yeah you guys should listen to ken ... but watch out for those civics with B16 or B18 and turbo ... they will smoke a 350 with boltons ... i've seen it happen!! :0

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--- Currently ---
Maroon 1989 Camaro RS
Crappy 305 TBI / Auto
Hypertech Stage 2 Chip (and 160/ThermoStat)
2.5" Pipes, No Cat, Flowmasters (Dual)
GT Grant Wheel

Planned: Shaved keyholes, antenna
Black w/ Grey Racing Stripes
17x9's in front and 18x9's in back

--- Next Project ---
1992 Camaro z28
K1 Interior Kit, Sparco Seats, Tweeded Interior
TurboCharged L98 w/ T56
Full Suspension, Brake Upgrades, 17x9/18x9
LOTS of bodymods and House of Kolor Chameleon Black/Green paintjob

 

I totally agree this is a pointless topic now.. I'm also all for what Ovrclock350 said.. I don't think a supra is better than a thirdgen, but everyone has their own preferences.. When I get my dream car, a special 350 lotus, does that mean that I'm a ***** cuz my car is also considered an import with writing all over it and everything?? Everybodyhas their own tastes and this is an appearance forum for where you are supposed to help someone when they need it, not trash them and tell them their idea is stupid! Look at all the people that saw the supra looking body kit for the camaro and goes, that thing is bad *** .. well why is making a camaro a jap car bad *** , but buying a jap car and modding that not?? stickers are rice.. Modding is not! So far this whole post NOBODY has had any DECENT argument against ovrclck and I feel if it continues to stay this way nobody WILL have a decent argument.. The people on this forum have to get their head out of a hole and realize what rice REALLY is and what rice REALLY isn't.. The truth is the people who import cars are just like us.. they find a car they love/like the look of and make it fast.. Hell if I rathered the appearance of a jap car then I'd do the same damn thing.. so don't go off on a tangent yelling RICE this and RICE that.. And just watch what you say, because there is "Rice" out there which will blow the doors off you... Fart pipes?? only on ricers... The skyline in japan is 274 hp.. WITH the bottlenecks because that is the legal limit in japan.. Removing the bottlenecks makes one damn fast car.. I don't know the HP because they aren't here. But you have to admit a car with that much horsepower has to be a nice car. BTW the old ones are rear wheel and the new ones are 4 wheel drive.. so you can't call them front wheel drive ****..

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92 Rs Heritage Edition Camaro
305
3.27 posi Rear end
Flow masters
not to much else to make it more than stock until I put that 350 in shortly

IM: DarkHal 2000
Feel free to join my Webring listed on my web page (X-treme Fbody). I'm always looking for third gen's to add.
My site, http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/m/jmj211/index.htm

 

Thanks Red. I knew that there are some level headed people around here.

 

absolutely.



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92 Rs Heritage Edition Camaro
305
3.27 posi Rear end
Flow masters
not to much else to make it more than stock until I put that 350 in shortly

IM: DarkHal 2000
Feel free to join my Webring listed on my web page (X-treme Fbody). I'm always looking for third gen's to add.
My site, http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/m/jmj211/index.htm

 

Ovrclck350 I have agreed with everything you've posted in this thread. Seems to me there are just some "unbalanced" individuals on this site that know they will never drive anything other than an old thirdgen. I guess it bothers them enough to flame other cars and take on the mentality : "I'd rather have my 3rd gen than a supra or 300zxtt."

3rd gens are nice, inexpensive, and plentiful cars to modify. However I think the only value they really hold is sentimental. Other than that, gimme gimme gimme a twin turbo.
Ooh yea that diablo is also sweet.

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91 Formula 1LE 1 of 46
305 TPI 5speed
1LE/G92/WS6

Paxton SN92 supercharger, Ford SVO 24#injectors, Crane AFPR,SLP airfoil, ported/polished plenum, March alt. pulley,Crane Gold 1.6rrs,MSD coil,MSD6AL (5400rpm limit),Holley 9mm wires,Ac delco R43ts plugs,custom chip,Bosch O2sensor,SLP 1 5/8" headers,SLP catback,shortened shifter,3:73s w/Auburn posi,180* t-stat,JET 195* fan switch, Macewen white face gauges, Autometer gauges, Zoom hi-performance clutch.

[This message has been edited by theformula (edited April 26, 2001).]

 

" To everyone who says what u hate imports"

No we do not hate imports we hate ricers!!!!
A ***** is a slow car with the apperance of a fast car. The driver of the ***** goes around and says oohhh my car is so fast and bad!!! When all he did was add a ten foot whale tail to he rear of his 4banger 100hp civic!!! That is what we hate not imports!!!!

U get what I'm saying I love fast cars no matter where they come from but ricers can kiss my rear end when i blow past them in my camaro!!!!!!

 

To YellowIroc:
Cheap foreign cars? Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about. My car from the factory was over 20K dollars.. You have a 3rd Gen, talk about cheap.
As for the muffler, I personally beleive that the v6 camaros with exhaust sound like total a$$ . But that's just me, I don't know how many people have told me that drive WS6's, Corvette's, and a guy with a camaro ss that my exhaust sounds bad a$$ .


To 89rsRod:
So just because something came from another country you don't like it? A car from the factory you consider rice. What about a black person from Africa, are they instantly a 'nig-ger' to you? Or are all the spanish 'wet-backs'? Grow up.

To JZA:
Thank you, one educated person so far.

My Civic pulled 1.04g's on the skidpad. Get your RS there, then we will talk.






[This message has been edited by ShinerBockSi (edited April 26, 2001).]

 

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I WOULD RATHER PUSH A CAMARO THAN DRIVE AN IMPORT

1983Z28 350w/ edelbrock performer RPM power package with 64cc aluminum heads, dynomax shorty headers, 700R-4 with shift kit, 750cfm carb, edelbrock 3" exhaust system, ASCD SS hood, 16" IROC rims.

future mods:
completely done over suspension, black paint with flames, Hurst shifter, dakota digital gauge package, procharger supercharger.

 

I didn't agree with what you said at first but you are entitled to your opinoin and Yellow iroc didn't have a point and he is a giant a-hole I wouldn't drive one but when it all comes down to it we all love are cars and that is what matters.

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82 Firebird with a 2.8 but a 350 is on the way

87 Chevy K20 4x4 TBI pickup

71 Olds Cutlass S My ongoing project. Olds
350 with a th350

 

Had to put this on here!!!!!!!
Quote taken from that riceboy page!!!!

~~~What the dumb a$$ ***** said~~~
I've seen many Japanese imports kick domestic a$$!!! American cars are still low-tech pieces of $hit that can't handle and are only fast in a straight line!!

~~~What a true rice hater would say~~~
Really? Which Japanese imports kick which domestic cars' a$$? I have a feeling that you are comparing fixed up imports with stock domestics. A lot of rice-boys seem to like to do this, as if it were illegal to fix up a V8 engine or something.

And by the way, American cars are not "still low-tech pieces of $hit". Case in point: Chevrolet Corvette vs. Acura NSX-T. The Acura NSX is touted as being a display of technical mastery, the pinacle of Japanese engineering. Yet the Corvette, hailed as "America's Sportscar" not only outperforms it in a straight line, but out slaloms the NSX, out skidpads the NSX, and hell, it even brakes better than the NSX. If the Corvette is a low-tech piece of $hit, then what does that makes the NSX?

 

Geez, what started off as such a good story post has turned into this. anyway. to the dude with the 1.04g Civ. Much respect. I dislike rice-boys with a passion. here at PSU they're not too outrageous, viper stipes on a probe here, silly wing on a civ there, fart mufflers everywhere tho. ****ing anoying *** mufflers. however, you shouldn't be using your car in defence of rice-boys. i mean, i don't see how anyone could really make that claim on your car so you shouldn't take offense.

a ***** is a guy who thinks he has a fast car, just because it's his. to make sure that everyone else thinks his car is fast, he spends money to make it LOOK fast, instead of spending money on making it fast for real - how would anyone know it's fast then. then he races other cars like his because they are fairly common and when for real fast car rolls up and beats him, there are the excuses, and the radio blaring. 'my clutch slipped' 'i spun' or defenses of why his car is fast. 'mine has 100+ hp per litre.' 'mine has DOHC' 'mine has VTEC' the guy with the faster car replys 'mines faster'

bottom line, any car that does 1.04g performs, in corners anyway, and thus is not a ***** even if it is a family car. come to think of it, isn't there a word for a family car that performs? o yeah, musclecar. if your car has some 'go' to match that 'zig' that'd be pretty badass. i would think guys like you would take more exception to these jerks with cars like yours that act like dicks on the road and got nothing to back it up with.

to finish up, i think what the guy with the RS was saying is that comparing a civ with aftermarket suspension to a RS with stock suspension doesn't really make sense. that'd be like comparing a winston cup monte carlo to the one in the showroom, one's modded, one's not, of course the modded one has an advantage. what i would ask of guys who do comparisons like that is to stop and think for a second that if they do a certain mod or mods to a grocery getter, think what they'd do to a car that's already head and sholders above it.

 

Ok my two cents

Yes skylines and some of those jap turbos are extremely hooked up and killer in the speed factor. But for the price you can get a twin turbo vette from MR. Lingefelter that hits 230 mph. 0-60 is in about 3.2 seconds with a considerable amount of wheelspin. GO american!!!! All for the convienent price of 105k

 

chief knows whats up. im not trying to say a camaro can outhandle a civic with full suspension work ... it dosnt make sense, the civic is WAY lighter so yeah its gonna take a turn better. what i was talking about was ppl with dropped civic 'outhandle' some other car with stock suspension ... its just not fair.

here's my take on it: only way for imports to hang = full suspension + motor swap + power adder (turbo/super/NOS). with that combo the import will beat a mostly stock v8 car. im glad your civic can pull 1.04 G's. thats nice. do you ever really race it?? mountain roads??? I know when im done with my 92 its not gonna pull 1.04 ... im hoping for .92 and above. so yeah your civic can pull more G's but i think its impossible for a civic to push 600+ rwhp (which im aiming for). what am i saying??? each car has its good and bad points and comparing stock to aftermarket is bullsh|t.

and just to let you know, i know a guy with a 2000 civic si running high 12's (12.98 or something) so i give props to people who mod their cars correctly. im not an import hater.

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--- Currently ---
Maroon 1989 Camaro RS
Crappy 305 TBI / Auto
Hypertech Stage 2 Chip (and 160/ThermoStat)
2.5" Pipes, No Cat, Flowmasters (Dual)
GT Grant Wheel

Planned: Shaved keyholes, antenna
Black w/ Grey Racing Stripes
17x9's in front and 18x9's in back

--- Next Project ---
1992 Camaro z28
K1 Interior Kit, Sparco Seats, Tweeded Interior
TurboCharged L98 w/ T56
Full Suspension, Brake Upgrades, 17x9/18x9
LOTS of bodymods and House of Kolor Chameleon Black/Green paintjob

 

That's pretty good, fastest I've got mine is 13.78@104 in the 1320. That's bone stock with a little bit of nitrous. I'm selling my Honda anyways to get a truck. I'm tired of trying to make cars go fast, 2001 CBR600F4i here i come.

 

Well I have seen gnx's doing 9's too...but they are in now way close to stock. They had the 4.1 racing motor, built (not stock) bottom and top end and yes a bigger turbo and a heavily modified fuel system to pump 125 PSI with 38-40lb injectors, so they got worse milage than a comlimentry 8er. As I said before I love american muscle and believe it over everything else...but americans need to know what cars to look out for. PERIOD. There are eclipes's out there with 4 bangers that will run mid 11's all day.
I have yet to see an american car's engine handle over 10 PSI of turbo/super charger other than a GNX, which can hadle I think 11 maybe 12. Now being forced to go back to the dreaded import world, a 96 supra TT can withstand 2.7 bar(or 28-29 PSI and sorry to say but that particular car ran low-mid 7's all day long and looked completely stock). Now I am no rocket scientist but thats a **** load of boost for a stock bottom end...
And crusader and phantom tpi those loving tta's and gnx's(turbo grand nationals) can get into the 11's with just a intercooler and cam. To get faster they need a block, bigger turbo, new fuel system, new exhaust, new computer, rear suspension and slicks to name just a few things. All in all that amounts to a **** load of money. Not to mention the inital high cost of tring to get one in the first place. I will say with great ease that in just the engine and fuel system upgrades you will be looking at 12k easy. The exhaust 3-400, suspension is up to the owner. but I will bet it will be up there as well. Now add this to the buying price between 22-30k you are looking at the mid 40's to get something fairly streetable, with another 2-3k you have a respectable street car.

So that amounts to approx 45-46k, about the same money for a nice vette. To the guy that said the Ligenfetter vette TT was 105...try 125-130 as per Speed Visions Road and Track T.V. show. And yes I have seen the Texas compay Venom produce Vipers with over 1000 ponies, and I have seen in articles only a 985 TT caprice/impalla LS1. I am saying that the americans have done very little with the turbo technology, but when they do use it they find amazing results for 1 maybe 2 lines of cars. Then they quit using it?. WTF is this about. You find something that makes good power then refuse to use it? You can gain over 30 percent more power from a turbo over a supercharger simply because it takes less power to make the additional power from the turbo.


[This message has been edited by Camaro_hunter_d (edited April 27, 2001).]

 

11 or 12? Dunno about the GNX but STOCK the TTA's facory setting was set for 16.5 max boost.

 

Thirdgens were one of the best handling cars of their era next to corvettes. Show me a car in 85 that could corner like an IROC at .87g's that was huge back then and is still respectable now, civics are cornering stock at .77-.79? something. Just stating facts no opinions here

 

exactly

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86 IROC 305 TPI LB9 700R4 W/ Shift kit, K & N, Flowmaster gutted cat 95 Z tips, airfoil, 160 thermo, removed emissions, Summit cam kit 442 lift springs and lifters, ADS super chip, Summit timing chain, modified MAFS, tranny cooler, polished rims, Good Year yellow letter nascar 235/55 tires, polished runners and plenum, 145 Speedo, remote start, keyless entry, alarm, yellow neons underneath.

 

Back to the original story... That was a beautiful move to put on him! No way could he have ever made that curve! A thing of beauty is a joy forever.

(PhantomTPI-I must say I like your screenname!)

 

thank you Phantom

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86 IROC 305 TPI LB9 700R4 W/ Shift kit, K & N, Flowmaster gutted cat 95 Z tips, airfoil, 160 thermo, removed emissions, Summit cam kit 442 lift springs and lifters, ADS super chip, Summit timing chain, modified MAFS, tranny cooler, polished rims, Good Year yellow letter nascar 235/55 tires, polished runners and plenum, 145 Speedo, remote start, keyless entry, alarm, yellow neons underneath.

 

Cmon guys...your getting a lil carried away with this...Japanese auto manufacturers make fast cars (Supra, skyline, NSX etc.) they also make economy cars (Civic, Accord, haha Insight) but the thing is...so do american auto manufacturers. A rice boy is anyone who tries to make their slow economy car look fast...It doesnt have to be an import although it usually is. What about some guy who puts a spoiler and 3 inch pipe on his Chevy Metro? HE'S A RICE BOY! The "rice" is just because japanese economy cars are usually the ones you see most. Is a supra a rice car? hell no. do americans and japanese make nice performance cars? yes! so why be prejudice against on or the other?

 

Because the Prelude was ****in with me. He pulled up, revved his engine and took off. He got what he asked for


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86 IROC 305 TPI LB9 700R4 W/ Shift kit, K & N, Flowmaster gutted cat 95 Z tips, airfoil, 160 thermo, removed emissions, Summit cam kit 442 lift springs and lifters, ADS super chip, Summit timing chain, modified MAFS, tranny cooler, polished rims, Good Year yellow letter nascar 235/55 tires, polished runners and plenum, 145 Speedo, remote start, keyless entry, alarm, yellow neons underneath.

 

I tell you what Ovrclk, sounds like you need to go buy a Honda with a fart pipe, and leave this site. Maybe a 4 foot wing on the back too??? Just a suggestion....

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BigBlockJason
85 Z28 T-Tops
http://communities.msn.com/JasonsStuff/homepage

 

Man, those damn center dividers are killers! I hit one in my '83 Z28 after leaving a bar one night. I was headed for the gas station across the street, but failed to see the big yellow divider in the middle. I hit it hard as I was accelerating to get across the street before the on coming traffic. As I rolled into the gas station, my car had gotten much louder than it had been a few moments earlier. I had dented the hell out of my oil pan and ripped a big hole in the 'Y' pipe! That was ****ed up!

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'68 Camaro Vortec 350
'91 Camaro RS TBI 305

I used to have a Z28!

 

that's possibly the rudest thing I ever heard dude.. Ovrclk just stated his opinion and you have to be an ******* about it?? YOu disgust me.. Make me ashamed to drive a thirdgen with scum like you, and I love my thirdgen more than anything.. That's saying a lot when you make me feel disgraced to drive it.



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92 Rs Heritage Edition Camaro
305
3.27 posi Rear end
Flow masters
not to much else to make it more than stock until I put that 350 in shortly

IM: DarkHal 2000
Feel free to join my Webring listed on my web page (X-treme Fbody). I'm always looking for third gen's to add.
My site, http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/m/jmj211/index.htm

 

sorry but the stock settings for any car are not over 9 at most. except for the imports. I stated earlier I did not want to get any flames going, it seems that a few cannot see past the third gen camaro/firebird...What a pity. there are other cars on the road that do just as good and quite a few that do better than ours. You guys swearing buy your NOS and 350 you should meet a twin t supra/300 tt Z or a simalar with NOS and see what happens...and remember that they only have a 6!

[This message has been edited by Camaro_hunter_d (edited April 28, 2001).]

 

Now I have to post this...I don't care what others think but I like american muscle and go buy it when possible. But I must say that if I had he chance to buy this 92 Supra that a guy in my town is selling I would buy it in a heart beat.
And by the way it has a stright 6 that runs 11.76@138.08. It was a non turbo engine but the guy put on the twin t setup and the engine takes it rather well at 22 PSI...

P.S. his "kill" List. 97 vette, 99 vette, 01 vette, to many third gens to count he says, 99 ss, 00 ss, 99 TA, 01 TA, 74 Z28 w/502, 74 nova w/477 chrged/nitros, he says he has taken a viper in the half mile after that it catches and is passing. but then again you are comparing a 6 to a 10. If you want a more complete list I will get it from him.

 

I also stated that he swapped in the tt set up so he has the tt injectors yes. I think they are 29HR I am not sure though..they may be 35...

 

when we say *****, i don't think we include supras

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86 IROC 305 TPI LB9 700R4 W/ Shift kit, K & N, Flowmaster gutted cat 95 Z tips, airfoil, 160 thermo, removed emissions, Summit cam kit 442 lift springs and lifters, ADS super chip, Summit timing chain, modified MAFS, tranny cooler, polished rims, Good Year yellow letter nascar 235/55 tires, polished runners and plenum, 145 Speedo, remote start, keyless entry, alarm, yellow neons underneath.

 

I still don't understand how someone could say something such as "got what was coming to him" when someone gets into an auto accident. What bothers me more, is the fact that you wouldn't probably say it if the guy would have been driving an F-body and just happened to lose control from TOO MUCH power. Yes, I've seen that happy. Do you realize that the guy in the car could have (didn't but it was possible) died? And you were only contributing by falling into his little game. You stated that you too were bobbing and weaving through the traffic with him.

BigBlockJason, I don't see why you would even say that. Not once did I say anything about liking high wings and spoilers, and all the "rice" equipment. I JUST said that I would take a Supra or 300Z over a thirdgen anyday.

 

Dude Ovrclck I'm right on the same boat with you.. this post is getting so out of hand.. I understand the concept of the front wheel drive not cornering as well as the rear wheel drives, that's a fact.. but the got what he had coming?? what about you yellowiroc, what if your back tires lost traction and you spun out and hit the guard rail, does that mean you got what you had coming?? I think this is a bunch of BS that nobody can see another sports car as a good car, instead it's all rice.. nobody said a civic with stickers is a sports car, but a civic that can take on other sports cars and win is not rice, but someone's tuned masterpiece, just as everyone here loves their car, apparently the person who took the time to mod that thing loves it too.. It'd feel awful saying that the guy in the prelude got what he had coming.. aparently he liked his prelude and thought it was a good car (to him it is) and you like you camaro.. so if that **** were to happen to you how does this change the whole situtaion it becomes unfortunate and almost tragic, cuz you could have been seriously hurt? That's not a good way at looking.. you all disgust me... Ovrclk.. why is it so hard to breach the stupidity that can't seem to get their stuborn idea's of rice out of their head, and why is everyone so damn insensitive?

 

yea yellowiroc lets change the story around a bit... what if u was in the front in your beat up ******* camaro and a ferari was behind you and all of a sudden your back tires loose traction and you go spinning and jumping curbs and all that and the ferari just passes you blows the horn and waves at you. DID YOU HAVE IT COMING TO YOU? WOULD YOU BRAG ABOUT THIS STORY ON HERE? WOULD IT BE FUNNY THEN?????

 

I would've deserved it, I would've expected them to laugh. You guys sound like little bhitches. You want a Kleenex?
If the guy woulda died, I might have felt sorry for him, but he didn't...end of story. You guys should work for Prairie Farms.... you like milkin' shiiiit for more than it's worth.

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86 IROC 305 TPI LB9 700R4 W/ Shift kit, K & N, Flowmaster gutted cat 95 Z tips, airfoil, 160 thermo, removed emissions, Summit cam kit 442 lift springs and lifters, ADS super chip, Summit timing chain, modified MAFS, tranny cooler, polished rims, Good Year yellow letter nascar 235/55 tires, polished runners and plenum, 145 Speedo, remote start, keyless entry, alarm, yellow neons underneath.

 

Sorry to say that engine is NOT STOCK BY ANY MEANS. They balance it blueprint it and use stonger rods, bearings, pistons, crank, cam, heads just to name a few.


Though yes I admit I was wrong about the turbo settings for the 89 TTA it was 16.5..but I still say that 250 poines is still pretty bad for that much boost.

 

I can't believe you said if he died I MIGHT have felt bad.. don't tell me that I'm milking something for more than it's worth, the guy crashed his car which he liked, and you couldn't give 2 ****s because it's "rice". That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I'd say hey so in this story we see that american rw drive cars can out corner the very popular fw drive jap cars, but it was unfortunate that he got into that accident, and I feel bad that he ruined his car.. I'm glad that you are so insensitive.. Don't get into an accident.. or I may just laugh...

 

why don't you incluse supra YellowIroc..is that beacuse they can compete with the almighty F-Body easily?...You know that the TT 300z con do the same...Do you choose NOT to include that one as well?. How about the 87 RX-7 with the twin turbo rotary that can run 10's?...Do you not include that one too?...

Why can't you people see competition as competition and not pick and choose the cars you want to trash. And before someone tries to tell me to go buy a honda and put a fart pipe on it let me assure you that if I did I would make sure it would beat any F-Body it came accross. And I have to say I would probly buy a supra or a subaru WRX...I have seen the aftermartket for these and they can become very nasty. a little horizontal 4 or 6 that can make 350/475 ponies respectively(with little modification I might add.) and with that AWD all 4 tires spin to get it moving...

 

Interesting viewpoints but folks how come nobody ever mentions the 3000GT VR4s. Twin Turbos and AWD&AWS too. I liked them enough to get one too to go with my '91 Z (depends on the mood/weather conditions) and it complements my Z28 nicely I think.

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How many times do we need to define ricers in one post? Scroll up and you'll see what we mean. Or do we need to say it again. A jap piece of shiiit that adds stupid wheels, a loud muffler, stupid stickers and drives around like a hot rod. I never slammed on stock import cars with normal drivers. And yea red demon... keep on milkin'.

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86 IROC 305 TPI LB9 700R4 W/ Shift kit, K & N, Flowmaster gutted cat 95 Z tips, airfoil, 160 thermo, removed emissions, Summit cam kit 442 lift springs and lifters, ADS super chip, Summit timing chain, modified MAFS, tranny cooler, polished rims, Good Year yellow letter nascar 235/55 tires, polished runners and plenum, 145 Speedo, remote start, keyless entry, alarm, yellow neons underneath.

 

Well 250 was the official rating from GM, but it actually pulled 300 on the GM dyno. But with the 89 Corvette only being rated a 255 - GM didn't advertize the actual rating.

[This message has been edited by Crusader (edited April 29, 2001).]

 

Hell yah, those are sweet.

 

OK yellowiroc, picture this, instead of a Prelude in front, it's a 2001 LS1 WS6 TA. Because you're being an @$$ and riding his tail, he punches the gas and breaks the tires loose, spins out, and wrecks his car. Did he "get what he was deserving?"

You are one messed up individual who has no compassion or value for human life. "I might have felt sorry for him". You give thirdgen owners a bad name.

 

Lock this fu[king post, it's getting annoying as hell

 

Actually, an interesting note. Thirdgen's were the BEST handling car's of their era, period. I think Road and Track or Car and Driver, one of those, named the 85 IROC THE BEST HANDLING DOMESTIC CAR, outhandling all Firebirds, and Vette's. I think stock I've read as high as .90 g's...

 

Of course I'd feel bad if someone was hurt... ***** or domestic. Fact is, the guy was fine. Do you really think I woulda drove by laughing if the kid was killed. No, I'd regret it forever. If we went through life anticipating the worst that could happen, life would be boring. We take chances, we win some, we lose some. When you lose, sometimes you're ridiculed... tomorrow is another day, life goes on. This was a day where no one was injured, the kid couldn't handle a ***** because he was trying to show off, now he has a bill to pay, no harm in taking a moment to thank god it's him not me. Would you guys quit being little bhitches about it, you and your sensitivity issues? Whoever said this post was getting annoying, don't read it, no one asked you to. The TA analogy... same thing, get to know your car before you do stupid shiiit.
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86 IROC 305 TPI LB9 700R4 W/ Shift kit, K & N, Flowmaster gutted cat 95 Z tips, airfoil, 160 thermo, removed emissions, Summit cam kit 442 lift springs and lifters, ADS super chip, Summit timing chain, modified MAFS, tranny cooler, polished rims, Good Year yellow letter nascar 235/55 tires, polished runners and plenum, 145 Speedo, remote start, keyless entry, alarm, yellow neons underneath.

[This message has been edited by yellowiroc (edited April 29, 2001).]

 

yellowiroc You are a *****

 

ShinerBockSi: you are fighting the wrong battle, we aren't hating on imports, we're hating on RICE, there is a difference. Isn't it embarrassing to you to see a 17 second import that has a huge wing no interior and mad stickers on it? You see that and you probably feel the way we feel when we see trailer trash 3rdgens.. There are plenty of fast imports out there, no one is denying that.

I am still waiting for a 4 second top fuel 4-banger, then I'll be impressed, until then the V8 is still king of the 1/4..

 

Yeah, the post I was refering to though was about anything imported, like anything from japan. I hate ricers, but here if my def. of rice.

Rice to me is anything on a car, domestic or import, that does not make the car any faster. Now, big wheels and a drop. Many of you come onto this one as well. Bigger wheels and lower suspension allow you to go into the corners faster for auto-x and hold the curves better. I hate rice, but don't consider an import that is fast and nice, 'rice', by any means.

 

I think your all's deffenition of rice is funny...well except for ShinerbockSi's.
You consider anything that has a loud "fart" exhaust, big tires, stickers and a show off driver to be rice?...You guys need real lives and face some real imports.
To simply say if a plane jane looking supra with big tires, is lowered and has stickers you would call it rice. But what if you decided to race it and found out it was a "real" ***** and it flew past ya at mach speed while your stuck in first?...is it still rice?...
You come up with a wide band of cars t call "rice" well hell stick to your guns and call all japanesse cars rice and be done with it. I find it halarious that you do not call real competition "rice". But het next time you see that accord with those stickers and that fart exhaust and laugh at it...But to your surprise it has a Garret T-4 under the hood and you have great trouble playing catch up I will be lauhging at YOU!.


And I did mention something about those AWD monsters that are coming out of the fabulous swedish land.

 

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Gotta say, this post is stupid. It started out great, a ***** kill, literally. Nobody was hurt and he ended up with a repair bill to eat for showing off. Personally it woulda been just as sweet of a kill if it was a 01 WS6, a Porche 911, or a truck! Anyone showing off like that and screws up go what they had coming to them. Simple as that.. you play with fire you will eventually get burned. We all screw up, it sucks when it is you, it can be cool if it is someone else. Most people have seen both ends of that stick!
This reminds me of the post about a kid in a Civic Si that killed himself by flipping over his car doing a high speed pass in a canyon or something. Almost the same exact reply types in general, some people felt sorry for him, some people didn't.
As yellowiroc (I think it was him) said basically was live for today, and thats what you gotta do sometimes. What fun would it be if we really thought abouy everybody else 100% of the time... boring as hell, and you can't argue about that! Plain and simple, you can't because then where would be no such thing as simple screwing around in your car, doing burn outs etc, who knows, there might be a baby alseep 600 feet away and they might wake up from their nap at 3 PM, I better not chirp my tires!

Anyway, a lot of people on both sides are acting stupid and this post should be locked...

My .02
Douglas