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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 06:55 PM
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too high!

anyone else think this car sits too high!

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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 07:03 PM
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well, it does look a little high, i thought you had coilover snad you could just lower that bitach into the weeds. since your car is like a show car what about doing an air ride system for it.
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 07:03 PM
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I think it looks about right? But I'm not one for lowriders either.
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 07:21 PM
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looks good to me..........but an inch or so lower couldnt hurt!
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 07:37 PM
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problem with coilovers is you can't just pull into a parking lot and slam it down....well you could but you'd need to jack the car up and take the wheel off.

i'm working on something else though.

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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 07:56 PM
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 08:16 PM
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 08:41 PM
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I think it looks fine. I've definately seen higher.
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 08:53 PM
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It looks functional. I think any lower and it would look funny
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 09:03 PM
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nothing that some air bags couldn't handle.....:lala:
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 09:09 PM
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If he could care less about performance and wanted all-out looks, he should get airbags.

If he wants a suspension that handles nicely...he should keep whats hes got. Thats just my opinion
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 09:13 PM
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How often do you scrape?

The second one is too low (personal preference).... With those rims, having it higher is benificial.....it's a thirdgen, not a lowrider. If you want to slam something, slam a Civic or an S-10
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 09:19 PM
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The front is perfect. The back could be lowered maybe a 1/2" to 1" to make it look more even with the front.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 12:04 AM
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that's kind of what i was thinking as the back is a little to high. i like the rake look to a degree but not that much.

nolanr0413, that's pretty good. i've been working on a airbag setup but since i did the coilover conversion parts are hard to come by. most companies want over 1,000 to make me custom strut bags which is a bit much. there are a few other vehicles at the shop on bags and i agree that with a standard 2 way setup front/back the handling isn't very good but with a 4 way and the proper suspension pieces you don't even notice the difference on the street. the handle very well and you have full adjustment.

i like the photoshop for parked positions but definately not practicle for the street. looks cool though.

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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 12:59 AM
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whos ugly *** car is that? ... jk nice to see a new picture, I say bag it!
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 01:54 AM
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 02:30 AM
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looks great to me
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 05:36 AM
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The front is perfect, like others have said....maybe another 1/2" in the rear to even it out a bit

As for the rest of the car :hail: :hail: :hail:
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 06:16 AM
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I always though raised muscle cars looked mean as hell. Im not a fan of the lowered camaros. I think it looked fine just the way it was...thats my opinion.

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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 07:35 AM
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You need a better Digi cam fo rme to make a call.....lol.

I say Bags also. Im THINKING about em for the vert.

But for real man. for what ya have in the car, Invest ina nice digi cam and get some nice Hi res pic's in a 1280x960 + size.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 09:06 AM
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I think it looks pretty tough in Nolan's photochop. Not practical for a daily-driver-- but it's a show car anyway, isn't it?
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 09:42 AM
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yeah i thought the car looked fine, it looks great!!!
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 10:37 AM
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it could be lifted another 5 inches and still look great
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 10:49 AM
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i think the front looks fine...but the back....maybe just about an inch lower...just to level off the rest of the car.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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Ok, you asked for it..my opinion is that the car needs a serious lowering. i suggest 1 1/2 inch
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 12:35 PM
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Any lower jeff and I would start callin it the ghetto hooptie.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 02:00 PM
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just cause it has a motorized disco ball is no reason to call names eric.


TPl383 i have them in higher quality then that but i don't have a program that will crop it and keep it clear enough.

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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 03:18 PM
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I say slam it. You are going for the same look I'm going for, so the lower it is, the better (tuck those 18's!). The car is not daily driven, so it can be slammed for show with no regrets. I'm running mine a bit lower than that, and daily driving is still OK. Just make sure to make the spring rate higher so it does not bottom out (and adjust dampening accordingly) and of course, avoid the potholes (hehe!). If you are seriously considering bagging it, I highly recommend you go with the new Air Struts. I dont think anyone in the USA is making them yet, as they are different from Air Bags, and even Air Cylinders. So far I've only seen them for sale in Japan and I was quoted around $6500 for the full setup for a 3rd gen. Air Struts are worth the money because they allow the adjustable ride height at the touch of a switch, yet dampen like a real strut and are capable of handling the stresses of roadracing, so definately can handle spirited street driving. Since our cars run struts in the front and stocks in the rear, maybe the trick setup is the Air Struts in the front and Air Cylinders in the rear. Lemme know if you want more info on the Air Struts (I know the distributor). With the rest of the suspension done, it would feel exactly like your coilovers, yet allow the ride height adjustability at the touch of a button. Lates!!
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 03:42 PM
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Tried a larger pic without getting it too grainy

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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 04:04 PM
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Geez man, its like an Suv with that ride height. Still lower than most.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 04:18 PM
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Don't lower it anymore Jeff. Its a beautiful street car and show winning show car and if I start seeing the tire go into the fender, its gonna look gay.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 06:04 PM
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Jeff,

If you want to e-mail me all your Hi res pic's I can host em for you.
I have pleanty of space on my server and have a hell of a collection of pic's goin on here...

http://www.cecoatings.com/images/other3rdgens/
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 07:18 PM
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It looks fine the way it is. Any lower and you will just look like some punk kid with a shiny car. I say save your money and invest in a stealth ram setup or a supercharger or something that will actually help your performance.

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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 07:32 PM
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car looks fine as is lol...give her a rest alrdy she has enough make up
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 09:20 PM
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Originally posted by StreetRoc85 350
It looks fine the way it is. Any lower and you will just look like some punk kid with a shiny car. I say save your money and invest in a stealth ram setup or a supercharger or something that will actually help your performance.

Just my $.02
He doesnt need a HSR... already has a few motor mods and toped it with a miniram.

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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 09:21 PM
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Hey Jeff care to pull that CIA off and get me a shot of the MARCH brackets?
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 09:36 PM
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bags sound like a good idea to me
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 10:22 PM
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thanks for the kind words on the car guys as always.

CrazyHawaiian air ride, chassis tech and air lift all have airstruts. chassis tech claims to have them in stock but i don't care for their setups particularly. air lift hasn't designed an actual airstrut for the thirdgen alone and neither has air ride. i'm working with air ride to get them custom made but their prices are a bit high since they will be using my car as their template i figured they should give me a little slack for trailering it all the way out there so we'll see. the only reason i'm delaying is i can't figure out wether i want to keep the coilover conversion and run the air struts up front with the billet hal adjustable struts or just run an airbag and change over to the stock configuration. the rears will definately be standard bags though. i've only driven one strutbag car at it was a newer mustang.....seemed to handle quite well compared to bags in the front. i'm not to worried about racing but i really don't want to loose to much. the ease of adjustment does sound so nice though as dealing with coilovers on our cars isn't as easy as most cars to dial them down and up.

StreetRoc85 350 i can't really get any faster beyond reason. my motor is a highly built 383 fully forged running upwards of 11.1 compression with maxed out porting on the heads and the miniram. i'm running as many light weight peices on the the car as possible with everything being tubular and chromoly. the drivetrain is pretty stout to say the least with a built to the hills trans, chromoly driveshaft and a tough rear as well as plenty of nitrous to blow myself up! i'm pretty much done with speed as far as the car goes, i'm trying to round it out now as i want an adjustable suspension but coilovers aren't really doing it for me and i don't like having a stuck ride height as it looks alot better at shows when it's lower.......however with my 4"exhaust and long tube headers to match any lower then you see above and i'd loose it.



as far as the brackets i have the motor out right now so just before she goes in i'll snap a picture of the march setup for you ok.


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Old Feb 24, 2004 | 07:31 AM
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Originally posted by Kandied91z
as far as the brackets i have the motor out right now so just before she goes in i'll snap a picture of the march setup for you ok.
You da man.. Thanks Jeff.. again If you want some good Hi res pic's hosted shoot em my way.
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Old Feb 24, 2004 | 08:39 AM
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no problem...thanks!

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Old Feb 24, 2004 | 02:21 PM
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The only thing too high in that picture is the Monte next to you. Your car is perfect, if my car looked like yours I would call it finished. I mean you must be bored by now, how about starting over. I was thinking you could take mine and sink tons of money into it and make it look like yours. See you at Autorama.
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Old Feb 24, 2004 | 04:00 PM
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sounds like a plan......
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Old Feb 24, 2004 | 05:01 PM
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StreetRoc85 350 i can't really get any faster beyond reason. my motor is a highly built 383 fully forged running upwards of 11.1 compression with maxed out porting on the heads and the miniram. i'm running as many light weight peices on the the car as possible with everything being tubular and chromoly. the drivetrain is pretty stout to say the least with a built to the hills trans, chromoly driveshaft and a tough rear as well as plenty of nitrous to blow myself up! i'm pretty much done with speed as far as the car goes, i'm trying to round it out now as i want an adjustable suspension but coilovers aren't really doing it for me and i don't like having a stuck ride height as it looks alot better at shows when it's lower.......however with my 4"exhaust and long tube headers to match any lower then you see above and i'd loose it.
I stand corrected. I didnt see anything about that in your sig and I assumed it was a relatively stock LB9/L98. My apologies
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Old Feb 24, 2004 | 05:06 PM
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what about doing body work around the fenders to make it look like the car is lower. Like adding on some to the fender. then it would look slammed and have no wheel gap and still have ground clearance.
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 12:03 PM
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StreetRoc85 350 no problem.

yeah i thought about body mods but i really like the lines the way they are...i'm not looking to set the thing on the ground but i would like a significant drop for shows and cruising as it looks alot better.
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 02:03 AM
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I think the stance is perfect as is!!!!!!!:hail:
I was also unaware of the fact that you had a a 383, and so much engine word done. Very NICE!! :hail:

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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 08:22 AM
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damn tpis and their inferior parts....

i stand corrected........the new motor is now a 388!!

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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by StreetRoc85 350
I stand corrected. I didnt see anything about that in your sig and I assumed it was a relatively stock LB9/L98. My apologies
hehe I don't think you can run 10's on 18's on a stock anything GM...

And Jeff congrats on the 5 c.i. gain! lol Bigger is always better... any chance I can use those calculations to make my stock L03 bigger?
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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 12:32 PM
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Re: too high!

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anyone else think this car sits too high!

Nope, Looks Good to me!
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 12:36 PM
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there are people running that fast here and faster on them.....
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