Hello Everyone i see we have a problem here . First of all i did four different board drawing at the same time. So far this is the only one that has had a problem like this. I Just a few minutes again email who ever wowcolor is. I thanked him and told him to phone our office and all that. he would need to do. I also mentioned that we would somehow need to verify him as the person that regiestered for the drawing something such as reply to me from the same computer as he entered from. I think that would help to verify he is the correct winner as draw from the entries. I guess that would verfy the IP. All I have ever tried to do here was do a fair hood raffle and it appeares something looks fishey here, to some people. I am sorry about that, I think what I will do is have another drawing from the list of people who have entired and give say FIVE WINNERS a HOOD that will make six winners in all. I need to think of a way to do this drawing out of my hands so to speak. i was on the road yesterday morning when we did the drawing at my shop .No dought it was done correct at my office my wife and the two other girls in the office did it. All I have done is reply to all entries and printed them off and did what I had hoped would be fair and honest. Reading back through the posts I see I appear to be some so of a vilan or something. Sure I can not spell the best. and my Caps are not always in the right place. But i am fair . Think of a way that you want these other 5 winners drawed and we will do it.. MOD could I have a few days sticky on this post, looks like we will be needing it. I will be traveling today and will be back tonight and will see what everyone thinks will make some people happy. sorry for all the fuss, i was just trying to be fair. I myself do not know who the winner is. My post probley should have said( members only) but I juess he was just surfing through and got lucky. Sorry for all the mispelled words and all that is wrong with my typing, we will find out who wocolor is very soon. Best I remember the first time I came to this board I was just clicking through and did not become a member as soon as the home page url came up . I have read about 3 pages of the other post and I got the message that it looked like I had rigged this up some how. That is total wrong. I hope by giving the 5 more away someone knows some the winners and sees the hoods and realizes, I might not be as bad as some people think I am. Got to hit the road looking forward to proving I have done nothing wrong. see ya Rex

 

I need to point out something in his defense. All I did was shoot him an email asking to be put in the drawing and stating where I had seen it. If my email had be anything other than my sign in name here thats who he would have annouced the winner as.
Now how many of you do your screen names here and your email address match?????

 

Man... good luck. You have 90% of this site wanting your head on a plater. Whatever happend with this wowcolor or wowcolour and this and that is very strange and this has yet to be solved by just giving away more hoods. We need to know who the f this wowcolor is that signed on yesterday and claimed the hood. I assume that he just happend to come across this raffle and put his name in the drawing. There is still a lot of things unanswerd. This needs to be figured out before more hoods are given out. Im sure your gunna come back to a rash of crap and you left a bad tasted in everyones mouth including myself. Stuff needs to be fixed now.

Also, EVERYONE TURN OFF THERE EMAIL NOTIFICATIONS!!!

 

I have to say the same thing. In fact I e-mailed him from my other e-mail account and I didn't include my thirdgen regestraton name. Just stated that I saw it on TGO. Give the guy a break! He is giving some thing away and may people seem to think that they are entitled to something! Chill out dudes!

 

Rex,

I've always been the kind of guy the tries to find both sides of the story before I decide who to lynch. After a full night to think about it, although assumed, you never did state that it was for TGO members only, we just had it in our heads that it was and probably for that matter should have been. Now, as far as this wowcolor character is concerned, if in fact he is a member here at TGO, but wowcolor is NOT is username, I would say it would be very beneficial for you if could get his username for us. The person that claimed he was wowcolor yesterday put you in a pretty tight spot and I'll admit, I, like many other at the time, wanted to believe that something was not right. But any case, I think giving away 5 hoods is definitely a start on the right track (especially if I won one ). I think the best thing you can do, is get the true identity of the ORIGINAL wowcolor, and find out if he is a member here and let us know who he/she is. If in fact wowcolor is just a browser, like many of us started out to be, then we're just going to have to decide for ourselves who's innocent and who's not. As far as the new drawing is concerned, take the entries that were already sent to you before the deadline, check to make sure they can be proven TGO members, and pick five names. As long as they can be shown to be existing and contributing members, I think everything will cool down for most of us anyway. Rex, I giving you the benefit of the doubt here, so please do what you can to fix this. Thanks

 

i think the next raffle should only be for members and up.

 

Well, if Rex's story checks out them I'm sorry. But this wowcolor was still in the wrong. Rex is trying to correct the misunderstanding, so thats good. But what about wowcolor. He should be punished for trying to scam. I think this post is going to end up as long as the other one!

 

I agree, its to easy to just sign up to be a member just for a hood and never return to the site again after its over.

 

Okay, then i have a couple of questions.

1. If he simply entered by email, and was not yet a member on this site, then where did the name "wowcolor" even come from? Wouldnt you have had to announce the winner by his or her email address, because they werent yet a member?

2. If wowcolor really is a participant in the contest, who simply wasnt a previous member on this webiste, why isnt that THEIR story as well? They are admitting that youve been scamming us, why is that?

Your story is feasible, but its not adding up correctly. Giving away 5 hoods is a nice gesture, and a nice way to save face, but (imho) its not good enough. I want the truth.

 

Well, I can imagine it would be hard to keep everything straight with all the names that poured in for the raffle. And like everyone else said the email is not the same as screen name, for example my email is jfox21042 and my screen name is bad84z. Seems like rex is more than willing to try and make things right with us, I think we should give him a break. I also think we should know the other sites he did the raffle on so we can check those sites and see if their contest ran ligit. Sometims stuff happens that is hard to explain, and it doesn't always look right, but sometimes the person was really good in the end. I think we should have let rex do some investigating before we all just exploded on him. In reference to the next drawing, I agree that senior members should only be considered. But if rex is willing to do 5 hoods, I really think he is trying to say he is sorry for the mix up and that is good enough for me.

 

I agree.

 

It still seems very fishy. Like admrlm said, if they emailed him from some email address like wowcolor@something.com, why not announce them by email address? And also, if one of the members registered for the drawing with just an email without containing their thirdgen.org username, I'm sure they would have heard about this whole thing by now and said something letting us know that that is their email address.

And then the same thing happened at CamaroZ28.com. What are the odds? It just doesn't make sense.

For the next "drawing" with "5 winners"- remove my name. I don't want a part of it. If there really will be 5 winners, let them have a slightly better chance with one less person in the drawing.

 

Hello Everyone Again, I woke up to this mess first thing this morning. My first post was from my home computer and i am at my office now. I am still trying to sort this out in my mind. The way i annnounced the winner's name was to be careful and not give out all of their email address which was, all i had to go with. There was not a real name on their entry email. So i gave out the color name, without all of the rest info so that, to be careful i did not get a lot of emails claiming to be the winner. ( my last sentence is not be be taken that I mean anything bad about anyone one OK? just being careful). I have just learned one of my office employees who has read more of the posts than i have that the winner ??? of the raffle, is now claiming , that he is a part of the supposed SCAM. This is NEWS to me. I will get in touch with the owner of this board and will welcome any investigation of this whole situation. I can not believe this is happening. All I tried to do is GIVE away a free hood being as fair and honest as anyone could hope to be. We had 3 other raffles at the same time and NO PROBLEMS from them.
Could a moderator get in touch with me. We want to get this settled as much as everyone on the board. Sincerely Rex Orr

 

When I e-mailed him it was from my business account. chris@cecoatings.com nothing like Hey this is TPl383 from the TGO board.

In fact He even e-mailed me back and said He needed to know what board I was from. so then I said who I was and what forum. Everyone is Assuming thing before Rex even had a chance to chime in. You know He doesn't have to Give **** away. Everyone should be great full he is. You may say he did it just to get back in the spotlight. thats total BS. How many of you would have actually said WOW this guy gave a hood away I think I'm gonna go buy one now...and actually did it.

I don't need the Hood because I have a 3inch harwood cowl already but It would have been a great X-mas gift to give to a good buddy of mine if I won. (Your Prob. Thinking YA RIGHT SURE you would just give it away.....and don't even go there on BS you would have sold it) I give **** I have laying around in the garage away I don't need now and then to get rid of it.)

as for this wowcolor dude......noone will know until be shows his face from behind the mask. He already admitted to being somebody else and is afraid to say who he is. He is more guilty then Rex. I'm thinking Its someone who decided to sit around on the PC and make a few names to enter as. How many NEW PEOPLE registered since the raffle? any way to find out.

The Next one should have

a definite start date and drawing date.
You should have to Submit
True Name Phone # and Shipping Address.
User name from here.

on a last note. He is doing this for FREE people. 99% of the opther Online Raffles I see you have to actually BUY tickets.

 

so now it's an inside job and we'll never find out the truth . very clever on your part

 

wow is all I can say. but what kind of name is wowcolor anyways.

 

i just thought of something else, some people are giving rex the defense that well maybe rex didn't know the guy's screen name and used his email address.

well, umm the email address was peasguys@hotmail.com so where did rex get wowcolor from??

 

i should also add, that I have a wowcolors on my AIM buddy name, someone that is on this site by a different name but I don't recall it. I'll have to wait till he signs on though to see if anything checks out.

 

Rex,

I have emailed you with a suggestion on how to fix this. Please read my email with the title "From a Moderator on TGO"

Thomas

 

Good luck Tom, I hope whatever your idea is, it works. This is some f****d up s**t!

 

Well time will time what will happen but what a freakin mess....good luck man...I think this will end up doing more damage than good

 

And... <drumroll> he's not giving **** away, clearly.

All the backtracking & talk from him is not clearing this up; it's proving that he won't fess up to his scam.

Keep digging the hole deeper, dude.

I love my stock, flat, non flashy hood. Lack of fit by aftermarket parts is why, but this jokester only compounds my opinion.

 

From the other thread:

Hennessey has been in business a similar amount of time. I don't remember hearing what a shyster he was until the late 90's / early 00's.

Thanks to the internet.

 

peoples' quickness to immediately jump to the most dramatic of all conclusions makes me question the validity of more or less ALL the comments and answers that are volunteered on this board.

it's an outrage to know that so many people are ready to do their very best to put a man out of business because of a stupid misunderstanding. just because you are large in numbers doesn't mean you're right.

i'm pretty disappointed. if we're all ready to make a villian out of a familliar sponsor and business man who's always done his best to clear up mistakes or confusions -- what do we have to offer to the every day user?

i feel a lot less at home now.

 

I think that you should look at the thread about the guy w/ the hood that came nowhere close to fitting. He was out shipping, 15% restock, on a clearly defective item.

I didn't post my conclusion until I was on page 7 of 9 in the other thread. Benefit of the doubt? Yes. But the user name on this board was shady, as was the one on camaroz28.com. The GP board one may be legit.

This is one seriously shady way of getting free advertising, and it backfired on him.

All signs point to it being a scam, especially a user who types just like Rex, yet claims they are here to uncover a scam. If they were trying to uncover a scam, they would have posted about it being a scam, instead of waiting for others to point out the obvious fact that it is one.

I appreciate you trying to be Mother Theresa and all here, but he's already dug himself in soooo deep with lies that he's hosed.

I always feel at home with the truth.

-Matthew

 

aprarently i hav badd reding comprihention skils

 

it's funny how people will say, that "we're" upset b/c we didn't win the hood. for one I didn't even know of this until I got a link about the "scam". and many people on here seems like wouldn't even take the hood if it were free now, so I don't think that's why everyone is upset, could it be b/c people were lied to?

 

I did not post in the big thread because I just didn't see that their was any use.

This will be one long *** post, because I'm going to speak my mind on this one.

I woke up yesterday so ready to see who won this hood on here that rex was giving away, ready to see one of us be very happy; and us others very proud for it.

But as everyone I see this new user name that I've never seen on here, so I was kinda pissed over the whole thing that it was a newbie and not someone I was familiar with.

As I looked further into it the first thing I thought is someone wants a free hood and will cross any morals he has to get it.

Now I read every *** forsaken post in that thread and by the time I got to the end it was locked by a mod.

Like I said in the first post. I've seen Rex Orr give away a hood to a boy that got ripped off thinking he was buying rex's product.

I've seen alot of GREAT and I mean GREAT hood's from rex, and some of you seem to think that you can just bolt on a aftermarket hood and it be perfect; well I will tell it to you straight can you bolt on a aftermarket fender and start spraying? Hell no (ask me how I know this ) But with time and know how I made them work. Well even the Hood's that looked great had to have some trimming or something to make it fit right.

Now the hood I seen for the 'bird in the pic's, from where I sit I can't tell you one way or another. Does the guy with the car have a straight car? Everyone would like to think their car's are perfect but in most cases there just not. Now if rex test fitted this hood on this bird then what I am betting on is rex's car, why you ask? because I'm sure there have been more than a few test fitted on there and I'm sure out of all those hood's it was going one way or another straight or what have you.

And onto someone talking about Rex not being a smart man. Well I take offence to that even if he doesn't. This man makes hood's for all kind's of car's, At very good prices for the product he sells. You have to make a living and I think he does it in the best way it can be done. My grandaddy worked on car's from 1952-1979 owned his own garage and loved doing it. One day in 1979 a costumer question his and his familys honesty and that very same day he closed the garage. He done it because he had to make a living and because he loved it, and loved the praises from his customer's. But the first time he ever had a customer complain he shut it down and sold it 3 weeks later our family garage. That's broke my heart since I was a child because I wasn't around then in the good ole days as they call them. I never got to sit in a '55 Buick or a '57 Chevy when the first came out. And onto Rex's spelling that is hitting below the belt. My grandfather was and still is one of the smartest men I know on a automobile he never went to school, he never learned to read or write; does that make him a bad person hell no! What I can tell you is that he ran that garage for all those year's and retired with 280k in the bank and back in '79 with that kind of money you were doing damn good. I've never known him to cheat anyone, and I can promise you he earned all that money EARNED IT. In these day's and time's you don't see people work like that. And you don't see people car about customer's and there word anymore. The only man I do know that does now day's is Rex Orr.

You can call it how you see it, but maybe JUST maybe you shouldn't judge a book by it's cover like many of you did last night.

I've never vouched for anyone on here, but I will vouch for Rex. Because I beleive in him as a person and as a buisness man just from what product's he puts out and what he does for people.

Now to me if I put up a thing for a free hood and you questioned my honesty. Like my stubborn or whatever you want to call it grandad. I would take it as a slap and spit in the face and close the door's. But he suprized me buy offering a 5 hood raffle.

You don't see many men want to hurt themselves to make thing's right.

And you don't see many men tell it to you like they see it.

I will ramble on and tell you that my grandad done what all he could for that customer after he closed her down to make it right, and again a slap in the face.

I think Rex will make this right.

Have faith in you're customer and they indeed will have faith in you.

I have faith in him, do you?

If it's a "inside" job as someone said, then that someone seen the water was getting hot and pulled out. But how was he so stupid to think rex would send the hood to someone on his pay roll? Rex to you their is prolly someone else working on the outside with him. And if you're missing any hood's...He would most likely be the man to see.

What's the world coming to when you have to point finger's, what's the world coming to when you have to try and scam a hood from a good man?

I do no know the answer to this one, but I sure do not like it one bit.

Calling it how I see it.

Just my $0.02

-Jensen

 

OK, well I would like to know who is getting the free hood that is supposedly going to wowcolor. Or is he just going to redo the whole thing. And, I agree that it would be easier to control if it was limited to just TGO and members and above or senior members or whatever.
I also agree that to enter you should have to give a lot of information to REX and maybe REX could share that info with the moderators just to show that everything is on the up and up. My email address is available when you do a search so I have nothing to hide and I would suspect that everyone else wouldn't have anything to hide that is trying to win a free hood. I think he just has to be more careful next giveaway, I don't think he (REX) intentionally done something maliscious to us.

P.S. How do we get in on the next raffle ?

 

Well I have been watching this all unfold.. not taking any direct sides to it all.. But since I imagine Rex probably gets a tonn of e-mail.. Being that I am a member to this board.. Even though I'm in Canada .. if there is a second Raffle.. would I be able to enter?
I never entered the original Raffle.. Because I figured it probably was open to US residents only..

Thanks

 

If I were Rex, and I found out it was an "inside job", I would seek legal and severe civil damages action for damage to his business and reputation.

 

nicely said but you failed to mention the fact that the hood i had was tested on 2 cars. i have 2 birds and it fit the same on both. what do you think the odds are of haveing 2 bent cars????

one of them only has 26,627km on it... not stright

http://www.ccfbg.com/projectcar/DSC00179.JPG

"from where you sit you cant tell" how many more pics would you like to see??. you said your self how much work it take to change a fender. SO you know first hand then how much adjustment there is in them. and you can clearly see the 3/4 inch raise in mine and it still did not fit.

 

What I want to know then.. was it only that perticular product that apparently didn't fit well.?? I've seen several Camaro guys here with the S.S. Ram Air Hood.. And I don't recall anyone saying it didn't fit..

 

Did they make 200kph speedos in the 86-92 `birds?

 

Read what Rex wrote, people. He didn't say he just discovered that his employee was in on the scam, he said he just learned FROM his employee that WOWCOLOR claims to be in on the "scam". If you're gonna slam someone, at least understand what they are saying first.

Personally, I jumped right on the bandwagon last night and posted on another board what a SOB Rex was. But after reading his reply, I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Take the time to consider what he said in his posts and you will probably see what I mean. We still don't know the story of who wowcolor is, but that doesn't mean that someone didn't send him an entry with that name on it, then someone entirely different, seeing the name of the winner wasn't registered, took a chance at getting someone else's prize and registered the name. It can happen, and if it can happen, the most likely place for it to happen is the internet. Rex I hope you're telling the truth, because I am extending you trust. Make good on the other five hoods, though.

 

Wake up and smell the scam man! People have had problems with his lack of communication as a seller of a crappy product.
I think through his actions of dealing with customers here on the tgo, he's shown his wowcolors, I mean true colors! The man is in some serious trouble with us tgo members and maybe others, I don't see him being to honest He may be telling the truth. We have to listen and decide what happened. Suddenly I feel more at home that my other tgo members have called his shady business practices out!

 

some of you would actually partake in another "give away"

come on... that's absurd

 

F**K IT!

 

yes my 89 GTA has a 220 kph in it. 140mph

for the early eighties it was law that 140kph was the max here in Canada

 

to the person who said I didn't read things right, from my upteen years in english class, this above sentence infers the employee is part of the scam. Then again I'm no english major and I could be wrong, but the structure of the sentence leads one to believe the employee is part of the scam????

 

Free is free.

But I'll readily admit: hood would get sold, and I'd keep the stock one on my car.

 

nevermind, that is poor sentence structure either way you look at it, I think I see the error in my thoughts, but the sentence was rather confusing, oh well

 

and how do you Know REX was in on it. YOU DON'T. your ASSUMING....

It could very well be a scenario like this..

Boardmenber knows a ascd employee. E-mailes em hey you rig it so I win I'll give you XXX amount of $$ for the Hood dude..

Employee Jumps on the idea since REX was out of the office..

I so Hope this is the case. I honestly care less who wins the hood. I don't need it. I have a 3inch cowl already.(harwood might I add)

Everyone wants to beat someone down before They know the complete story..

EDIT: I better check my spelling

 

As I said in the other post, I will offer my sincere apologies if this does turn out to be an honest mistake, but given that facts we had last night, it didnt seem as that at all. If it was in fact simply human error, then I will gladly spread the word of that.

Until that time however, I will have no further comments on this subject.

And as some have accuese, this whole ordeal was not about getting a "free hood", at least not on my end. I could care less about winning it, as I plan on buying one either way. Its about the fact that we were *POSSIBLY* lied to.

 

Same here.

 

Mark, you weren't the only one who read it wrong, and it wasn't a personal attack. The sentence structure flat out sucks, but my point is valid. He never said an employee was in on the scam. BTW, this is Chas aka Salsa Shark from NE3g. I don't post here much anymore. As my post count will attest to. hehe

 

let me get something straight

in the winner's post Rex states for the winner to email him
then the winner posts with his 1st post ever, email me

kind of weird isn't it

 

Also Rex, Im not busting on you for your spelling or capitalization or any of that ****... Hell, I make mistakes all the time. Its just that people have their own style of typing, and wowcolor seemed to be nearly identical to yours, which obviously added to the fire.

 

Chime in here anytime REX.
spill the beans already.

even if it was or wasnt an inside job do you think that anyone would post that on here?

I dont think people care who the winner is anymore, they just want to insure that this screwup doesnt happen again.

 

Rex

just have another auction on here if it was an inside job, I wouldn't mind doing a write up on my customer service if I won the hood?