 Z28
Engine: Boosted LSX
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
I can make a file of the pontiac script if I find a good picture of it.
Always loved the look of the mini ram.
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 1,420
Likes: 5
From: Byhalia MS, just south of memphis
Car: 89 Firebird
Engine: 6.0 LS
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: 3.70
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
2 ques, for you guys that have the factory serp setup, what did you do for clearance on the alt side where the lug is on the back side close to the valve cover?
my other ques is, whats this i was reading about the water neck issue?
my other ques is, whats this i was reading about the water neck issue?
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 106
Likes: 6
From: Canton, MI
Car: 87 Formula 350,11.65@122
Engine: 383,AFR Comp 195,XFI280,SRam/Mram
Transmission: T-56 Magnum-F
Axle/Gears: DANA 44 with 3.92
Re: Ok Let's See Some Minirams
It still needs more tuning. It was too rich from 3500 to 5000rpms. The A/F was reading 10.8-12.3 in that range due to too much pump shot. Next at the Dyno it will be corrected and the TQ will be higher. I swapped the Super Ram for the Miniram for free. I didn't have to pay for anything. So yea for me it was worth it.















