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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 12:01 PM
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My timeslip is as follows... I don't have a scanner so this will have to do:

R/T .518
60ft. 1.969
1/8th 9.18
1/4 14.52@92 MPH

This run was with a trans that was going bad and wouldn't shift into 3rd gear so I had to cross the finish line in 2nd at 6000 RPM. Not good with a TPI

I will have some new track times real soon. I am willing to bet that my L98 with no internal mods can run better times than that 383. No flame intended just a little friendly competition

p.s. Feel free to visit my site and see my short list of mods. I even put the stock EPROM back in and will run it like that all summer.
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Old Mar 10, 2003 | 05:41 PM
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Hey how is the belt routed on the car?
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Old Mar 10, 2003 | 06:16 PM
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sorry trans am 12 sec about not answer you the 1st time i will post a pic....if you need any more info e mail me a xceleratemaro@yahoo.com

now no the 97 trans am is not the 2001 ram air i was speeking of so now that we have that stright i did not know that the 97 trans am was a lt1 since when...please correct me if im wrong..bc when i pick the hood up on the 97 trans am i looked to me to be a ls1??????????

now brodyscamaro if you would like to send 1000$ cash to me then cody will buy the nice fancy heads he would like to own..but for now since he works 2 jobs and goes to school money dose not grow on trees.....at least i havent seen any...so as the good friend i am i let him try my heads out....there is a big difference in the heads when you look at them side by side....as i originally posted i will report the diffrent results when he dyno's the car agin....for now he will be taking out the transmission bc the bellhousing bolts keep breaking so we need to redo them ....hopefully the car will be on the road and running good by thrus so he can drag it agin...

if you would like to figure out why his "dyno #s suck" please let me know, what you want to know to find out what the problem is...thank you


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Old Mar 10, 2003 | 07:57 PM
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[QUOTE]you are a beginner, a 9.18 in the 1/8th mile is about normal for a L98 (it translates to about a 14.5). why is it so hard for you to believe that your bud's 383 just isnt making good power?[/QUOTE/

I'm a certified technician! YOU?? Beginner my ***. A 9.18 translates roughly to a 13.9. Iroc, I still don't buy it until I see a slip. What were the track conditions, temp, humidity, elevation????? The track cody and I run on sucks as far as prep and glue. But nonetheless I never said codys car was all that. I just said its quick.
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Old Mar 10, 2003 | 08:00 PM
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97 does not have an LS1, it is an LT1. No BS flags here or any flaming, and I'm sorry if I started all this doubt about your car!

I just wanted to post my time slips for my 1998 LS1 Z28. My mods are as follows - I ran 13.37 bone stock:

air lid
ported and descreened MAF
K&N
Cut out

And here is my time slip in Aug of last year ( I am on the right):


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Old Mar 10, 2003 | 08:47 PM
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The 97 corvettes had the LS1 but the f-bodys didnt get it until 98. Lt1s have the flat looking aluminum intake manifolds and LS1s have the black plastic tube looking intakes manifolds.
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Old Mar 10, 2003 | 08:50 PM
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I'm all for this car outrunning LS1s and such, hell vipers too. And there might have been a win with one, the ls1 might have a had a traction problem or just a bad driver. But the majority of them, or the ones that know what they are doing will win. There's no doubt about it. On average you'll see 50 rwhp more being put down in the ls1.

Now on to the engine, it's fine if you put down 250. It's not horrible, but you realize your problems, the heads and small cam. No reason to try justify it as something special. It's a good platform that can be worked with, quit trying to defend it. And yes, L98s can run 9.1-9.2s stock. Although most are slightly higher.

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Old Mar 10, 2003 | 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by Ions91Z28
I'm all for this car outrunning LS1s and such, hell vipers too. And there might have been a win with one, the ls1 might have a had a traction problem or just a bad driver. But the majority of them, or the ones that know what they are doing will win. There's no doubt about it. On average you'll see 50 rwhp being put down in the ls1.

Now on to the engine, it's fine if you put down 250. It's not horrible, but you realize your problems, the heads and small cam. No reason to try justify it as something special. It's a good platform that can be worked with, quit trying to defend it. And yes, L98s can run 9.1-9.2s stock. Although most are slightly higher.
Well put!
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Old Mar 10, 2003 | 09:23 PM
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according to www.prestage.com and many other sources the closet formula is 1.5832. meaning to go from a 1/8 mile time to a 1/4 mile time you multiply the 1/8 mile time by 1.5832 to get the 1/4 mile time. check it it conensides (sp) with the other dudes slip
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Old Mar 10, 2003 | 09:43 PM
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Originally posted by brodyscamaro
according to www.prestage.com and many other sources the closet formula is 1.5832. meaning to go from a 1/8 mile time to a 1/4 mile time you multiply the 1/8 mile time by 1.5832 to get the 1/4 mile time. check it it conensides (sp) with the other dudes slip
That means I am supposed to run a 13.53, but I actually ran a 13.1???
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Old Mar 10, 2003 | 09:54 PM
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Originally posted by wlsmoku
That means I am supposed to run a 13.53, but I actually ran a 13.1???
or course it is not exact. its just a guess, but a good one.
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 07:44 AM
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Here's some suggestions as to why you keep breaking bell bolts...

1) Motor to trans dowel pins are missing or improperly installed.
2) Torque converter is improperly seated in the pump.
3) Trans crossmember unsecure or bent.
4) Bent flywheel

Just a little insight in case you were unaware.

Just for the record I know what I ran and if you find it hard to believe then I think you need to get some more racetrack experience. There are plenty of stock 5.7 cars running what I run. My run was made in September of 2001 on a 60 degree day with a well prepped track (Ubly Dragway in Bad Axe, MI). I am an experienced racer and know what it takes to run good numbers.
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 05:20 PM
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according to www.prestage.com and many other sources the closet formula is 1.5832. meaning to go from a 1/8 mile time to a 1/4 mile time you multiply the 1/8 mile time by 1.5832 to get the 1/4 mile time. check it it conensides (sp) with the other dudes slip
Thats not what I've seen and have been told. 1.53 is the norm for conversions. Its worked on everybody I know.

Just for the record I know what I ran and if you find it hard to believe then I think you need to get some more racetrack experience. There are plenty of stock 5.7 cars running what I run. My run was made in September of 2001 on a 60 degree day with a well prepped track (Ubly Dragway in Bad Axe, MI). I am an experienced racer and know what it takes to run good numbers.
Thanks for the track info. A well prepped track, and low temp (and low humidity) can make a drastic difference. This is why I asked. That same run would be .3 to .4 seconds slower had it been in the summer. I still don't believe your time because I believe what I see. I have PLENTY of track time. Ask anyone who knows me. Don't get offended because I doubted your time. Instead show me up by posting it! Simple as that. As for the comments on me (or whoever) defending cody; I'm not! I could care less what he runs. But I saw what I saw. I'm not saying his cars fast but it is quick....Alot quicker than some of the people in here.
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 07:28 PM
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Originally posted by Camarokid01
The 97 corvettes had the LS1 but the f-bodys didnt get it until 98. Lt1s have the flat looking aluminum intake manifolds and LS1s have the black plastic tube looking intakes manifolds.
i think you are wrong bc the intake on the motor is black in fact im for sure that it is an ls1 ...but enough of that crap///

how do you post a video taken on a didiatal camra????

iroc thanks for the tips you were right on #1 the dowles were not lined up so now the dowles are inbeaded in the transmission instead of the motor lol o well.....

wlsmoku did you not say the car was stock....i did not know that gm cars came new with k and n air filters???or ported and descrend maf???? i guss i learn something new everyday



now just for the recored the driver of the ls1 is a good driver ...i know bc i have ridin with him b4....but you will see in the video...
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 08:13 PM
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Originally posted by Xceleratemaro
i think you are wrong bc the intake on the motor is black in fact im for sure that it is an ls1 ...but enough of that crap///

how do you post a video taken on a didiatal camra????

iroc thanks for the tips you were right on #1 the dowles were not lined up so now the dowles are inbeaded in the transmission instead of the motor lol o well.....

wlsmoku did you not say the car was stock....i did not know that gm cars came new with k and n air filters???or ported and descrend maf???? i guss i learn something new everyday



now just for the recored the driver of the ls1 is a good driver ...i know bc i have ridin with him b4....but you will see in the video...
You don't have to defend yourself, your car probably is pretty quick. A 300 horsepower car is pretty quick. The ls1 guy may be a great driver, but during the run he did not. That or he has a problem with his car and it's not making the power it should, or your car had a problem on the dyno and did not make the power it should. The weight between your cars is 100-200 at most. With him making 50+ more rwhp he should win. Good to hear you fixed the dowel problem. BTW, 98 was the first year of the LS1 in a f-body. So the guy has an 98+ or he has a 97 with a LT1.
Unless there was some type of motor swap.
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 02:32 PM
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Might want to put some valve covers on it before you start it
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by Xceleratemaro
wlsmoku did you not say the car was stock....i did not know that gm cars came new with k and n air filters???or ported and descrend maf???? i guss i learn something new everyday
I must have said it wrong, sorry! What I was trying to say was that I ran a 13.37 STOCK, but ran a 13.10 with the listed mods. sorry for the confusion.

LT1(with direct port NOS)



LS1
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 07:23 PM
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thanks for the correction apprently he dose not know what year his car is it is a ls1..any way we did not race tonight becouse of the rain hopefully nexed week.......
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