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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 04:16 PM
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widest 'bird ever?

3.1 l V6
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 04:17 PM
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 04:17 PM
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 04:32 PM
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I know this car is gonna get flamed to holy hell... but I kinda like it. Maybe some different rims/tires and paint. And the mirrors definitely gotta go.
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 04:41 PM
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I vote yes.
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 04:43 PM
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I kinda like it in my own sick twisted way...it's got that huge fendered 70's vette appeal to it
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 04:48 PM
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i liek it :-D
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 05:00 PM
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as a straight line drag only car its pretty cool. But i couldnt imagine what itd feel going around a turn in that thing?!?!?
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 05:14 PM
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i love it, i think it is a very unique style

but the mirrors suck
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 05:16 PM
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wowzers, it would be like parking a duelly!

agreed, some nicer mirrors would help a ton, I like how unique it is.
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 05:56 PM
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is that a kit you can purchase?
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 06:34 PM
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I always did like the widebody kits on 3rdgens. One day Im going to buy one. The mirrors do suck though on that car.
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 06:58 PM
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new mirriors,no red and it would look much better. Does anyone make a kit like this?
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 07:49 PM
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Pretty neat, def new mirrors and take the red off, new wheels, and some nicer side pipes..oh yea..and a new motor! Neat tho
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 08:35 PM
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Looks like you can make a drag car out of it.


Put the stock front fenders back on with skinnies. Keep the rear of the car wide so you don't have to tub it, throw in a dana 60 rear in with 4:56 gears , and drop in a Oldsmoble DRCE engine. Presto!
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 08:51 PM
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and all it has is a 3.1 L???
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 10:19 PM
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What in the hell?
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 11:15 PM
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Yep Lose the mirriors, put the stock ones back on. Then lose the tires and rims and replace them with some nice 17x11 in the rear
and 17x 9.5 in the front. Lose the rear wing and replace that with a wrap around one off of a formula firebird.
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 11:20 PM
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I'd set it up for auto-x
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 11:42 PM
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I like it, I think it would look better with an 87-89 nose though...as for the mirrors they definitely have to go, but weren't those stock in some of the European thirdgens?
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 11:48 PM
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New rims/tires, plain black paint, mirrors, twin turbo 406 and loose the sidepipes
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 12:46 AM
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Im sorry but i think its ugly as hell i like the way gm made them.
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 01:22 AM
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Originally posted by RWB____s
Yep Lose the mirriors, put the stock ones back on.
sorry but i believe the mirrors are stock on the cars that GM exported to europe, however, i need someone to verify this.
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 01:30 AM
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yup they're stock ask any of our european members, i belive that Freeze converted his to our style
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 02:30 AM
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To all of you who were asking if this is an available body kit for purchase, YES, yes it is! You can get it from ThunderRacing (and a few other places). Click ---=HERE=--- for the page containing it. I have actually seen that body kit here in the US. I was in Florida and I noticed a very odd-looking ThirdGen and investigated. Didn't know what I had seen until I saw that body kit online. So yes, widest in your area, but I have seen it here in the states...

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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 04:26 AM
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I knew of a Camaro that looked almost just like that, my friend sold it a few months ago. It was definetly noticably wider!!
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 06:14 AM
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Re: pic 2

Originally posted by Graboid
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i am sorry but i will never go for a ride with that thing!!! for me it sucks!!!!
sorry!! not the mirrors or red stripe or wheels! just make it again like *** make it and it will be good!!
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 06:17 AM
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That's definitely unique... I don't think I've ever seen a thirdgen fbody quite like that.

I do believe those mirrors are factory. They are required in Europe (for what purpose I don't really know).

Definitely looks like it should have a meatier engine under the hood though.
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 06:59 AM
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I do believe those mirrors are factory. They are required in Europe (for what purpose I don't really know).
Probably since the streets are so skinny that folding mirrors are required.
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 08:12 AM
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yeh, new mirrors ans paint and it would b a sweet ride!
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 08:30 AM
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Knock out the windows and replace it with expanded steel mesh, clear out the interior and put in a couple of racing seats... M60 mounted in place of the rear hatch... I'm seeing a new Mel Gibson movie...
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 08:34 AM
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I think it's fugly.
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 08:31 PM
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Heres another pic of a Camaro with the kit. Except for the wing, this car kicks Ace.
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 10:09 PM
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Wow now that camaro looks awsome :hail: :hail: but the firebird

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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 07:15 AM
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ok.. that camaro looks great, espically w/ the hood louvers right next to the cowl... very sexy i think, and then the louvers right behind the front wheel.. but the bird.... it's too drawn out.. tooo bluky, makes it look short and midgety.. don't get me wrong, i love midgets, but not midget cars... :-/. But.. a few things, and the bird could look good, yes.
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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 07:37 AM
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That Marlboro camaro looks amazing, and would look even better
with a 5" iroc spoiler instead of that wing.
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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 08:17 AM
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Anyone know the history behind the Marlboro Camaro? What size wheels are those? The camaro looks good except for the ***** wing, and the firebird, well, could look a bit better w/ different mirrors and a better paint scheme.
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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 08:28 AM
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The rear quarter on the camaro looks better than the the one on the bird, but it has possibilities. The mirrors and paint I agree need some help......
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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 11:31 AM
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OMG! Side exit :drool:
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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 11:53 AM
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Different, but horrid.
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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 06:04 PM
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i agree that it would look better with an older version of the nose. Also, i'm curious about where they relocated the gas filler to. Blacked out taillights and a more aggressive hood might help the look also.
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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 06:43 PM
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I like it. I would love to get the wide kit for my car.
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 02:46 AM
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Originally posted by john5.7 87Iroc
Heres another pic of a Camaro with the kit. Except for the wing, this car kicks Ace.
As much as I hate huge wings like that, I have a FUNNY fealing that the car in question has the power to NEED that wing.....

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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by john5.7 87Iroc
Heres another pic of a Camaro with the kit. Except for the wing, this car kicks Ace.
reminds me of does dragster boats
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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 11:12 AM
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Uhm....the kit on that Firebird and the kit on those Camaros are NOT the same kits.

BTW, this summer when on my 1000 mile roadtrip in the IROC, I saw that Marlboro Camaro being trailered. I later on saw it racing in a Legal Streetracing event during an american car weekend. It is not half bad, but I don't care for the paint scheme. There was a second gen here in Norway too with that scheme some years back.
As for the details on it, I can check - it has been featured in some magazines here earlier this year. In fact, I think I posted about it, so do a search on my username and you should be able to find it...

Oh, and about that Firebird - it is definitely unique, but personally Im not too crazy about it. A different paint job may have helped, but Im not sure...
As for the mirrors, Zepher has the right idea. The folding mirrors is/was a requirement here in Europe. After visiting Italy a couple of weeks ago I see the point. The streets were very narrow and people drove like they had stolen both the car/scooter and the gas! All cars parked along the streets had their mirrors folded in - and those who didn't had the mirrors broken off and hanging by the wires LOL!


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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 07:48 PM
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Its weird how those fender flares are at an angle like that instead of more level like with the grey Z28. I have yet to see a really nice looking Wide Body kit that doesn't look a bit odd.
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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 07:31 PM
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About the mirrors, they are actually stock. Theyre export mirrors, which went to europe (not sure which countries) :P When thirdgens were being built, some countries already required cars to have 'fold-back' mirrors, like all new cars do today. So, GM threw those pieces of crap on there to meet safety standards.
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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 11:30 PM
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i'm likeing the sidepipes on the firebird. theres a camaro with the wide body kit on it at a junkyard about 10 min from my house. it doesnt look that bad either. the fenders are fiberglass so it probably saves alot of weight. i kinda like it but i dont think i would do it to my car.
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 03:23 AM
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Originally posted by john5.7 87Iroc
Heres another pic of a Camaro with the kit. Except for the wing, this car kicks Ace.
Now thats kewl:hail:
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 07:05 PM
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that red n white camaro is wicked... but ya.... that wing looks horrid.... other than that beautiful

and the firebird... hmmm i like it... new rims and get rid of those horrid mirrors
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