well i was going to get some stuff for my car at lowes and on the way home got the urge to go fast... lol. it was raining and it got sideways and jumped my neighbors curb.... lame. at least i still had my old wheels and tires on there. the car is too low to get the jack under it to jack it up and change it so i have to figure something out. ill get some picks up later of the damage. so dad gets home and sees the car up in the air in the back and is like what the hell are you doing? im like uhhhhh.... i spun it sideways jumped the curb and ended up here.... he's like ooo well ill go check on the new tires tomaro and then were putting the old springs back on. me and my bro are like dude wtf i cant believe he didnt go off on me. but ya hopefully yall will see some chrome 17" irocs here soon lol.

i really did it on purpose so i could finally get the new wheels and tires on..... yea bullsh**. i was so pissed. ill get pics up in a min.

 

I have a friend that jumped curbs multiple times with his 91 Z28 while practicing some drifting and the only damage he had was the balljoints. Not every crash is the same but I wouldnt be too worried until you actually see something to be worried about. Our cars are built tough and they can take a beating.

 

i hope shes ok elsewhere. i know how hard youve been working on that thing.

 

well i wont know anything untill i drive it again. but right now all that is wrong is the half dollar size hole in the sidewall. no scratch on the wheel or anything... so i came out very very lucky. and it happend right in front of my house in the neighbors yard luckily no one was home and it didnt tear up the grass very bad. but i feel like an idiot b/c of it. i mean i have messed around b4 and had no trouble controlling but it just got too sideways i couldnt do anything about it. the road was very wet alot wetter than i thought it was so i was stupid for even doing anything. but my parents supprisingly werent too mad at me and the old wheels were on it. but i still havent told them about my tickets so i am still not off the hook... gay. well im bout to go take some pics of it brb.

 

y dont u just drive up onto some wood to jack the car up? i gotta do that with mine

 

yeah why are you putting the stock springs back in it?

 

im going to put stock springs back in b/c the lowered ones are v6 springs i cut. im just going to save up and get some intrax ones. the car is too low with the flat tire to get the jack under it. it is also too low to drive it onto more than one 2x4, any other ideas? the ground effects are getting in the way of everything with it being that low...

 

another angle... the damage is not very bad at all. but i hope all that is damaged is the tire. once i get the new wheels on it ill put it on the lift and see if it did anything underneath. but i considered myself pretty lucky. it was not a fun ride. especially the embarrisment of doing it right in front of my house and going through the neighbors yard. then walking over to see the marks in the road and her yard.... not cool.

 

the hole is about the size of a quarter right on the sidewall.

 

How bout some pics of her yard!! lol

 

stair step the 2 bys

like drive on one, then about 6 inches or so back, go up to another and so on

 

I did close to the same thing a month ago. I curbed out @ 45MPH. Sliced a nice huge V-shaped gash in the tire. Alignment a little off. Other than that, I'm good. Hope you are, too!

 

Here's how you jack the car up man (since my cars are all slammed this is how I do it). Turn the ignition on and turn the steering full lock to the right. Now get the floorjack and jack the car up by the drivers side a-arm. Get the cup of the jack right under the front spring. With the wheel turned full lock you'll have enough space to get the jack under the arm (which sits higher than the k-member or chassis) and not contact the GFX. Then once the car starts to lift up put a single jackstand under the mounting point on the drivers side by the trans tunnel and lower the floor jack. Now you can get the floorjack under the k-member to get the front high enough to put both jackstands under there.

Putting the car back down is a different story. I wouldnt use this method because its hard to guage the space between the tire and GFX with the car in the air. Very likely you'll have contact to either when lowering the car from the a-arm. I would recommend you put the wood blocks under the tires and lower the car with the floorjack under the k-member, then drive off the wood blocks. You could also use a helper jack (like the one that came in the trunk by the spare). This is what I do with me cars, no wood blocks because I dont like it when they move around when driving onto or off of them.

 

You think thats bad, I did the same thing in my dads vette $500 tire later, and it was all good

 

**** happens to us all...including myself...cept i hit another car...bout $3000 later here i am still kickin. Im a kid...i learned my lesson...you just gotta take it easy. My lesson was line the car up straight before you **** around lol or take it to a open parking lot...maybe thats yours too. Anyway once you do get that car up in the air...i dont doubt you prolly bent some front end parts...shake the wheels and what not you should be able to see whats bent and what not.

 

good to see you didnt hurt the car that bad. i will have to agree with turning the wheels and using the arm, u need to keep it slammed, well u might need to bring it up alittle for the 17's but you wont like it after you bring it back up. lol good to hear you and the car are ok

 

i had a freind that drove straight up a curb.... nothing happend at all.... we were going about 25. hope you get yours fixed quick

 

well i got it jacked up and put my dads old chevelle rallys on it. they are 15x7 front 15x8 rear with a 275/60/15 rear tire. it actually looks pretty neat ill post pics later. they will only be on for a week or so untill i get the new tires.

 

thats the size tire i got in the back...cept the rim has like a weird backspacing, i think. i wanna see if it looks like mine does. mine sticks out slighty, not sure if its the tire size or the backspacing of the wheel.

 

I stopped reading there.

 

yep usually nothing good can come out of that...

ZZ4 86 Z28 ya they do stick out a little bit. i have no clue what the backspacing is on these wheels they are the old ones off our 66 chevelle. ill try and get some pics tomaro.

 

so thats what a camaro looks like wrecked huh? oook

 

heres some pics of the loner rims...

 

they actually look pretty good i was supprised. but these are crappy pics ill get better ones tomaro.

edit heres some better pics... man these things look sweet.

 

best looking wrecked camaro i have ever seen

 

ummmm..... this may sound strange but instead of tring to jack the car up. y not use that nice lift the car is on. i kno it sounds weird but its just a thought. by the way those rallies dont look to bad, buddy of mine has em on his 84 z.
matt

 

the car looks good with those wheels. i didnt realize that the front was that low. that has to be atleast a inch lower then mine. but yes you do need to get the front up some, i wouldnt go to the stock height. but looks sweet mike.

 

lol...when my buddy did this, he took out a small tree...

Nice car, nice lift, nice rallyes

 

well i wouldve done it on the lift but i dont have the special jack and jack tray for the middle section of the lift. that cost extra $. but ya the front is very very low. if it didnt scrub on everything i would leave it low but i dont want the new tires scrubbing the inner fender wells. and the chin spoiler scrubs alot and i dont want to mess that up anymore.

 

i always think im scuffing my chin spoiler, but its actually just the airdam under the car, its lower. although it might be different for you.

 

well on mine you can tell its scratching by the paint that has come off of it... it scrubs pretty bad.

 

heres some of the better pics.

 

one more... i just cant get over how good these look though. if i would have known they were going to look that good i would have had them on instead of the stock irocs all this time. the fronts dont look as good b/c they are 15x7's but i could have put those on the front of the corvette and put the 15x8's off the corvette on mine and it woulda looked great.

 

they look ok but not great.

 

i tried to trade you lol. with the same size rear tires on my rims for your irocs and tires. oh well.

 

it looks diff, not to keen on it but looks better then nothing. good luck on getting those tires this weekend. i will have to come over and ck out the irocs on friday after you get home from school. give me a call 808-0019

 

wow,your an idiot. how retarded do you have to be to get the urge to go fast when its raining? its no wonder cars like ours are getting fewer and far between and when we do find one its all beat to hell.and sorry i have no pitty for idiots,its too bad your car had to suffer from retardation.

 

maroon88iroc,

On the topic that ZZ4 86 Z28 is going...I used to think I was scraping the front GFX all the time and it really was just the air dam. All of my front GFX damage was from pulling up too close when I was parking the car. A lot of times, curbs are about 1/4" too high and the front GFX hits. Most people I know with later model thirdgen Camaros have traced it down to parking to close to the curb. Make sure that is/is not the case with you or very soon you'll be trashing it out again.

 

Mark B, that was completely uncalled for. this forum is supposed to be for all the guy with the third gens to get together and help out/have a good time. criticism without answering a question or providing helpful information (which helps figure something out in the topic) is just completely unnecessary. maybe youre just a post *****, but if you dont have anything to say regarding the topic that is at least somewhat helpful than just dont reply, that easy.

 

alright so back to the wrecked camaro? where is it again?

So your car was fine just 1 flat tire? No front end parts were damaged?

 

im a post *****? youve been on this board for how many MONTHS? and have twice the posts i do? et ive been on here for 6 + years? please.


and furthermore,he shows no remorse,complete disregaurd for his safety,and the safety of others,thats unexcusable.i think he should just be glad he didnt jump my curb and end up in my yard,or the yard of many others on this board.


so get overyourself,dont jump my *** because i had to the ***** to speak up,when others wouldnt.ive seen WAY to many of my friends,DIE because of reckless driving,and a few of them were members of this board.

and jsut to get back on topic,the maro looks good with those rallys on it,id leave em,gives it a nice stance,reminds me of what my 84 t/a looked like when i first bought it{even though 70% of this board will flame you} and btw dude,simmer down on the driving habits

 

Yeah...It's always pretty fun, but when you lose traction anything can happen. I instinctively get really cautious when it first begins to rain. Florida drivers SUUUUCCCCKKKKKK!

 

dude im sure you have done something stupid like this b4 as well as many people have i am 17 and yes it was a stupid mistake and yes i am sorry about doing it but if i would'nt have i would have never learner my lesson on messing around in the wet. i consider myself lucky that i did not get hurt and that the car did not get totalled or beat up worse than it did. and i think it is just stupid for you to post that i am retarted b/c i had a minor accident considering there are numerous people on these boards who have totalled their cars. and also i take good care of my car it is not beat on and i do all the usual oil changes and regular maitnence, i just replaced an maf sensor yesterday which was $150. so no the car is not "beat to hell" i take care of my sh** it was just unfortunate that this happend and that i ended up not being able to control it.


i still have to raise the car up on the lift to see if there is any front end damage. the car is out of alignment which will be getting fixed this weekend when i do the wheels and tires.

PhLaXuS i am almost certain that the chin spoiler scrapes in fact i am positive. b/c most everywhere i park is not up to a curb so i know im not hitting any. i think one of the pictures i posted shows some of the damage to the chin spoiler. i try to be carefull with it being that low but it still hits on some stuff.

ZZ4 86 Z28 i know you tried to trade me wheels man and i still think yours look great but i really wanted bigger wheels and either chrome or polished ones. im pretty happy with the ones i got. hopefully i can sell the old irocs.

ssean92 friday after school is good for me ill give you a call tomaro afternoon sometime.

 

I learned my "don't drive crazy when it's wet" rule when I was 17, also. Since you are kind of a new driver, here's some info I've picked up from wrecking my own cars:

1.) ALWAYS wear your seatbelt (I split a windshield down with my face. Friggin OUCH!).
2.) Don't speed down roads you don't know.
3.) Don't drive angry.
4.) The roads are absolutely the most slick when they are barely damp. All the oils and junk rise out of the asphalt when the roads are just a little wet such as right after a very light snow or in a rain drizzle. My car (all of my cars, in fact) grip the road during a heavy downpour almost as well as when it's totally dry. It's that barely wet asphalt which is hell.

Hope I helped. Would've been nice if someone told me this stuff before I trashed a few cars...

 

Takes a lot of ***** to post on a public forum.

Anyway. Maroon, I think the rally's look better than the irocs actually. If you have chrome irocs on the way however, i'd definitely go with those lol.

 

maroon88iroc,

Any more info on the incident. Anything else screwed up? Today, I got fed up with my "wandering alignment" (which is quite dangerous, in fact -- could be anything such as a tie rod getting ready to pop off). Ever since I curbed out @ 45, the alignment has been off. Every now & then I notice that it seems to wander so that the car is pulling either left or right. I kept thinking it was in my head, but today it's a little worse. I went out at 11:00PM when I got home and checked it & here's what I found. The Upper Strup Mount on the passenger's side has bowed upward ~3/16" from the impact. I did a quick check with a flashlight and didn't see anything else wrong. I CAN see how this would make my alignment wander all over the place while driving. I thought I'd cracked my frame where the steering gearbox bolted on, but it doesn't look like it. So...$80 and I hope I'm OK.

 

I dont think its necessarily stupid to do things like this in the rain, but it depends. You can be safe and still have fun and do stuff like donuts or slide around in the rain, learn a little bit about the car. But going too fast for you to control or doing it in the wrong place can be trouble. When my IROC is working and I have tires to burn I'll never turn down a chance to go have some fun. And while it may seem like a waste of time, seeing how the car reacts in certain situations can be helpfull. If you get into a bad situation while driving regularly and you know how to react you can prevent an accident. This happened to me once while driving my 92 B4C on the freeway. I was going 60mph in a heavy downpour and a pickup truck in front of me with no gate dropped some crap out of the bed while moving (boxes and stuff). I wasnt following the truck too close but visability was bad and I had to change lanes very quickly and it was very wet. The car started to slide but before I knew what was happening I had corrected and regained control in the next lane. The person that was behind me hit whatever it was that fell out of the truck. Now I'm not saying I'm some awesome driver or anything but I honestly do think playing around in the rain and learning how the car reacted helped me in that situation.

 

the alignment is off a little. im going to go ahead and change the tie rod ends and maybe centerlink b4 i get it aligned the strut towers look fine but ill check again. thanks for the heads up PhLaXuS.

CrazyHawaiian i agree i did buy a sports car so i could fool around with it a little bit. if i didnt want to do any of that i would have got a v6 or something. but i have had the car slide in the wet b4 the incident but this time was just a little bit of too much correction but yes i agree it can help in some situations but i hope i dont have anything like that happen later on.

 

Are you positive there is no frame twisting or anything? It can sit on the ground normally but still have frame and unibody damage.

 

Exactly what I've done in the past. Wether it be in the rain, mud or snow I'd throw whatever I'm driving around to see how it reacts and handles. No I don't fling my car around in the mud or snow, that's what the toyota 4x4 is for All in all, I think it has helped me react to slippery situations better or when the backend steps out while on the throttle.