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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 10:53 AM
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Re: 1st raffle didn't go smooth

Originally posted by iroctpis
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just have another auction on here if it was an inside job, I wouldn't mind doing a write up on my customer service if I won the hood?
rex already said he would be doing another giveaway of 5 HOODS...
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 10:57 AM
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rex already said he would be doing another giveaway of 5 HOODS...
my bad, that might help him clear some things up. How did he give the wowcolor name from that email address? Thats strange?

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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 11:02 AM
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Re: Re: Re: 1st raffle didn't go smooth

Originally posted by iroctpis
Oh I still don't see that on his reply to this post, but that might help him clear some things up. How did he give the wowcolor name from that email address? Thats strange?
that's what I said,
but some people said with so many contests he had going maybe he mixed things up, who knows, if I'm wrong, i apologize, like some have said nothing should have been said wrong till we knew the truth. It's too late for me to take back my replies, however, the evidence seems to be quite conclusive
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 11:11 AM
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I'm new to this paticular board.. but i've been watching what's being said in the last day.... It's kinda amazing... concidering it takes almsot 4 minutes to load these posts :P
Anyways.. here is my comment about this.

Rex had hosted a hood draw... free... and available to obviously members of clubs.. and non members.. that means... ANYONE could win. We really don't know exactly what happend.. and the only people who know what happend is Rex and Wowcolor.
All I have to say is... it was a draw.. and it's on the internet.. not everything that you see is real... as each and everyone of you people know.. You can post just about anything on the internet, may it be real.. or not. The first kind of reaction I noticed was that... it was like the end of the world!!! It's not!! Relax... take a breath.. and crack a beer. Rex made his post... and apologized.. and tried to make ammends for the fiasco that has just happend. Now it's up to each and everyone of us individually to accept it or not. Why really drag it out any more. It's not like we are going to benifit from it.
Think before we post maybe.... or maybe just leave it... walk away.
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 11:11 AM
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i cant belive you guys are falling for this bull****. He said he e-mailed me asking for my info and such. no such luck. This guy is a ****ing scam artist.

hey rex THEN WHO IS THE REAL WOWCOLOR
He is just trying to fool the rest of youu but dont take it. Now he is giving away five free hoods. If he didnt do anything wrong, then why would he need to give away 5 more hoods, come on people use your head
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 11:11 AM
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Re: Third Gen. Org Raffle

Originally posted by Rex Orr
I will be traveling today and will be back tonight and will see what everyone thinks will make some people happy. sorry for all the fuss, i was just trying to be fair. I myself do not know who the winner is. My post probley should have said( members only) but I juess he was just surfing through and got lucky.
I agree it should be for current members and not new ones who register for the give away. Rexx why did you call him wowcolor? You should have just said part of his email address?
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 11:13 AM
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How do you fall into this again? Why is Rexx a bs artist? just want to hear your explanation
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 11:15 AM
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hey WOWCOLOR, if it so ****ED UP. come out from behind the mask and admit who you are etc...

Being a coward behind a hiden name isnt doing **** but causing trouble. as said in a diff post. Your prob someone pissed off at REX for some reason and causing trouble.
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 11:19 AM
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Chill out guys it's only been a couple days give it time and it will clear up.....even if nobody gets anything you're not really out anything because it was a free raffle

i figure it'll all work out anyway i'll just hope for the best and that i still have a chance
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 11:21 AM
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bro, what is your real tgo name? That sh#t was not cool, if its true that you created a name after finding out that the posted winner was not a registered name, then you should be delt with. If you are in on the scam you should be delt with, so either way your screwed. I wouldn't freakin cheat people like you claim you did. I would just let it go and tell people what I learned, that there is no real member with that name, that way there would be another name drawn.
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 11:24 AM
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i think were still just jumping to conclusions. Not one of us knows what actually happened and until rex figures out what did happen none of this will be cleared up.

REX you MUST figure out where the mix up happened otherwise your name will never be cleared.
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 11:31 AM
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Re: wowcolor

Originally posted by iroctpis
if its true that you created a name after finding out that the posted winner was not a registered name, then you should be delt with.

well it is true, but how should i be dealt with.

Im thinking about comming clean, but i know ill get spamed.
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by 19doug90
i think were still just jumping to conclusions. Not one of us knows what actually happened and until rex figures out what did happen none of this will be cleared up.

REX you MUST figure out where the mix up happened otherwise your name will never be cleared.
innocent till proven guilty, however, i don't think we'll ever find the truth. I'll just take my business elsewhere.

people are still missing the point. it's not about winning or not winning, it all comes down to ethics
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 11:50 AM
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Re: Re: wowcolor

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well it is true, but how should i be dealt with.

Im thinking about comming clean, but i know ill get spamed.
You coming clean would be much better then not. You getting spammed will pass over time... You keeping this up will not.

Come clean for yourself not for others.
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 11:50 AM
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This is gettin' really weird...I can already see the "Made for TV" movie coming out one day...
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by Mark A Shields
innocent till proven guilty, however, i don't think we'll ever find the truth. I'll just take my business elsewhere.

people are still missing the point. it's not about winning or not winning, it all comes down to ethics
Eh i dont think i would buy a hood from them regardless but for other reasons. Yes it all comes down to ethics but if this truly was an accident then his ethics can not be put at fault. I think the biggest problem here is this was done really sloppily. It was just hey e-mail me and youre in. There were no controls and there was just far too much room for error. As a business you MUST handle things in as professional of a manner as is possible and this contest was not handled well at all
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 12:23 PM
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You know what, you're all a bunch of dumbasses.

First you jumped to conclusions and probably put a SERIOUS dent in his buisness. And I'm sure we'll all see that everyone was wrong. And even if you're not, you're still shooting yourself in the foot.

Do you even know why this site was started? Because no other website supported thirdgens. Do you know why there are only ads for thirdgen parts places? Because they support thirdgens.

Even if the giveaway was BS, ASCD is still the only place out there making cool hoods for thirdgens. Your own bloodlust has probably cost thirdgens more than anyone would like, like I said you all shot yourself in the foot, and made all of us look like dumbasses.

Rex, you're welcome to hang out on nethirdgen.org, I'm a dictator admin, this **** wouldn't fly.
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 12:27 PM
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I should also say, the mods of this board weren't using any sort of ethics in allowing the first post to go on. A fair mod would have locked it immediately until the whole thing was resolved.

It's not good to allow the lynching of a PAYING ADVERTISER on this site, jesus tapdancing christ Mr. Hat....
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 12:44 PM
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lol. @ all this ****...
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 12:45 PM
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i tend to agree with mac. I know for a fact that the drawing post spread to other message boards, mine included, so what probably happened is that someone signed up for the drawing who wasn't a member of thirdgen.org at all.

And the guy who signed up here as wowcolor made the situation worse.

rex may have made a mess by not validating that the guy was in fact a member of TGO, but it sounds like this is their first time doing this stuff. Live and learn. I think for future giveaways there should be definite restrictions. here's a good way to handle it:

1.Open the entry on the first day of a month
2.Exclude anyone whose signup date isn't the previous month or earlier.

That will weed out the people who are just signing up to get in on the freebie. Post count IMO is not a good indicator of anything.

I don't think Rex was looking to rip anyone off, i think everyone blew an honest mistake by Rex way out of proportion and you're trying to hang him for it. It sounds like he's more than willing to make good on it, especially if he's going to give away 5 more hoods.

ps. And wowcolor (either one) should NOT get a hood, period.

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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 12:48 PM
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Petty crap like this from thirdgenners is one reason why many of us old timers who helped make this site don't come here anymore.

If I was a business I'd never support thirdgenners. They do nuthing but bitch and moan about how nobody has anything for their cars, then as soon as someone provides them a service they do whatever they can to tear it down.

This is the first time I wish I was still a mod here, I would locked this up a long time ago.
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 12:49 PM
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so then let him make good on it. I think this contest is a total wash but if hes still going to do this for us (and really it is a favour more then anything else) I'm sure the memebers on this board would be willing to give him a second chance. I dont think he even needs to give away 5 hoods because you dont want to hurt the business if he still only gave away one but ran the contest properly im sure it would put a better sense of trust between third gen owners and ASCD. I say run the contest again from scratch, put some descent rules in like is mentioned in the post B4 mine, and give rex a chance to redeem himself.
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by Macgyver
You know what, you're all a bunch of dumbasses.

First you jumped to conclusions and probably put a SERIOUS dent in his buisness. And I'm sure we'll all see that everyone was wrong. And even if you're not, you're still shooting yourself in the foot.

Do you even know why this site was started? Because no other website supported thirdgens. Do you know why there are only ads for thirdgen parts places? Because they support thirdgens.

Even if the giveaway was BS, ASCD is still the only place out there making cool hoods for thirdgens. Your own bloodlust has probably cost thirdgens more than anyone would like, like I said you all shot yourself in the foot, and made all of us look like dumbasses.

Rex, you're welcome to hang out on nethirdgen.org, I'm a dictator admin, this **** wouldn't fly.
I couldn't agree with your post more. People jumped to huge conclusions and had it stuck in their head that this was a scam without having any *real* evidence...just looking for someone to blame. Yeah, I will agree that the raffle could have been done in a more organized fashion. But it wasn't, so get over it. Rex seems to be making an honest effort to get this situation resolved so get off his case.
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 01:24 PM
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Wow! You guys suck! It's not like any of you actually paid for entering.

Anyhooz, just wanted to chime in with some info for you freeloaders....

Originally posted by Jason Debler CZ28.com
I just spoke with Rex's wife, Crystal.

She gave me the e-mail address is the winner from CamaroZ28.Com.

Rex mentioned in the his post here that the winner's name is Mark Howey. Accodring to the e-mail address that Crystal gave me, Mark Howey's user name on this web site is SpectacularZ. That account was registered on 09/05/2003, nearly 3 months before this raffle was even thought of.

I think this is sufficient proof that Rex and the rest of ASCD were not trying to scam anyone here at all.

As far as the user name issue on ThirdGen.Org, all they had to go by was "wowcolorsemail@hotmail.com" or something very similar to that. They just assumed that the user name was "wowcolor" because that is all the information they had. When they announced the winner was "wowcolor", someone scanned the member list and saw that wowcolor was not a registered member so he registered that user name in hopes of taking a prize that did not rightfully belong to him. He basically pretended to be someone else. It is that guy who needs to be looked at as trying to run a scam, not Rex or ASCD.

Both Rex and Crystal feel pretty bad that they were trying to do something nice for everyone and people were saying such nasty things about them before allowing the facts to arrive. I also think that they deserve an apology form those who made those accusations and assumptions. But I am not judging anyone, that is just what I would do if I was among those who were making some serious accusations about something with not enough evidence to back it up.

I suggest that everyone who cares should shoot them an e-mail letting them know you appreciate what they tried to do, even if you weren't involved at all. Again, just a thought. After talking to them, I could tell that this whole thing really stung. Rex mentioned that he kinda felt like he was on trial for trying to play Santa Claus. That's not a cool way to go, IMO.

ASCD will try this again in the future, but we will help them out to ensure that this sort of things doesn't blow up in their face like it did this time.
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 01:37 PM
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Thanks for the heads up Brok!

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i cant belive you guys are falling for this bull****. He said he e-mailed me asking for my info and such. no such luck. This guy is a ****ing scam artist.

hey rex THEN WHO IS THE REAL WOWCOLOR
He is just trying to fool the rest of youu but dont take it. Now he is giving away five free hoods. If he didnt do anything wrong, then why would he need to give away 5 more hoods, come on people use your head
What in the hell makes you think that you have any right saying something like that? If you go back to the original post, everything was fine until you came along and f**ed it up. As far as I'm concerned, Rex is now on my good list, considering his other 3 drawings went without a hitch, and you my friend should be hung once a day for the rest of this year. You're screwing around could actually hurt a man and his wife's business. FOR SHAME. If I were you, I'd dump the name, sign on as your username, and never bring it up again.

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Thanks for the heads up Brok!

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LOL! Didn't know you were here as well, sir.

Just registered here to act high and mighty. G0d knows that all of us at CZ28 are all perfect, never jump to conclusion and never get militant about anything.


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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 01:44 PM
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i think people were pissed that it happened and rex was no where to be found. Id agree it seems like it was blown way out of proportion.
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 01:55 PM
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Funny you tools would lock anyother post that is non-tech but not this one

No one waits till the truth comes out, just jump to conclusions.
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by 19doug90
so then let him make good on it. I think this contest is a total wash but if hes still going to do this for us (and really it is a favour more then anything else) I'm sure the memebers on this board would be willing to give him a second chance. I dont think he even needs to give away 5 hoods because you dont want to hurt the business if he still only gave away one but ran the contest properly im sure it would put a better sense of trust between third gen owners and ASCD. I say run the contest again from scratch, put some descent rules in like is mentioned in the post B4 mine, and give rex a chance to redeem himself.
Id like to thank the sponsers for making thirdgen stuff, and I believe the products and service of a business speak for themself.
People will still buy hoods from them if their whole hood experience was smooth. I can't wait to win one myself, hope everything goes smoothly for me
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 02:35 PM
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Funny you tools would lock anyother post that is non-tech but not this one
In all fairness the original thread about giving away the hood was non tech related but it was on this forum so thats why this happened here.
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 02:44 PM
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Yeah

wowcolor messed up doing that to everyone, oh well, it didn't work this time. Thanks again to ASCD for doing this raffle.
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 02:56 PM
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LOL! Didn't know you were here as well, sir.

Just registered here to act high and mighty. G0d knows that all of us at CZ28 are all perfect, never jump to conclusion and never get militant about anything.


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your Perfect? when he!! freezes over.
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 03:35 PM
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Man... good luck. You have 90% of this site wanting your head on a plater.
Man , I wasent gonna get involved in this but speak for yourself please. I diddent read any of this thread so excuse me if this has been said, but 90% of this board im sure could give a f . I know I dont, did you honestly expect to win? How was anyone cheated? Its not like he had to give away a free hood.

The freggin hoods are ugly anyway...
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 03:47 PM
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I need to point out something in his defense. All I did was shoot him an email asking to be put in the drawing and stating where I had seen it. If my email had be anything other than my sign in name here thats who he would have annouced the winner as.
Now how many of you do your screen names here and your email address match?????
Do you people read????????????? Now lets put some things together. Person send Email says I say this at thirdgen.org. Rex enter email that he sent his board name is ???? Some ******* registers making an acount here as wowcolor which is b.s. trying to get a free hood he didn't win. Who was the real winner?? Who knows?? Maybe the dude is away for the weekend or just hasn't checked on this because he figures he didn't win. People the world is not out to screw you WAKE UP!!!!!!!!

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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 03:48 PM
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your Perfect? when he!! freezes over.

As a CZ28.com member i have read a LOT of BROKKANICS ravings i can tell ya with 100% certainty, that THAT was sarcasm
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 04:14 PM
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Im new here and have both a 83 T/A and a 97 GTP and have been with clubgp since 2001 and would like to say that Rex has done a great job for us on his raffle and sorry to hear the problems that have happened here on this site.Im sure he will go about it different next time.

Rex how is that new style hood for the Gps coming along
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 04:16 PM
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I am quoting a reply earlier in this thread that was quoted from z28.com

As far as the user name issue on ThirdGen.Org, all they had to go by was "wowcolorsemail@hotmail.com" or something very similar to that
actually, wowcolor said his email was peasguys@hotmail.com so where did Rex get wowcolor from? I'm just asking, not passing any judgement here, but if he were in fact looking at the email address, then he would have announced the winner as peasguys and not wowcolor
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Originally posted by Mark A Shields
I am quoting a reply earlier in this thread that was quoted from z28.com



actually, wowcolor said his email was peasguys@hotmail.com so where did Rex get wowcolor from? I'm just asking, not passing any judgement here, but if he were in fact looking at the email address, then he would have announced the winner as peasguys and not wowcolor
Mark-

its already been established that wowcolor is not the REAL winner of the raffle and that he (wowcolor) made up that name to "expose" a scam.


If i was admin here u would no longer be mod.



it has been admitted by wowcolor that he made up the name AFTER rex posted the winner as wowcolor the point @ cz28 was that the E-mail adress that rex had for the winner coulda been wowcolor@anything.com for all we know


rex posted that wowcolor was part of the winners E-Mail addy (PART OF)

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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 04:26 PM
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Rex cleared up the problem that was going on at cz28.com and im sure once he figures what the he!! is going on here he will clear this matter up as well.....:lala:
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 04:27 PM
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Mark,

I, like many of us, would like to know where wowcolors came from, but I think you may be missing something in your reading. The wowcolors that popped up in the earlier post with the peasguys@hotmail.com address is a phony. He made up the account after the drawing, and admitted to it later. So he is not the real wowcolors and his email address isn't the same as the real wowcolors, so the address could very well be wowcolors@hotmail.com.
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Okay guys, enough already. I will talk to Rex and try and figure out exactly what happened and what is going to happen.

No more posts on this crap anymore. Thanks.
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