I've been searching the classifieds and autotrader.com listings for a little over a month now looking for a Thirdgen Camaro of GTA to call my own. Everytime I think I found a keeper it somehow slips away. Normally getting sold before I get there or the pics look good untill you get there and see the rust and dents....

So in my search for my next third gen (I did drive my brothers 89 Trans Am GTA my senior year of highschool!) I fiqure I'll post the pics of the cars I'm looking at and you guys can commentif you want to.

This one had some issues at $5,250....



This one sold to quick at just $4,400....



And finally this is the one I'm currently pursuing at $4,500...


So these are the break's as they say. Hopefully one of these days I'll get my own thirdgen!

 

what the hell? those prices are kinda high you can get a alright looking IROC in socal for about 2 grand... from some lady or guy who dont know **** about them...

 

Paid 3,000 for mine a year ago i've never seen a 85 body in such perfect condition.

 

from what i can see, that iroc is probably worth the $4500 they are asking, but i'd offer $4k first to see if they bite.

where are you located at? it seems like good lookin' 3rdgens in the northeast that are rust free go for a solid $1500 more than if you were to find one down in my neck of the woods. it's all in the demographics. however, i'd like to know more about that iroc, cause it doesn't have the wheels on it that came from the factory, unless it's a BASE model iroc from 1985... but lookin' at sticker placement and spoiler style, i'd say it's an 89...which makes me wonder what else may have been changed, or if the current owner just wanted to keep the 16" iroc wheels. if that was the case, see if he'll go lower than he's got listed.
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what's wrong with the white 91-92 rs? it looks pretty clean, maybe talk the guy down?

 

Thanks for the info on that IROC, I'll lok in to it. My dad called the guy tonight for me. (I'm active duty (Security Forces) over seas coming home in Aug!!) He said the car was involved in an accident in 1988 and the front end was damaged. It was all fixed back to spec's. Mabye this explains a little about those wheels or decals..? Also non-smoker, good running, no rust and great, great interior! Doesn't leak oil or anything eles, but my dad forgot to ask if it is a TPI or TBi 305. Either way is OK though. The best part **this guy is the orginal owner** Check out some more pics.











The nose piece looks very clean with little to no rock chips or road rash.


My Dad's meeting the guy friday and the guy has agreed to take 4000 even. Because I'm active duty and deployed. If all goes well this will be my first third gen!!!

 

Forgot to mention.....

Its listed as an 1988 CHEVROLET CAMARO, 95K mi, ac, ps, am/fm, 5.0 Liter, 305 IROC-Z Coupe, original owner, stored winters.

Link here AutoTrader.com - Cars For Sale: Car Details


mw66nova<SCRIPT type=text/javascript> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2851571", true); </SCRIPT> can you tell me more about what this model was suppoesd to have on it from factory, I'm very interested.

Thanks

 

if it is a 1988 iroc everything is good on it other than the wheels. im not positive on this but im pretty sure all of the irocs came with these wheels...

but the stripes and everything are correct for an 88 iroc.. the pinstripes along the bottom are correct being the black is over the silver. and the iroc decal is correct being at the back of the door.

 

those 15" wheels were available on the very lowest base model irocs. they were actually a delete option (cause the 16" ones were standard) i believe.

car looks good, very basic, no power nothin' pretty much(manual door locks, windows, hatch).

find out if it's the lb9 or the lo3 (lb9 is the 305 tpi and the lo3 is the 305 tbi) though i'm pretty positive that with the lack of other options, it's an lo3 car. nice find, though i'd offer at most $4k. (i'd only go that high because it's in simply awesome shape and has low-ER mileage.)

 

nice lookin car there. kinda looks like how mine started out. anyway the wheels for the car should be the ones posted above just in 15 inch form. from 85-87 base irocs had the wheels that are currently on the car. from 88-90 they had a 15 inch version of the 16 inch wheels. the motor in the car is a L03 TBI motor. i was able to determine this by the eighth digit of the vin which is E. the car most likely has the 700R4 automatic overdrive tranny and a 2.73 open 10 bolt rear. nice lookin car, good luck
matt

 

i would had never given that much money for that white RS you put a picture of in your first post. that's a LOT of money for an RS, unless it had something very unique like an LS1 swap or something which is unprobable. that IROC looks like a good buy. i'd get on that as soon as possible if i were you

 

I also belive the interior in that iroc was changed. It looks like the black and grey interior offered in the 90-92 RSs. An IROC would have had the preimeum interior and usualy in red or grey on a red car. But I could be wrong. I would ask for the VIN and make sure its a real IROC

 

As camaro430sut said above, the VIN on the autotrader ad you posted, 8th digit is an "E" - which means L03 - TBI 305. If it was an LB9 (TPI 305) it would be an "F".

Those wheels and interior are correct for a "base" IROC...

Good luck!

 

thats basically an RS with an iroc hood and suspension....doesnt seem worth $4,000 with 95k miles and previous collision damage....make sure the frame is straight.

 

Your getting jipped on prices man. If your paying $5000+ for 3rd Gen Camaro, it has to be MINT or all restored/modded.

All the Camaro's I've found... are around the $3200 range and down. I found THREE '91/'92 Z28's with L98 350's and very solid bodies for $2900 - $3200. True, solid 3rd Gen's are hard to come by, but your getting hit hard with prices that shouldn't be paid.

See The Car Below? I Paid A Hella High $5200 For It. But it had a NEW L98 Engine with almost all bolt-ons, disc brake conversion, new paintjob, beautiful interior, decked out suspension, and several other things.

 

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See The Car Below? I Paid A Hella High $5200 For It.

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Disagree: That car is SWEET!


So is that Heritage!

 

That price for the RS is a joke unless it has serious work ( ) done to it or has 5000 original miles. I bought my 91 RS, brand new paint, no body problems, only down side was the 150,000 miles, but i only paid 1000 for it, had it 2 years with no problem.

The iroc is a different story, i dont know about other regions where you guys are from but just around here i would say i have never seen a drivible iroc with a good body for under 5000. I kid i know just paid about 10000 for an '88 iroc convertable thats in pretty good condition but not perfect.

 

I have a 88 RS and I just got it for $400.. Body needs some paint and that was it.. And there no rust at all on it.. I am in northen Cali for a idea on cost of one out here..

 

if you want to get into a pissing contest over low costs, initial cost on my car was $100 and a disc rearend, then i went back and bought my rearend back for $100...

 

my 89 LO3 firebird that HAD a little patch of rust with 45k miles cost me 2400 from a good friend who gives good deals. but i put a lot more than that into it.

 

It's entirely possible that we are turning a corner, gents. Maybe third gen prices are starting to appreciate.

That's my hope anyway.

 

What do u guys thank about moded 3rd gens and there value?

 

Id say same (vs. stock). Unless highly modified and done right. I have seen way to many 3rd gens modded, but had a shattie job! Ex. timing off, cheap gaskets, just overall bad work.

 

Yeah I think third gens are just more $$$ on the east coast??

I see florida and Cali cars going for a grand less then around here. Oh well.

So my possible new IROC has probably got L03 TBI motor. Huh.. Was this motor rated at 170hp? I'll have to do a search to find out how to give this 305 a little more power.....

 

lurk on the tbi boards for a while. there are a couple of people that have had some pretty good success with them so far, few running high 14's...

 

Possibly, but my 1988 SC has the same wheels (15") as shown in the picture (of the IROC), so i believe they were still standard in 1988 as well. But with the Iroc, the 16" might have been standard, if so, I'd find out why there arte 15" wheels on the car as notes earlier. Not a big deal, but I"d inquire about it. My 88 SC was $4,000.00 but the body and underbody was in really nice shape, and it had 54K original miles, and i bought it from the original owner, so i think it was a good deal.

 

Crusin' 1980's your SC had those wheeks because those were the wheels SC's came with. GM used those wheels on camaros all the way up to 92. however on the base irocs it was a 15 inch version of the standard 16 inch wheel that the base cars recieved. as for the TBI motor, its a great starter V8. it can be modded rather easily to put a smile on your face. granted they arent the fastest out there but still fun nine the less.
matt

 

a car is only worth what someone will pay for it.

 

Thats exactly what I want.

I recently sold my 1969 Plymouth Road Runner 440/4sp car last fall due to a divorce and that car was all *****. It was bored .60 over with heads, headers, 31/2" pipes, cam, forged pistons at 10.1 ratio, demon carb. The car was more strip then street. Not a good driver but a great (an expensive) toy. I have pics but cant access photobucket on a military computer, its banned But it was completely restored with hemi-orange paint and a black six-pack lift off hood with black head liner. But its all gone now, and I'm kinda glad. Twiken the motor was a pain and gas was crazy expensive. I sold it for 19,500 but still lost about 2000 on the deal



Now though I'm looking for more of a street car, a driver with a little pep. A good looking car with a V8 engine thats reliable and has A/C . And of course looking awesome is a must. These third gens cant be beat for all that and plus I wont have a car note anymore!!

My first mods will be open element air filter and loseing the cat and running 2 3/4" pipes out the back with mabye flowmaster mufflers. I dont want to do anything to crazy right away...

 

You could always pick up a cheap, carbed 350 out of a junkyard for cheap. Almost ANY good bone year will have a 350 in it. That's always a cheap and easy engine swap and the stock tranny and rear should be good up to about 300hp if you've just gotta mild 350. That's always an option too, espescially if you've got $$$ left over from that Roadrunner......

Just my

 

Geeze, i woulda only paid $5100....firm

 

Overall i like my TBI, but I'll seem like a snail compared to your Road Runner...

 

Forklift, I see the one you are looking at is in northeast ohio. I live in southwest ohio and my 87 GTA is currently for sale. The price is a bit higher than what the cars you are looking at go for but she's in fantastic shape. PM me if you are interested.

 

i hate it when people say that. Thats idiot pricing, that is how much an idiot with no knowledge with cars will pay

a cars value is determined by reliablility, milage, year, looks, production numbers, etc

 

not true. you're basically siding with KBB by saying that...Mileage, looks (or condition), and year are what KBB runs off of solely. i believe this to be complete crap. a car is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. just look at ebay man....the cars sold with no reserve testify that statement

 

I know that if you shop around North TX, F-body's and G-body's are appreciating like mad! A $5000 F-bod today was going for $3 in 2000.
My 89 IROC was aquired in 2000 for $1200. Beautiful interior, oxidized paint in places with a few door dings, all stock and original, 110k miles. Today would be a $3,000+ car easy, in my neck of the woods. And with the paint and mods on it now, I wouldnt be suprised to see it sell for $5000.

 

thats why i said looks, production numbers, ect... all im saying is that just because someone will pay $10,000 for a car that most knowledgeable people would pay $5,000 doesnt make that car worth $10,000

 

yes it does...worth would be a monetary figure. if someone gives $10,000 for a car, it's worth $10,000 since $10,000 went into the purchase of the vehicle

 

ah the old roadrunner....what goo times! my dad is going to pick up the red iroc this thursday for an even 4000. cant wait to get back to the states!












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and my old Jeep (just had to put it in here)




possibly a third gen in the back ground that didnt quite make it...

 

I picked up my 89 IROC-Z w/ L98 110K miles for $2500 like a year and 1/2 ago, it was in great condition for the price. Here's a picture of me abusing it!! hahaha



About 3 years ago I picked up a 92 RS B4C from a police officer for $4500, it had 92K miles on the L98. But then this guy offered me $7000 so I sold it and few weeks later bought the 91 Z28 L98 in my sig for $6500 (but it came with a blower and some stuff hehe).

If I paid over $5000 for a stock 3rd gen, its gonna be a 91-92 and its gonna be a LB9/L98 under 100K miles. Otherwise I wouldn't think its worth it.

 

The thing about buying or selling a car is you must be shameless. If the owner is asking $5000 then offer $2500 cash on the spot. You would be amazed how many people will crumble if the car has been for sale a long time and you are flashing green in their face. The worst that can happen is that they say no. There are tons of nice cars for sale. You don't need to settle.

As far as KBB or NADA values... where do you think they get their data from? Actual sales. The market will drive the price. Not KBB or NADA book values. If you don't believe me then just watch full size SUV and truck sales this summer after fuel prices go up.

 

i've got an '89 IROC-Z for sale in teh classifieds FYI