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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 09:49 AM
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Never going to get it the way I want it

I swear. My car will never look the way I want. Got it back from the shop yesterday....well, it only matches as long as there's a shadow over it, as soon as the sun hits it it doesnt match worth a damn.

The orange stripe doesnt match and there's a f*cking CHIP on the other fender (they did not repaint this from the accident but it has been repainted twice) oh, I am NOT a happy camper here.

When i picked it up it was dark as heck and I could see that it wasnt right...now i don't quite know what to do here...
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 10:40 AM
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wow, i really feel sorry for you. you've had this on going battle with paint for a while. if you are really unsatisfied and the shop that painted your car is a good one, then take it back and show them what you don't like, and they should fix it.
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 11:59 AM
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Hey SilverSC,

Here's what I would recommend. Tell em to either paint it so it's a perfect match, otherwise you want the entire car repainted.

Remember the important thing, you were the one who got hit right? Therefore the insurance belonging to the guy who hit you has to pay the money to get the car back in the shape that it was before.
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 01:02 PM
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Yeah, I would take it back until it matches. If it doesn't match and they can't get it to, you should be entitled to a new paint job. Good luck.
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 01:30 PM
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Any pictures?
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 01:58 PM
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Most shops should/will re-do it until you are happy with it. I just got my 2.8 painted. I must have gone there 4 or 5 times and each time found something different for them to fix. They weren't too happy with me, but they did the work. I guess that's the best thing that I can say about Maaco.

Here's a second on the request for pics.

Good luck with it.

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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 05:27 PM
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Dont feel bad man....i brought my car back my shop 3 times before they got it right...Hey....its not there money thats paying for it so why should i have a crappy job...its going to be dont my way and to my specifications....they dont like that......ill be glad to take my buisness somewhere else im sure someone would love the $$.
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 05:46 PM
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Take it back..

There is no sense in getting something you don't like...

You can always just make them re-paint the whole car......but jesus, paint matching can't be THAT hard, I remember a shop where i used to live would do some laser thing to examine the current paint and make one that could match the new paint.......I'm no paint expert, but it might be hard....
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 08:25 PM
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take it back!!!
if you are not happy, you need to be. from what I remember you paid alot of money for that paint job.
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 12:06 PM
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i agree with these guys also, take it back untill you are happy...
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 05:35 PM
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How bout this one ...

When Maaco painted my 2.8, they let some paint get in under the T-Tops. Now every time it rains, my passenger seat and rear seats get soaked. A puddle even forms in the foot area of the back seats.

Now are they liable for fixing this? It wasnt like that when they got the car, but it was when I got it back. I know the rubber weather stripping around the T-tops is not cheap by any means. Should I even try to get them to replace it? It has been a couple months since the painting, but my dad, who drives the car, just told me about it tonight.

Let me know what you think.

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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 09:48 PM
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I would take it back tomorrow. They are hoping you don't return. If you or the insurance is paying then it should be done right. If they won't do it right contact the insurance company. Most shops don't want the bad rep so they will try to get it right.
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 10:34 PM
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IMO if it'll never be right, move up to another Third Gen if you can now, Z28 or IROC-Z, something TPI at least. You'll have more fun.

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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 10:53 PM
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Take it back and make them get it right. They may not like you for it, but that's their problem. Why grumble and curse every time you look at it? You didn't screw it up - they did. Don't just live with it.
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 11:45 PM
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don't get to many ideas; sure you shouldn't accept a bad paintjob. but certain paints aren't going to match exactly perfect when sprayed separately. especially two panels and two different times.

sure there is alot they can do to get close, but if it matches close you may be out of luck. alot of things can happen to make it hard to do such.

not to say you shouldn't try to fight it, you should. just don't get upset if there isn't anything they can do. although you have alot more rights until you drive off with the car. once you do that it's up to the shop to help you or not.

good luck with it.
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 03:14 PM
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Wait until a nice sunny say, take it up there, get the foreman, and ask him if he sees anything wrong.

Sometimes it's a delicate balance between getting what you want the way you want it and them deciding you're becoming a royal pain in the taillights.

Good luck
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 03:42 PM
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Originally posted by TorchRay
Dont feel bad man....i brought my car back my shop 3 times before they got it right...Hey....its not there money thats paying for it so why should i have a crappy job...its going to be dont my way and to my specifications....they dont like that......ill be glad to take my buisness somewhere else im sure someone would love the $$.
Not trying to start a flame war here....., but here goes. If you only knew what insurance companies actually pay the shops for such work you wouldn't be so quick to bash bodyshops. Shops don't make up an amount to be paid for a job, the INSURANCE companies do. They have a set number of hours of paint and prep time. If the shop is doing it over, it is the shop paying for the paint and labor. The key word is "condition before accident" if you have an early 90's car you won't get a paint job for a 2003 model. Old paint is hard to match - due to fading and oxidation. Most insurance companies won't repaint an entire car just because the customer isn't completely satisfied. Some colors are hard to match. Lets see some pictures before we all agree that it's a bad paint job.

"its going to be dont my way and to my specifications....they dont like that......ill be glad to take my buisness somewhere else im sure someone would love the $$."

for the amount of money a shop is getting paid for paintwork it's not worth having a nit-picky customer that will never be happy.
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 03:54 PM
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You're right....but her car was repainted recently. Out of her own pocket by this particular shop. The paint is not old. It is new.
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 03:58 PM
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Doh...Silver that really sucks, I really feel for ya, you've been dealing with this for quite a while now.

Yeah I hear silver's hard to match... I'd say a repaint would've been (and maybe still is) in order.
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 04:17 PM
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Originally posted by 3.1EyeCandy
You're right....but her car was repainted recently. Out of her own pocket by this particular shop. The paint is not old. It is new.
Silver is one of the hardest colors to paint. The paint contains flecks of metallic. When you spray the metallic paints, you have no control over how those flecks fall. I'm sorry you are having so much trouble with your paint. I'd suggest researching a paint shop before handing over the keys. Keep in mind a good paint job will run a few thousand dollars, not a few hundred. You always get what you pay for.
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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 02:09 PM
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That's true too. When insurance companies are involved, the paint places don't make out like the bandits everyone thinks they are. The only reason I came out with a very satisfactory paint job when I was in a similar situation was because I dropped almost another grand on top of what the insurance company was covering to ensure that I was getting a great paint job and that the shop was getting fair compensation for that labor.

The insurance company was fighting me over replacing an original strut that got bent in the accident, saying that it had so many miles on it it was bound to be replaced soon anyway. My stance was that it was fine before the accident and their driver's accident bent it therefore they should buy the new one.
Talking with the shop foreman I knew he was gonna get screwed as bad as I was so we came do the deal that I'd make up some of what the insurance company was going to screw them out of and I'd get basically a $2500 paint job for around a grand.

And that's what I got.

Like I said, those situations are a delicate balance.

Hmm, maybe I don't want my next thirdgen in silver...

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Naaaah, silver looks too damn good.
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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 09:03 PM
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That sux man. You know what the probably did. They probably just looked in the book for the paint code for your car. Then they just sprayed it on thinking everything will be fine. Well dont forget paint will fade as it gets older so the book is wrong. They should have some way to take a paint sample from the car and match it into a computer that will give them the right paint color, slightly faded and all. I feel your car was painted by someone who either didnt know or didnt care. Either way thats no good for you. How many times was it painted before? Where did you take it? How much? Any warrenty or garentee? Did the shop have alot of cars in it at the time? What kinda cars were in the shop? Did anyone else ask these same questions that I might have overlooked? lol oh well.....My Dad use to manage several shops when I was growing up. So I have seen alot of what REALLY goes on in a body shop. Yeah You people that worked there know what I'm talking about. lol......
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Old Dec 18, 2002 | 02:21 PM
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ya take it back until you are happy with it.
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Old Dec 19, 2002 | 03:21 PM
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most important thing is to be cool and calm about it with them. Just be politeand say u r not happy with it and bring it bavck on a sunny day. Im sureif u r nice about it they will want to help u moreand wont be ****** good luck.
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