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Old Jun 4, 2002 | 04:46 PM
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guage clusters?

will the 82-89 camaro guage clusters fit onto a 92 RS??
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Old Jun 4, 2002 | 06:34 PM
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I've seen people put 91-92 clusters in the older cars so I would think you could go the other way with some rewiring if you had all the parts. But why??
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Old Jun 5, 2002 | 09:55 AM
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Sho,

Pre 1990 Camaro clusters, 1982-1989 are insterchangeable. Using an older cluster in a 1990-92 model would be quite difficult.

The 1982-1989 models are cable driven.

1990+ are electronic (speedo).
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Old Jun 5, 2002 | 06:03 PM
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reason is dakota digital makes a panel for 82-89 camaros but not 90-92....selective bastards....grrrrr....neway i was just wondering if i would be able to use their panel on mine without any/much mod'ing.
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Old Jun 6, 2002 | 09:43 AM
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Well,

In fact you might. I beleive the operation of the speedometer is the only difference. Now you may need to re-wire the pin-outs, but all of the levels gauges (Temp, Oil, Fuel) work on the same Ohm scale through 1992. So, you can at least wire 3/4 gauges for sure. This is assuming the cluster physically fits in your dash.

There are devices out there which will accept electrical pulses, and drive a cable. But I believe they were in the neiborhood of $180-250. Look around for T-56 conversion articles for 1982-1989 Camaros. Name of product escapes me at the moment.

Yeah, it's possible. But, it may wind up costing more than the cluster itself.

You could run a cable drive in your tailhousing, but you would be cheating the ECM of it's signal. 90-92 signal is send through buffer box to ECM. 1985-1989 ECM gets signal right from instrument cluster.

Yeah, it's doable, but for a seamless install, your gonna have to do some stiching.
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Old Jun 6, 2002 | 11:55 AM
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This is out in right field but I thought you might know Ryan...

I dont have my gauge cluster in but have you or do you know anyone that has swapped the position of the tach and speedo on a 90-92 camaro cluster. I have a feeling it would have to be a major rewiring not worth undertaking. I have been trying get hold of a 145 dash so I can do my gauge upgrades but since i dont have one yet it is holding me up ordering gauge faces and redoing the lighting. With the way I drive the speedo is in the wrong spot. Always blocked by my arm.

Just wondering...
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Old Jun 6, 2002 | 06:36 PM
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Wow,

Did I open the floodgates, or what!?

I'm probably the last person who will stand up and say "impossible." Anything within natural laws is possible.

OK, my input is bordering on useless in this thread.

There is a drive motor behind that speedometer which has a 1-1 1/4 inch protrusion from the otherwise flat back side of your cluster. This motor drive the meters (odo, trip).

The tach has four lamp sockets behind it for warning lamps (security, shift, etc.)

If your dash (not familiar with 90-92 dash shape, behind cluster) has space (cutting?) for the protrusion, and you have 3 days to fabricate a new circuit and housing. Go for it. Essentially, it is just wiring. I would take the lazy approach and slouch to the other side to see the tach.

I am not sure how familiar you are with the flexible circuit on the back of your cluster. It may be possible to shave off insulation and use cold solder to redirect the circuits to flexible wires. I don't care for cold solder. Ideally the copper should be crimped to, but I cannot think of any available means to do that, nor available crimps.

If Aussies can convert the Firebird dash to RH drive, anything is possible.
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Old Jun 6, 2002 | 07:49 PM
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I while have to pull out my spare 110 gauge cluster that I can pull apart and really look at. It was suppose to be a 140 dammit. I was thinking about the circuit board on back. I will have to see how it is mapped out. I dont think the the 140 cluster would be much different. Something that I was just thinking about at work.

I have investigated at all. Sort of a geeh i wonder.
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Old Jun 6, 2002 | 09:34 PM
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thanks for the info
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Old Jun 6, 2002 | 11:20 PM
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The housings, and fex circuit are the same for both 110 and 140. What ever mods you do, could be used with a 140 speedo head when one becomes available; provided you keep the speedometer removable (not welding it in place.)

Welcome on the info. :lala:
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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 12:13 AM
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If a digital gauge cluster is what you there is a company called Nordskog that makes one for the 91-92 camaros. It is direct fit. It sells for $389.95 in Summit. This is also cheaper than what Dakota Digital wants for there 82-89 kit I believe.
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Old Jun 8, 2002 | 06:39 PM
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thats david ill check that out right now
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Old Jun 8, 2002 | 06:46 PM
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hey i just checked it and i only see the guages for 84-90, but im sure that if it fits in the 90 it will fit right into mine without much problem, unless someone knows differently.
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Old Jun 8, 2002 | 08:58 PM
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I'm going through the same question myself. I want to put an 86 gauge cluster in an 83. I'm using the 86 tranny, so its electical drive speedo already. I don't really want to post a new topic since these are so closly related, so.
thanks
aaron

83 trans am
84 trans am
86 trans am
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Old Jun 9, 2002 | 01:13 AM
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In the new Summit catalog they show one for 84-90 and one for 91-92. The 91-92 one is part# NRD-DP4005 and the price $389.99 You can call them and ask them if they for sure have it, but I am positive they do because it is in all their catalogs. I also checked the part number on their website and it came up right and in stock.
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Old Jun 9, 2002 | 01:16 AM
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The previous post was referring to the digital gauge question.
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Old Jun 9, 2002 | 06:04 PM
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Guys,

Catalog is likely is not correct. 1990-1992 should be same part.

Electronic speedo's first appeared in 1990 on Camaros. Housings are the same from 1990-1992.

1989 and earlier Camaros are cable driven.

1986 and later Firebirds are electronic. The sender is easily swapped between cable and electronic on the transmission. Only complication is ensuring the correct drive and driven gears.

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