3+ inch drop?
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From: ontario
Car: 1985 camaro
Engine: 305 H.O
Transmission: auto
with a 8.5 wide rim i should really go for a 245 without bulg but you can d0 225..i had a 215 on it but that was a mistake..so i got new ones.....8 wide you can easily do 225 no problem with fitment....well if you tell them you want the rim to fit your car..usually they come in the set offset....for my rims its a fwd rim only in 20's they are rwd...so i did the fwd with a space/adapter
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From: pefferlaw ontario
Car: 1987 iroc-z custom
Engine: 355 tuned port
Transmission: 5spd baby, only way to go
Axle/Gears: 3.45
225/40/18 and 265/35/18 are the exact same over all height.. 25.7 inches tall (i think)
i did that to have a staggered package
the 225/35/20 are just high enough to clear the fenders when the inner fenders are removed so its cool
when you start going up in rim size you have to go down in the 2nd number of the tire size...
225-in millemetres *width of the tire*
35-% of the width of the tire
20-size of the rim
example..
stock iroc size..
245/50/16 is the same height as 225/40/18 and 265/35/18 (with little varience.. .7 inches max)
i work at a tire shop..so this is something i need to know about to perform my daily routines...
iroc2nv
i did that to have a staggered package
the 225/35/20 are just high enough to clear the fenders when the inner fenders are removed so its cool
when you start going up in rim size you have to go down in the 2nd number of the tire size...
225-in millemetres *width of the tire*
35-% of the width of the tire
20-size of the rim
example..
stock iroc size..
245/50/16 is the same height as 225/40/18 and 265/35/18 (with little varience.. .7 inches max)
i work at a tire shop..so this is something i need to know about to perform my daily routines...
iroc2nv
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From: Austin, Texas
Car: 2000 Trans Am WS6 (Black)
Engine: LS1
Transmission: 4L60E
weird... I had no idea the width number changed the heith as well... weird....
they also have the same proportions... everything is EXACTLY the same except for the width... weird.
they also have the same proportions... everything is EXACTLY the same except for the width... weird.
I'm running 245/40/18 fronts and I was able to eliminate any rubbing (even at full lock) by adjusting my ride height. Started it off with the fenderwells resting on the tire and raised it up little by little until it was the lowest possible without rubbing. Took a while to get it perfect (driving around, checking, changing, etc). This is one of the reasons I really like the spring pertches (aka weight jacks), you can set the ride height. Then once I set the fronts, I set the rear to match (I dont like a raked look when slammed, I like evenly slammed front and rear). I dont know exactly how much lower it is than stock, but its really low. Looks almost exactly the same as SlammedZ's stance, maybe 1/4 inch difference.
Anyone got some measurements of stock height? I'll try to get some tomorrow from a different car. I also got the camera now, so should have some pics by tomorrow.
Anyone got some measurements of stock height? I'll try to get some tomorrow from a different car. I also got the camera now, so should have some pics by tomorrow.
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Car: 2000 Trans Am WS6 (Black)
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hrm, my springs are worn as hell and on my firebird it looks like this...
it feels like I am practically riding on my bumpstops.
it feels like I am practically riding on my bumpstops.
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From: Wesley Chapel, Florida
Car: 1991 Camaro Z28
Engine: Dart SHP 406ci T88 turbo
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: QP 35 spline Ford 9" 3.50 gears
Mine is lowered 2.5" all the way around.
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what's the link to your page, pwdbychevy?
I think there is a difference in our GFX design... it would probably be best to measure to the transmission mount, or something that's part of the chassis that's consistent from year to year and bird/maro
I think there is a difference in our GFX design... it would probably be best to measure to the transmission mount, or something that's part of the chassis that's consistent from year to year and bird/maro
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From: Wesley Chapel, Florida
Car: 1991 Camaro Z28
Engine: Dart SHP 406ci T88 turbo
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: QP 35 spline Ford 9" 3.50 gears
Originally posted by ScrapMaker
what's the link to your page, pwdbychevy?
I think there is a difference in our GFX design... it would probably be best to measure to the transmission mount, or something that's part of the chassis that's consistent from year to year and bird/maro
what's the link to your page, pwdbychevy?
I think there is a difference in our GFX design... it would probably be best to measure to the transmission mount, or something that's part of the chassis that's consistent from year to year and bird/maro
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From: Wesley Chapel, Florida
Car: 1991 Camaro Z28
Engine: Dart SHP 406ci T88 turbo
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: QP 35 spline Ford 9" 3.50 gears
Originally posted by ScrapMaker
how do your headlights compare to silverstars? and what's that dakota digital box do?
how do your headlights compare to silverstars? and what's that dakota digital box do?
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From: Wesley Chapel, Florida
Car: 1991 Camaro Z28
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Originally posted by ScrapMaker
can that not be done with the computer directly? I didn't realize you had to get a specific box to do that...
can that not be done with the computer directly? I didn't realize you had to get a specific box to do that...
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From: pefferlaw ontario
Car: 1987 iroc-z custom
Engine: 355 tuned port
Transmission: 5spd baby, only way to go
Axle/Gears: 3.45
Originally posted by slammed_z
from the white line on my front piece i drew,i sit 5"
from the side skirt white line its 4 1/2"
stock my front was 8" from the white line
from the white line on my front piece i drew,i sit 5"
from the side skirt white line its 4 1/2"
stock my front was 8" from the white line
i dont think you are that high man...you sure you measured right?
here is a small pic of what mine is like on my bags with 20s...
Well I couldnt get any shots on level ground to show the stance and ground clearance, my only flat stall is full. My carport is raised compared to the sidewalk so it shows the chassis clearance real good. I'm currently re-doing the front suspension on my 89IROC and its in pieces. But anyway, I did snap a teaser pic of the 91Z28 out in the driveway. Didnt take too many pics because the car is sitting on an uneven incline, kinda screws up the stance. I figgure when the space is open I'll take some real pics with the tape measure and stuff.
And here's a pic of it sitting next to my 92B4C with stock springs (I think). Remember, these are sitting on an uneven incline so probably a bad idea to even be taking pics regarding stance ... here goes anyway.
And here's a pic of it sitting next to my 92B4C with stock springs (I think). Remember, these are sitting on an uneven incline so probably a bad idea to even be taking pics regarding stance ... here goes anyway.
Yup, I picked up that B4C for $1500. I've been driving it to work while messing on these other two (doing suspension on the IROC and T56 swap on the Z28). I'm gonna fully restore the B4C to factory stock perfect condition and completely polish the TPI, then I'm gonna sell it and use the profits on my motor project. I'm a lucky guy!! right place at the right time.
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From: Abby BC Canada
Car: 83 Z28
Engine: 350
Transmission: t 350
hey slammed_z....from where u said u sit 4 1/2" my car sits 6 1/2". i have the 83 style ground efx and im not to sure if there is a difference..but how much do u think i would have to cut off the front coils springs to bring it down to around 5"???
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From: Ohio
Car: 88' Iroc-Z
Engine: LQ9
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: 3.42
i think your sitting around the same height as him fast 83 the 83 ground effects are like 2 - 2 1/2 inches longer i believe. Someone correct me if i'm wrong. I'll compare the 3 tomorrow.
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From: ontario
Car: 1985 camaro
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Transmission: auto
ya its true usin a frame is usually a good way to measure..only thing is i got alot smaller tires them more camaros/firebirds..so i always will have about a 1'' lower then most...unless you do major suspension modes
and ya the ground effects are different..not a huge amount..but about 1/2 to an 1" difference
and ya the ground effects are different..not a huge amount..but about 1/2 to an 1" difference
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From: ontario
Car: 1985 camaro
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to you it may...but imo i find i still like it....ive never like any tire over a 40 series...i could do one but i would have to raise my car..and that just will not happen...but to each his own
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From: Abby BC Canada
Car: 83 Z28
Engine: 350
Transmission: t 350
hey 87CIZ j/w if u got those ground efx measured.....if anyone else knows the size difference between the 82-84 ground efx to the 91-92 ground efx it would be greatly appricated.....deciding on wether to keep my car and put some more mods on it or to sell it and get a forth gen
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