"THE CAR" it's not my car but close enough.... a close friends.. any way the car was a 305 tbi with out hedders stock it ran a best of 10.3 in the 1/8 with 140 hp and 210 tq.... so then we installed hedders with true dule 2 1/4 > Exhaust.. then we dino'ed it agen at 150 hp with 230 tq.. witch ran a best of 10.03 in the 1/8 damm so close to the 9's.... so we said f*ck it and he bought a 383 (he he) "THE STATS" its a 350 bored .30 over with a stroker kit with flat top forged pistons..stock 882 heads(witch suck) and roller rockers.. hedders..and a preformer intake with a holley 750 carb...



now the 383 pumped out 250hp with 310 tq on the chassie dino...:hail:

the motor keeps on eating alternators up the count is up to 4 for the last 2 weeks...

kills: 2001 ram air 6 speed-gained up to a car in 2nd
: 2001 rustang gt....wow i didnt know those car were that slow

: it sat right nexed to "no4njunk's" car and he's in the hight 8's.....

the sacrifice of putting the motor in when it was snowing really sucked...but for 2-17 year old's we did the swap in about 2 days

it took longer to put his hedders in (with the 305 tbi) than to swap motors.. even from fuel injection to carberated....

any ways i just thought you would like to know the stats.. i will post some pics.....dosent the car look like a sleeper

 

THE MOTOR

 

THE OTHER SIDE

 

THE CAR

 

THE INTERIOR

 

THE MOTOR

 

LOL NO OFFICER THERE STILL SOME TRED LEFT :nono:

 

AWWW sH*T I PUT IT IN THE WRONG BORD.... DAMMIT CAN SOMMBODY MOVE IT TO Appearance and Detailing THANKS

 

Thats awesome, but whats it got to do with V6 tech?

 

CAN YOU NOT READ LOOK ABOVE TO THE NEXED POST !!!

 

That's cool, but is he running some kind of stock cam to only put 250 horsepower and 310 ft/lbs to the wheels with a 383? If I invested anything in a stroker, I'd be pissed off with those numbers.

As far as the alternators.. maybe you should try testing the battery to see if it's holding a charge well. Check for a drain with the car shut off, and check for a voltage loss between the alternator and battery. Could be a wiring issue or a bad battery.

 

Well yes the RW HP and torque aren't that impressive now, but if he has the bottom end he has room to go. Read the post, he's using 882 heads which are a large chamber smog head. SOme times you go with what you have due to $, but he can bolt on some better heads and make more power. Is that a stick car? WOn't be long he'll lunch that T5!

Eric

 

he only paied 750$ for the motor....lol and he has a real small cam to match a the converter...my heads are going in his car as of today...i will the the dyno results on friday...they a r 74 cc milled 30thousants..with 194intack 164 ported and polished.....

 

He has a good little sleeper going on. He's going to be at hooters Saturday isn't he?

 

what year is ur car, btw i like that 383, that will haul

 

Please don't think I'm trying to flame, but you REALLY beat a 2001 ram air 6 speed? You know they dyno over 300hp stock right? If it was a 6 speed it definately could have been driver error, but a car length just through 2nd gear? hmmm...

It is definately a sleeper, that has to be a ton of fun messin with people!! You are right on about the Mustangs....poor guys didn't realize what they were buying of coarse I can't say that about the 03 cobra anymore...wow those are fast!!

 

yea I find it weird that it killed an LS1 six speed, but the engine swap looks very clean and tidy. Nice job.

 

250hp won't beat an LS1 unless the driver was asleep. That's way too much of a horsepower gap, and considering those tires, a traction gap too.

 

so what do you think is wrong with your engine? I assume thats what this post is about, you being confused why your 383 is only making 250hp when guys build 383's over 400hp all over the U.S.

 

first off i know that a 2001 ram air is fast but i was with him when this happened.... therefor for what i could tell he was shifting pritty good...

dont forget that those numbers are from the rear wheels...

i think the heads are hurrting him the most ... he put my heads on his car today.... so friday we will know what kind of results he should get....

yes gator well be there...

thank you for saying that we did a good job...it was a lot of hard work espicaly in the snow..

here are some more dyno graphs..

 

he now has new tires on the rear the tires in the pic were changed shortly after that was takin...

 

Don't beat it too bad

 

I have a 98 Z28 which is the weakest of the LS1's, and I dyno'ed 302hp, 326tq bone stock with a 6 speed and 32,xxx miles. I'll give you the traction since you took off from a roll, but my #'s are rear wheel also....I don't get it?? Either way, congrats on a great kill!?!

 

So are the numbers we are quoting. The LS1s are quite underrated. Most of them put 300+ to the rear wheels.

 

well im not arguing that fact but ...i was there so???? i dont know...

 

you might wanna consider relocating that tach over to where I have mine. I USED to have mine where yours is, but I've found that this new spot has allowed me easier access to read my tach. Ok, I know that I have an aftermarket wheel that prolly makes it a lot easier to see the tach. Just thought I share..

[edit] anyone know how I can make my pictures smaller?

 

thats nice work for a cuple of 17 y/old sin the snow . . . im jealous cause i wont change a tire in the snow....

anyways - that dyno sheet looks a lot like my 355.... and i cant come near any LS1 . ..
ive been to many many LS1 dynoes, and there aint no way that car was pullin anything but a bad driver or someone who wasnt really racing . .

anyways - when you get more good parts on a 383, it'l be something to keep an eye out for . . .

 

What type of crank and rods does the new motor have forged or cast steel and what type of pistons. The heads and intake are killing that motor.

 

...my heads are going in his car as of today...i will the the dyno results on friday...they a r 74 cc milled 30thousants..with 194intack 164 ported and polished.....

update: the heads are on and i think they help him alot....throws head back now....any way if another person calls me a lyer about the ls1 than you gayyyyyy....i said it once and ill say it agin this realy happend....the guy was racing so get the **** over it.....

 

READ BEFORE YOU ASK LOOK AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE......

 

I saw that the motor had forged piston. But it does not say anything about what type of crank or rods are in the motor. I am just tring to see if the motor was built was quality stuff or ****ty stuff.

ALSO READ MY QUESTION BEFORE YOU POST A SMART A$$ REPLY.

So how fast to you think it will run now. Maybe high 8's

 

I think that he may have bought a built 305 cause any stroker makes at least 380+ to the wheels and he even has a manuel trans which doesnt take as much rear wheel horsepower away Im not trying to flame you or anything but something is really wrong even with new heads and intake it isnt gonna give it 100+ horsepower to the rear wheels but the motor looks good so thumbs up to that. Also what gears are in the car?

 

yea um...no....heres some details....they are forged trw duel valve releafe pistons...flat tops....he has a stroker kit in the bottom it is a 383......this is a stroker kit you but out of summit or such...anywho the motor has a small cam it had ****ty heads but now it dose not so he will have to dino the car agin.....as soon as he quit snapping grade 8 bolts (the ones that connect the bellhousing to the motor) any why you are absolutly wrong...about the 383 making millions of hp and tourq.....do not forget that these #s are frome the rear tires....the car has 160000miles on it...i will talk slowly so you can understand...you loose about 50 hp and 50 tq between the flexpate and the rear tires......so the motor is a 300 hp motor.... and with my heads it should help the #s out.....

the gears are um...i think 273 the top speed is 155 on dino..

 

liar.

did the LS1 start in third gear? or did he just shift at 2500 RPMs?

 

How many gears did the guy in the ls1 miss?? All 6 of them???

LOL

 

Hey how is the belt routed?

 

LS1's aren't unbeatable. My brother beats them quite often on the street with his 96 T/A 6 speed and he only dynos 286rwhp.

 

Hows the dick taste?? If it isn't good then pull it out of your mouth. Doesn't matter if he missed all 6 he would still hand you your ***.....and yes I have seen the car.

Your with stupid ^!! I've handed it to LS1s before....why.....because they can't hook and most of the people driving them don't know what moderation is!

CamaroKid stick to talking about things you know about. The car is an automatic 700R4 with absolutely no rebuild on it. Hell, I doubt he even changed the tranny filter yet.

I won't doubt that the car should be much faster. I kept up with him and hes got 38 more cubes!! hell, I even pulled on him with my aircleaner off (extremely dirty). I saw cody pull on an LS1 when he was in front of me. Xceleratemaro isn't making this up. I'm not saying the car is ungodly, but its quick for what it is.

 

i know that anything can happen on the street. but the cars are not in the same power category. the LS1 six speed has 3.42 posi and i assume you have an open differential 2.73 rear end. advantage-LS1
HP advantage - LS1
torque im gonna guess the LS1 has more
if you have a stock stall speed then the LS1 has the advantage on the launch.

race him again. and get a 1/4 mile timeslip to post.

 

Its not my car! My car is in the sig! But Cody should be running his camaro this thursday at the 1/8 by his house. Anyone in the area its Greer Dragway. Anyway either Xcelerate or me will post the times.

 

i know its not your car. sweet i will be awaiting the times good luck

 

i dont realy whant to post the times but here ya go, the power valve whent out in the carb so the car would studder harribly out of the hole the whole night it ran the best of a 9,3 whitch suck but nexed week he should be in the high 8's any way for those that do not belive me my buddy 97 ram air trans am 6 speed ran a 9 5's all night ......when we get the new power valve in the car will run a hell of a lot better..... i will post any new results as i get them..

 

yeah they run like crap with blown power valves. but why is your buddy running an equivelant to a 15 second pass? bad driving i am guessing?

 

My 01 SS runs consistant 8.50s in the 1/8th and my 86 does the same so all that talk before about beatin a ram air and all I am gonna give you guys a salute of the haha its my opinion so dont get all upset, if it does what you guys say it does more power to ya but I think everyone that posted was just saying their own opinion also so dont start goin off on people.

 

*** allmighty..............

wtf bad driving i am guessing? come on man have you ever got on it when the power valve is out the car would just stall maby when yours whent out it wasent as bad compared to his...

i dont know crap about carbs but i was watching the car studder and stall so there ya go...

um...for all of the ls1 guys.......i will try to have a video nexed week of the 97 trans am and the camaro.....

theres no use arguing

 

i have had my fair share of blown power valves. thank you. when i said bad driving i was talking about the LT1/M6 combo running an equivelant to a 15 second pass

 

You said you will try to have a video of the 97 trans am and the camaro? is that the one you were talking about that you beat? If so the 97 is the LT1 not the LS1 so if you are talking about the same race from the beggining then I would understand why you beat it better because the 97 LT1s only had 285 flywheel horsepower.

 

1) Those DYNO numbers are a joke for a 383.
2) Changing to those big chambered heads will lower compression and you will lose power.
3) The whole LS1 story is a pipe dream.
4) My IROC stock went 9.18 in the 1/8 bone stock. I can't take LS1 cars, and I'm sure that your little 383 can't either. Especially not optimized.

Maybe you guys should try asking for some help around here. There are plenty of experienced people that could give you excellent advice. Rather than just throwing parts at that engine why not come up with a solid combination?

Also you really should calm down with the defensive attitude. We are all here to help each other and your attitude isn't going to win you any popularity contests. This isn't highschool.

 

Your obviously a beginner!! The heads cody had on were 882 cast heads (76cc chambers) and the heads that replaced were ported and polished 993 (75cc) heads. If you want to get technical then he went with a better head. They are both smogger heads that completely suck flow wise (untouched) but the 993 is a thicker casting and comes on most of your crate motors. Id say that 1cc is actually a smaller chamber and would increase (unnoticably) the comp ratio. The 993 also allows for more port work to be done also and most often than not the 993's have less coreshift than the 882's.

I doubt those numbers that your running are true and if so show me a slip! I also would like to know what time of year and the track conditions were, AND what you consider stock. I think this was a "pipe dream".

 

yeah, basically both heads are crappy smogger heads. why did he take the time to change heads to a head that allows more port work, if he didnt port them? you are a beginner, a 9.18 in the 1/8th mile is about normal for a L98 (it translates to about a 14.5). why is it so hard for you to believe that your bud's 383 just isnt making good power?