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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 09:33 PM
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Put a new grill in today. I still have the old body colored one, but i think i like this black one better. Also got a new windsheild and side mirror, but thats hard to see in the pics. Whats everyone think?

heres the old body color grill -



heres the new black one -







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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 10:03 PM
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yup looks way better.. maybe with some fogs would finish off that sweet look
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 10:06 PM
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The black one is much better in my opinion, and i think the fog lights would really help too.
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 10:22 PM
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Hmm. I always thought that you've had a black grill.

Regardless it looks much better. Looks meaner.
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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I think it looks great, there's a lot of red and it adds some contrast, looks bada$$ man..
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 10:45 PM
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thumbs up on the contrast, how about some black window pockets?
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 10:52 PM
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looks awesome man, now all you need are fog lamps and black headlight pockets
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 10:55 PM
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looks awesome man, now all you need are fog lamps and black headlight pockets
Yeah I need to do headlight pockets...
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 10:57 PM
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Love the car dude...
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 11:36 PM
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Thanks for the compliements everyone. the headlight pockets will be staying body color, i think it would look weird with the ghost flames / black pockets.

but i definitely agree on the contrast. At first i didn't like it, because it was such a big change. But it keeps growing on me more and more now. I think the front of the car looks meaner (as superGMan said)
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 12:04 AM
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I think that looks way better! I still think it would look killer with black pockets.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 12:09 AM
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hey what about ghosted pockets!? maybe if you made the ghost shade just a bit darker on the pockets it would be more noticeable

i dunno maybe im tacky...
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 12:22 AM
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I think it looks good with a little more black to break things up!
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 12:30 AM
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Definitely agree on keeping the pockets the way they are. You are right it would torally screw up the clean Ghost-Flame look that is the essence of the whole car.



I don't even know about foglights.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 12:40 AM
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the ghost flames are so good, you don't even notice them first take.

i keep forgetting they're there. in that sense, i change my vote! haha.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 08:13 AM
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Thanks guys. Ive thought about the factory fogs, i like them on the stock 91-92 Z's, but im not sure how they would look with my custom look. These cars already have so many lights on the front already... hmm something to think about though
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 08:14 AM
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I think your headlight buckets need to match the grill. Either spray the headlight buckets or put the red grill back on. The combo you have now looks like every single thirdgen Z on the road that got a sloppy repaint (i.e. no black headlight buckets). At least with the red grill, it followed a theme and looked intentional.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 08:30 AM
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I think the black grill looks good!
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 08:31 AM
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Your car looks amazing! Looks even better with the black grill imo. You can always look into aftermarket fogs if you don't like the factory ones. I've got aftermarket ones on mine, but they're only there cause I'm too cheap to replace them. I think your car looks great with out em though.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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good choice with the black one . It looks better.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by r0nin89
Yeah I need to do headlight pockets...
that's what I was thinking
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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Looks very nice! I think black buckets would actually look great in there, but not needed. Perfect car man.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 02:48 PM
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Looks great, and I would leave the headlamp pockets alone, they look better body colored IMHO.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 03:04 PM
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I think the black headlight buckets would ruin that car! then it would look like every thirdgen Z that someone slaped slicks on. I hate black head light buckets, they date the car to the 80's . you painted the car right the first time. the black grill though added to the car def.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 05:02 PM
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I hate black head light buckets, they date the car to the 80's
Exactly how i feel. thanks for the comments both good and bad!! Again i can always swap in my red one if i get sick of this one. We'll hafta see what it looks like once i get the new wheels on it
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 05:44 PM
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The body colored one looks better imo...added to the custom look of your car. The black one looks more stock and not as clean looking.

Still an awesome ride though...what ever grill you have.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 07:52 PM
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Man that looks so much better, I love the contrast it brought to the red. What wheels are you putting on it and what are you doin with the prostars?
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim85IROC
I think your headlight buckets need to match the grill. Either spray the headlight buckets or put the red grill back on. The combo you have now looks like every single thirdgen Z on the road that got a sloppy repaint (i.e. no black headlight buckets). At least with the red grill, it followed a theme and looked intentional.



*old disgruntled man voice* bahhhhhhhhhhhh what do you know????



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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 11:20 PM
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the black grill looks a bazillion times better nice choice.
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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 1992rs/ss
I hate black head light buckets, they date the car to the 80's

Pshhh, I know, who would want their thirdgen to look like it's from the 80's.
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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 12:29 AM
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Looks good! Your car always looks outstanding. Nice job!
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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 01:41 AM
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I like the body colored grill much better. The black one looks way to out of place.
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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 09:49 AM
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I personally thought your car looked great with the body colored grill. It made it stand out from other cars. If you do decide on keeping the black one I would also paint the pockets black. However, from a distance this will make your car look like every other red thirdgen out there. Your car is far from ordinary.
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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 03:46 PM
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Now that I've read a few more posts, these guys are right. I could make out you're car in any photograph just because of the hood/grill. Now that you've changed to the black one, it will blend in so much more. I don't know if you want that. Personally, it's one of those choices that will boggle you're mind but if you want to "stand out" and be different, than for sure stick with you're original setup. They both look good IMO as thats why every other 3rdgen guy out there does the black grill and pockets. But for the record, you're old setup looked awesome! I've always loved you're car so no matter what you do to it, I'll always like it...lol

Just don't stick a wing on it or something
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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by rwdtech
looks awesome man, now all you need are fog lamps and black headlight pockets
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 06:18 PM
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I think the body coloured grill looked better.. but then again I do like the contrast.

Perhaps if you painted the bowtie black on the body coloured grill it would give it contrast but still definatly have that custom look. Maybe even a solid black bowtie instead of a outlined one.

Food for thought.

Your car is one of my fav's anyway, perhaps I'll stroke my 305, lol!
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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Wow I can't believe how much of a difference it made. Looks great man.
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 06:59 PM
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I like the look with the black grill, but I think you shouldn't get fog lights. Like you said, they wouldn't look as good with the custom look you're going for. I think that maybe a custom intake plumbing would be even better than having fog lights in there. Maybe a custom K&N cold air kid with either the flat filters or the cone filters, both would work nicely. You could even put a black screen in front of the filters to kind of hide them if you wanted to.
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 07:47 PM
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 10:14 AM
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well, in my opinion. black headlight pockets look real good with clearcoat. ever notice how the factory color was just flat black? thats looks outdated. but with clear it looks fresh, another thing, there are other colors than just black for headlight pockets ,.....however in my opinion thirdgens were meant to have a color contrast in the front. it takes away from how many lights there are....but the body colored grill looks better with the setup you have.
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