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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 06:07 PM
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Hi 86Tojan,
I never recieved the email.
My address is correct as listed.

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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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George,
Sent sales brochure pic's again. 8:45 pm 1/8/06 central time. Hopefully you will receive them this time. Let me know.
Later,
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 10:02 PM
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isnt that the car that charlie sheen drove in "the wraith". if anyones ever even seen that movie?
Don't worry. It's not.
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 11:55 PM
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I know there are rules about the number of pics you can put on one thread but it is truly a shame the moderator had his way with this thread. The Tojan is obviously a rare thing in the third gen world and for a brief moment in time we had the sales brochures and numerous perspectives on this unusual car that is unique to our breed of car.

What a shame this forum couldn't preserve that information.

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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 01:56 AM
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the rules are more important sometimes.


anyways, anyway we can get all these pictures hosted off site?


if everyone still has the brochure and car pics that went missing, PLEASE email them to me, I will host them on my dedicated server.

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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 05:11 AM
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Definitely not my thing, but if I had to have one it would be just like yours... Red/Black with Recaro seats.
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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Hi 86Tojan!
Finally got the pics in my email! 8:45 am this morning!
Maybe that was the one you sent out first?
I did have 2 of them in my account this afternoon.
Yes, that is the same brochure that I have!
Like I said eariler, I wish I had a scanner!
I got a personal letter from the company, and a two-sided spec sheet on the car. And two business cards with different names on them (President and VP guys)
As well as photos I took at the 1986 Greater Los Angeles Auto Show, with a red car, with black Recaros!
And No, they are not for sale! HeHe!
The only licence plate (or dealer plates, as some people call them) covers that I have, are Chazen Pontiac, which are not for sale, since both of my new cars, came from there.
By chance, did you get one from Stadium Pontiac?

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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 06:37 PM
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wow i didnt think they really existed ive only seen the advertiesment for it on ebay before never knew they went into production, awsome to see one!
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 01:40 PM
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haha! that is sweeet
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 07:58 PM
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https://www.thirdgen.org/newdesign/b...ird/Tojan1.jpg

I've seen a few. They sort of look like a Fiero

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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by TraviZ
the rules are more important sometimes.


anyways, anyway we can get all these pictures hosted off site?


if everyone still has the brochure and car pics that went missing, PLEASE email them to me, I will host them on my dedicated server.

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Thanks TraviZ,
I scanned the Tojan Sales Brochure and emailed it to you.
This is a much better image than the photo's I originally posted.
Later,
86Tojan
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 11:12 PM
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Already recieved and uploaded.

these also can be viewed at www.zerotactic.net/uploads/tojan/


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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 07:46 AM
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My question is...how would you ever change a taillight bulb? Does the rear come appart to gain access to the taillights?

Thanks to those for posting pictures of the brochures. Awesome reading.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 10:31 AM
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if you can't guess from my screen name I've got a tojan also. A black 85. I've got pictures in other threads.

The bezel around the lights is only attached by 4 screws, so it's easy to remove and them the lights change out just like a factory bird.

To the person who comented on replacing body panels the cost is nuts. My tojan got it 2 accidents and was missing the wing when I bought it so I know what the parts cost.
Front fenders $360
Hood $900
Front bumper $400
Rear bumper $300
Rear fender $500?(don't quite remember)
wing $1200

Plus the kicker is that they have to be crated and truck shipped from nebraska. Really jacks up the replacement cost. And figure that doesn't include paint.
The bumpers and front fenders are just bolt on so the are easy to replace but the back fenders must be molded at the seams with filler. I"ll try to remember to post some pics later. Apparently the mods don't want and more pics loaded to the server so I'll have to get them loaded to the web elsewhere first.

Also the owner of the company isn't into this type of work anymore and doesn't want to do kits. The car was sold as a limited production vehicle. All the cars were sent direct from pontiac to Knudsen Auto, then customized, then sent to selected dealers for sale. I don't know what price the dealers actually got for the cars but the suggested retail was just over $30k

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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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^ I'm sure the guy doesn't want to make a kit, I was just saying that it would probably be a fairly hot seller if it was made and didn't cost as much as those prices you listed
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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found this in a search....

http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1985a0xm.png

evidently it's from the Chicago Auto Show in the 80's.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 12:36 PM
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so thats what the Trojan Man condom guys rides in.... hmm interesting.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 10:47 AM
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i love the deep dished wheels

i defenitly like them, never heard of them but like them. more 80's than our camaros and firebirds i think and id have to tweak one a little if i had it but what a cool car.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 11:40 PM
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sweet! thanks for posting those pictures.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 11:49 AM
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you can have a bird made into a tojan! You need a donor firebird or trans am and its a little under $19,000 Im not quite sure if it includes paint though...
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 10:19 PM
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Just spoke with Russell Knudsen, the President of Knudsen Automotive and he told me that my car is #39 of around 150 Tojans build from 1984 to 1991. They build around 150 Camaro's which were called Carrab.

Still looking for other Tojan owners.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2232325

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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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i would like to see this carrab thing.
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 08:49 AM
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Originally posted by ZZ4 86 Z28
i would like to see this carrab thing.


Me too. I wonder if it's patterned after the Tojan or totally different....
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 09:11 AM
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Wow, good luck tryin' to find ANY info on the Carrab I just searched Google, webcrawler, askjeeves, Yahoo, not one page came up. It's almost as tho it didn't officially exist, haha.
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 11:18 AM
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 11:24 AM
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Aw snap, I seen those pics before!! I didn't know what the h311 it was at the time tho
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Old Feb 6, 2006 | 04:45 PM
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found this on another post here. its on an ebay auction....
Attached Thumbnails I have an 86 Tojan. Anyone else have a Tojan???-a5_1.jpg.jpg  

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Old Feb 6, 2006 | 04:46 PM
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rear angle...
Attached Thumbnails I have an 86 Tojan. Anyone else have a Tojan???-6f_1.jpg.jpg  
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Old Feb 6, 2006 | 04:46 PM
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last one...
Attached Thumbnails I have an 86 Tojan. Anyone else have a Tojan???-36_1.jpg.jpg  
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Old Feb 6, 2006 | 05:52 PM
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i didnt recognize it from the side or the back, but i have seen that front before. cool stuff, probably worth lost of money.
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 07:56 AM
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Rare dosent exactly mean pretty. I think that design is hideous, then again it was designed in the 80's.
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 03:52 PM
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i think it looks nasty, but i love the door panels and seats.
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 02:01 PM
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looks like a bird on crack
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 02:09 PM
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a saw a bird convertible yesterday. had that same tojan front end (just the front bumper). everything else looked like a regular bird. i got excited, then confused.
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 10:02 PM
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it's not to offend you and your car, but that thing looks weird...a crazy cross of a Fiero GT with a Trans am and then a robot....just looks weird to me
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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Originally posted by tnt_viper
it's not to offend you and your car, but that thing looks weird...a crazy cross of a Fiero GT with a Trans am and then a robot....just looks weird to me
tnt_viper,
I've found that folks either really like it or just don't like it at all. Thanks for checking it out and for your comments.
Sincerely,
Tojan
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 12:57 AM
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There is one of these local to me for sale... 6K and it needs work apparently... It is white, 305TPI auto just throwing that out there. What are the values of these?? any precident set with these yet or are there too few where your guess is as good as mine.
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 02:34 AM
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I have seen a Tojan in person, but always thought it looked really odd and beyond over done. Whatever floats your boat.

Now, if there one was running low 10's, that would be interesting....
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 11:38 AM
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Russel knudsen still makes a kit with the panels he has in his shop, the cost to convert your trans am to a tojan? 18 grand..

They also came out with the mustang rage http://www.myspace.com/ragemustang
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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fit and finish looks worse than an actual thirdgen... if that's possible. Not my style at all, but the interior does look nice and your appears to be in good shape.
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 12:35 PM
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I also don't get why anyone would pay almost double the sticker price of a thirdgen for.... a thirdgen. I mean, these cars don't drive/perform any better, and they don't look nicer- the chevy version looks awful, and I'm not just talking about the styling, but it looks like a bunch of plastic glued on- not very well done in my opinion. I mean, I don't want to offend anyone who like these, they're rare and interesting cars, I just don't understand what the idea behind them was. I guess that's why they only made 300 of them.
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by wayfast84
Russel knudsen still makes a kit with the panels he has in his shop, the cost to convert your trans am to a tojan? 18 grand..

They also came out with the mustang rage http://www.myspace.com/ragemustang
That Mustang looks like a sad catfish. I still hate garish body kits. Less is more.
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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It is good looking, I would rather spend the extra money on modding firebird though. If I got one though, I would keep it.
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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BTW the camaro version of the tojan is called the corralo
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 09:30 PM
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isnt that the car that charlie sheen drove in "the wraith". if anyones ever even seen that movie?
hell yea!!!! awesome movie!!!! worshiped by Turbo Dodge guys everywhere!!!! that car had a 2.2 turbo motor in it....

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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 01:57 PM
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Was there a special edition car built on the Camaro as well? About 30 minutes aog I was on the train and I saw a Camaro with a unique body kit on a lift being worked on. I have to find out about it.
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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TurbomanKnight
Was there a special edition car built on the Camaro as well? About 30 minutes aog I was on the train and I saw a Camaro with a unique body kit on a lift being worked on. I have to find out about it.
I believe that information is two posts above yours Quoted below

Originally Posted by wayfast84
BTW the camaro version of the tojan is called the corralo
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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 02:58 PM
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I believe that information is two posts above yours Quoted below
Why yes, I am an idiot.



Anyone have any photos of one? (Corralo)
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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 03:25 PM
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These were posted earlier this year, curtosy(sp?) of "billsfirebird". At that time, the Camaro version was called "Carrab" not "Corralo"... so which one is it really?!

Oh yea, MHO on that "Rage Mustang" ... FUGLY!!
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 05:16 PM
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i like these cars. theyre kinda like a suped up fiero. i like the rims BTW.
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