yellowiroc

OK... for those of us who hate ricers thinking they're bad a$$ ... listen to this story.
I was out cruzin' last night with a friend... drivin' around messin' with mustangs and what not, and a Honda Prelude V-tec pulls up along side while I'm going about 45 and takes off. I get up behind him as we bob in and out of the 2 lane traffic. About 100 yards ahead is a 160 degree ramp that leads right to a straight away perfect for racing. I'm right behind him and I signal my right turn to take the ramp hoping that he'll see it and take it. Like I said, the ramp turns at about 160 degrees while raising about 25 feet with maybe a 75 ft' diameter, so it's pretty tight. The prelude decides to try to out-run me going up the ramp but i stay right on his a$$ doing close to 65 mph and about 75% through the incline, his rear end slides out from under him, he hits the brakes and goes over the 1 foot center median. Sparks went flying because he had it lowered and nailed hard as hell. It looked like his front driver side wheel was pushed back, his front ground fx... destroyed and top top of it all, him and his friend looked like the biggest dumb a$$es. Funniest thing ever, so all i could do was slow down and waive. How dumb can you be trying to outcorner an IROC? Don't people know these cars were made for this.


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86 IROC 305 TPI LB9 700R4 W/ Shift kit, K & N, Flowmaster gutted cat 95 Z tips, airfoil, 160 thermo, removed emissions, Summit cam kit 442 lift springs and lifters, ADS super chip, Summit timing chain, modified MAFS, tranny cooler, polished rims, Good Year yellow letter nascar 235/55 tires, polished runners and plenum, 145 Speedo, remote start, keyless entry, alarm, yellow neons underneath.

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Red Demon

one word...
HAHAHAHAHAHA

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92 Rs Heritage Edition Camaro
305
3.27 posi Rear end
Flow masters
not to much else to make it more than stock until I put that 350 in shortly

IM: DarkHal 2000
Feel free to join my Webring listed on my web page (X-treme Fbody). I'm always looking for third gen's to add.
My site, http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/m/jmj211/index.htm

89FormulaL98

silly FWD ricers.... hehe

Ovrclck350

Silly rabbit, rice if for kids.

PhantomTPI

Precisely....

Camrs89

YES!!!

1991tealRSt-topGuy

THATS THE BEST STORY I HEARD IN A LONG TIME..........but hey i'm a kid (17) and a ***** sure as hell ain't for me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!hehe

MetalliCamaroRS

iTrader: (15)

Thats the way to do it... maybe if this happens enough, eventually we can get rid of them ALL

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1992 Camaro RS
305ci automatic, all stock til I get some cash.
My 1992 RS

Jiffy

Hey you guys are mean...he could have been hurt of killed...but then agian that what he gets for driving a *****.

Ovrclck350

LMAO. That seriously was wrong. Who cares what you drive as long as you drive it w/ a passion. Sure, we laught at them, they laugh at us, we laugh at mustangs, mustangs laugh at us, WE ALL LAUGH AT EACH OTHER, BUT HAVE ONE THING IN COMMON. We all love our cars, and that's what really matters, no matter domestic or import. And uh, not trying to be flamed or anything, but I'd take a 300Z or Supra ANYDAY over a thirdgen.

yellowiroc

No one asked you Ovrclck350

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86 IROC 305 TPI LB9 700R4 W/ Shift kit, K & N, Flowmaster gutted cat 95 Z tips, airfoil, 160 thermo, removed emissions, Summit cam kit 442 lift springs and lifters, ADS super chip, Summit timing chain, modified MAFS, tranny cooler, polished rims, Good Year yellow letter nascar 235/55 tires, polished runners and plenum, 145 Speedo, remote start, keyless entry, alarm, yellow neons underneath.

vic_V8

put this story on speedmagazine.com all people do on that site is tell stories and fight about chevy v.s. ford v.s. ricers.
Go V-8s !!!!!

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late model 91 rs
fully loaded t-tops
red leather
paint- gm red and yellow blend (light red)
custom pink rims
305 tbi k&n,computer chip
MTX sub and amp (very loud)
vic_v8@yahoo.com

Mach5

I think i will ignore the statement Ovrclk made abot taking a Supra or 300Zx over a thirdgen. Does he have some kind of sickness? I love my car too, more than enough to be drawn to a weedwacker on steroids.

Ovrclck350

What's your problem? I just said that even though I love my thirdgen, I would still go for a 300Z, or a Supra.



And bye the way, what the hell does this have to do with appearance?

Mikes86SC

Now that's what I call a KILL!

Ovrclck350

Please, Weedwacker on Steriods? Do you realize that the 300Z TT's run 13.30's stock and put 310HP? Hell, the non turbos pull 220+HP. Besides, having a foreign car does not deem you a *****. Most people think IMPORT=*****. Guarantee you if I pulled up in a Diablo you wouldn't call me a *****.




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yellowiroc

it has to do with appearance because the crap ***** messed up his car and now he needs to fix it. by ***** we mean... honda, toyota, hyndai... the cheap foreign cars... the ones that sound like a weed wacker, the ones people buy thinking it's a hot rod, they add some wheels, an obnoxious muffler and think they're bad. does a lamborghini sound like a weed wacker?

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86 IROC 305 TPI LB9 700R4 W/ Shift kit, K & N, Flowmaster gutted cat 95 Z tips, airfoil, 160 thermo, removed emissions, Summit cam kit 442 lift springs and lifters, ADS super chip, Summit timing chain, modified MAFS, tranny cooler, polished rims, Good Year yellow letter nascar 235/55 tires, polished runners and plenum, 145 Speedo, remote start, keyless entry, alarm, yellow neons underneath.

Ovrclck350

No, but neither do some Hondas, Toyotas, etc. BTW, for those who think a Honda, Toyota, Etc...is cheap. I laugh in your general direction. That's the funniest thing I've heard all day. Try $50,000 for a 96 TT 300Z.

Red Demon

formal definition of rice
http://www.riceboypage.com/

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92 Rs Heritage Edition Camaro
305
3.27 posi Rear end
Flow masters
not to much else to make it more than stock until I put that 350 in shortly

IM: DarkHal 2000
Feel free to join my Webring listed on my web page (X-treme Fbody). I'm always looking for third gen's to add.
My site, http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/m/jmj211/index.htm

89rsRod

AHHHH!!! i think i am going blind by looking at all of this rice. mmmmm rice, im hungry. AnywAyz i think that this story about the ***** messin his car is halarious.
I hope this happens to every ***** out there who thinks they can top our camaroS
DIE RICE DIE!!!!

PhantomTPI

$50k isnt worth the TT 300Z....for that much money, you could get a C5 fully loaded WITH $5-8,000 left over for mods which will pi$$ on the TTZ, and then go to McDonalds for a milkshake. Take it from me, I own one. See sig.

Sorry, I am ANTI-Jap Car all the way...
Just my $.02

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1986 WS6-Equipped 5.0 TPI Trans Am
Random Tech High-Flow Cat
Two Chamber Flowmaster Muffler
Megs Custom 4.5" Stainless Steel Rolled Tips
1999 Grand Am GT In-Dash CD Player w/Equalizer(fits like '86 original)
5% Tint On Rear, 35% On Sides
http://www.pitt.edu/~zyhst/trans86/

OTHER RIDE:
1998 C5 6Spd. Corvette Coupe
Silver w/Gray Leather Int.
12/14 Options
Stock(for now)
Best 1/4th: 13.5 @ 104.4MPH

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Jza

Wow, we have some real adults here...

Why isn't this thread locked yet?

Ovrclck350

Yah, real smooth wishin someone mess up their car. Intelligent one you are. Oh, and apparently a 300Z and a Diablo 6.0 is rice. Hmm......again one of the foreign=import guys. You really make me sick.

MetalliCamaroRS

iTrader: (15)

Woah... that takes ***** to say on here. I'm not flaming you, but I think I'd rather drive a *cringe* mustang over a supra. But that doesn't matter since I'm never going to drive either. I'm stickin with Camaros.



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1992 Camaro RS
305ci automatic, all stock til I get some cash.
My 1992 RS

Ovrclck350

I wouldn't drive a Mustang.....unless it was in the 11's when i bought it.

Andy89RS

Place your bets now! Who will be the last person to post in this thread before it's locked?

86ZRICHIE

I enjoyed the formal deffinition of ricers on that site, and I'm puttin money on a moderator to have the last post

Ovrclck350

LOL. BTW guys. I didn't mean to start a war hear, and the fact remains that I do own a thirdgen. I doubt I would ever go out and buy any of the aforementioned cars, unless I had enough cash to wipe my @$$ with. It's a waste.

jobryan26

Most of these RICERS are owned by children that don't know how to drive a car. I would never depart my T/A but go to Japan or Germany and try to smoke one of their little imports. They send the sh$t cars over here while the real imports aren't legal here. Those cars are bada$$. Like the Nissan Skyline GT-R R35 which is going to be imported to the U.S. With a 3.5 liter V-8 Twin Turbo putting out 450hp. It's suppose to be available 2003. The stock GT-R does 0-60mph in 4.7sec. and a 1/4 in 13.7sec. and has only 280hp! Just imagine what the R35 would do. Time to go to work on our thirdgens because the Jap's are coming!




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'87 Trans Am:
(Engine)
305 TPI
180 Degree Thermostat
JET Fan Switch
TB Bypass
Accel 300+ 8.8 Racing Wires
Accel Super Coil
Bosch Platinium Plugs
Custom Ram Air with K&N
Removed Emissions Equipment & Cat.
(Stereo)
Full Kenwood Excelon System

89RagTopRS

Over 80 grand for a Skyline, no thanks, I'll buy a Viper or a Corvette and pocket the rest of the change while I blow its doors off.

I can make my Camaro run faster than a Skyline and save a lot of money (compared to buying new) doing it. I'd also have pride knowing that I did it myself.

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Member of the Jersey Fbody Crew(JFA)

1989 Camaro Convertible RS
dark silver w/black top
305tbi, auto, 2.73 posi
SLP exhaust, 16x8 black
Check out Phil's Rice Boy Page

PhantomTPI

80 Grand?? 450HP or not....its UGLY. Just another waste of good $$. Get a Vette or something that will perform as well, and even better yet, and use the $ that you have left over(alot-about$38,000) partly for mods, and the rest for all the chicks that come running to your NON-IMPORT VEHICLE, because it actually has style AND class. Then, go blow the paint off those overpriced turbo/supercharged/turbine-engined/nuclear-powered/Type-this and that sticker-wearing imports and show 'em how it's done. BTW, i woudn't trade my 15.9-second 86 TA for a new 80k 450hp Skyline hogwash car....ever.

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1986 WS6-Equipped 5.0 TPI Trans Am
Random Tech High-Flow Cat
Two Chamber Flowmaster Muffler
Megs Custom 4.5" Stainless Steel Rolled Tips
1999 Grand Am GT In-Dash CD Player w/Equalizer(fits like '86 original)
5% Tint On Rear, 35% On Sides
http://www.pitt.edu/~zyhst/trans86/

OTHER RIDE:
1998 C5 6Spd. Corvette Coupe
Silver w/Gray Leather Int.
12/14 Options
Stock(for now)
Best 1/4th: 13.5 @ 104.4MPH

jobryan26

I agree I wouldn't trade my T/A for a Skyline either but what I am saying is SOME of these cars would totally smoke our cars with the right mods and driven by someone who knows how to drive. Like the Skyline block (v-6) is capable of producing 1000hp according to Nissan. It's not so much that's these cars are slow peices of junk it's the idiot behind the wheel. Anyway what is American? Honda parts are shipped here and are built.My wife's Chrysler Sebring Lxi has a big Mitsubishi sticker right on the firewall. Sorry guys but I don't think much of anything is truely American Made. Comparing our cars to Honda's, Acura's, and etc. is no different than comparing it to a Cavalier Z24. Ours just Look better, Have a V-8, and handle better. And sure if I had $80,000 I'd buy a New C5 convertible

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'87 Trans Am:
(Engine)
305 TPI
180 Degree Thermostat
JET Fan Switch
TB Bypass
Accel 300+ 8.8 Racing Wires
Accel Super Coil
Bosch Platinium Plugs
Custom Ram Air with K&N
Removed Emissions Equipment & Cat.
(Stereo)
Full Kenwood Excelon System

Camaro_hunter_d

Ok I have read a few of these and I now have to respond to it. First off I am proamerican muscle.
Now to the one that thinks a viper will outrun that skyline...good luck. That skyline will eat it for breakfast. Why you ask..well heres some reasons.
1. weight to power ratio. The viper is overly powered with no real weight on the rear wheels. The problem, they spin.
2. engine size. Granted the viper has a bigger engine, but think how much faster a twin turbo 8 can spool up campared to the massive V10.
3. gearing. That skyline is geared and designed to race period. The viper has moderately low gears which help with the milage but they spin the tires.
4. ridabilty. I garantee that the skyline has a much smoother ride and is alot more driver friendly.
5. the ability to be discrete. wh the hell will race a viper unless they KNOW they can at least put up a fight. You look over and see a plane jane honda with a body kit and you don't think about it untill he is a mile in front of ya.
And not to mention that you can fine tune a import just as easy as an american nowadays.
please no flames on this one just read it for what its worth.
As I said I am pro american muscle but I also look at all the competition not just the americans. I have seen a local supra run mid nines consistantly at the track with no nitros and with a straight 6 block. Now you find an american car that can do that. And it is only a single turbo, and is a daily driver on pump gas. The only thing it has is a upgraded turbo, fuel system, exhaust, and pistons. other than that the engine is stock and runs upwards of 27 PSI.

yellowiroc

honestly, i think you should take your rice knowledge and tell someone who cares. you can go to www.iloverice.com


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86 IROC 305 TPI LB9 700R4 W/ Shift kit, K & N, Flowmaster gutted cat 95 Z tips, airfoil, 160 thermo, removed emissions, Summit cam kit 442 lift springs and lifters, ADS super chip, Summit timing chain, modified MAFS, tranny cooler, polished rims, Good Year yellow letter nascar 235/55 tires, polished runners and plenum, 145 Speedo, remote start, keyless entry, alarm, yellow neons underneath.

TZFBird

Sorry there YellowIroc, but have you seen the front cover of Motor Trend magazine I believe? It has a twin turbo Viper that puts out 850 horses. Now, if that is not psychotic, then I have no idea what is. I am thinking that that is possibly a little faster than that twin turbo what ever the hell it is. VIVA LA VIPER!!

TZFBird

Correction:
Camaro Hunter not Yellow Iroc. Sorry about that YellowIroc. I got the two names mixed up.

Dewey316

first off, a twin turbo viper...i bet that comes in WAY over 80K. the lingenfelter Viper is like 135K isn't it?... also i bet hardly any of you guys can compete with a slightly modified 300Ztt. it doest take much to get those to the 12 mark. and the skyline is WAY faster than a Z, and i bet it will be easy to modify just like the Z is.

plus what has not been mentioned is how well those nissans handle. the 4 wheel HICAS stearing is amazing.

if i had the money i would defenently buy a skyline. (minus that hidious looking wing).

Ovrclck350

Someone in here MIGHT care. You don't OWN this post, and just because you started it doesn't give you the authority to judge who can and can't post. This is an open forum for anyone who wants to reply.

Curse Z28

they do NOT run 13.30's stock.
The best ET i've ever seen advertized for a stock TT 300ZX was 13.94

Nissan 300ZX Performance/Handling Data Speed (mph) 0-30 0-40 0-50 0-60 0-70 0-80 0-90 0-100
Time (secs) 2.1 2.8 4.5 5.6 7.7 9.5 11.4 14.5
Top speed 164 mph
Quarter mile 14.3 @ 99.1 mph
Slalom 65.8 mph
Lateral acceleration .87 g




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yellowiroc

if we can say anything we want... then i guess i can say '***** off moderator', but i'm not because that has nothing to do with my post. i wrote my post to slam on ricers because this is a third-gen AMERICAN site. i find it irrelevant to discuss ***** times when all we should worry about is making our cars faster.

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86 IROC 305 TPI LB9 700R4 W/ Shift kit, K & N, Flowmaster gutted cat 95 Z tips, airfoil, 160 thermo, removed emissions, Summit cam kit 442 lift springs and lifters, ADS super chip, Summit timing chain, modified MAFS, tranny cooler, polished rims, Good Year yellow letter nascar 235/55 tires, polished runners and plenum, 145 Speedo, remote start, keyless entry, alarm, yellow neons underneath.

Red Demon

I'd trade my car for a brand new skyline, then sell it for 70 grand with like 5 miles on it and buy another 3rdgen and mod the **** outta it..



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92 Rs Heritage Edition Camaro
305
3.27 posi Rear end
Flow masters
not to much else to make it more than stock until I put that 350 in shortly

IM: DarkHal 2000
Feel free to join my Webring listed on my web page (X-treme Fbody). I'm always looking for third gen's to add.
My site, http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/m/jmj211/index.htm

Ovrclck350

This is also a thirdgen appearance forum, and what does this have to do with Appearance? NOTHING!!!. Non-tech is supposed to be taken to nethirdgen.org

Ovrclck350

Oh, then should it be posted in a "*****" site then. I never saw a question about appearance, all I saw was you slammin on someone for the car they drive.

yellowiroc

moderator... you think way too much and obviously you have way too much time on your hands.

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86 IROC 305 TPI LB9 700R4 W/ Shift kit, K & N, Flowmaster gutted cat 95 Z tips, airfoil, 160 thermo, removed emissions, Summit cam kit 442 lift springs and lifters, ADS super chip, Summit timing chain, modified MAFS, tranny cooler, polished rims, Good Year yellow letter nascar 235/55 tires, polished runners and plenum, 145 Speedo, remote start, keyless entry, alarm, yellow neons underneath.

Ovrclck350

And you have this reasoning because?????

PONTIMANIAC 90

Here's my 2 cents if anyone cares: Skyline is an obviously Rice-lookig car. For 80 Grand it definetly not worth it.If you gonna lay down serious money, looks have to figure into the equesion.I mean an expensive sports car has to be a p*ssy magnet as well as a performer.
As far as what "rice" is not:TT300zx,TTSupra,TTRX7, and a few others, are TRUE RWD MUSCLE CARS in the true spirit of the F-body. They were offered in the early 90s-up to compete w/the F-Bodys and unfortunately were canceled(for the most part) just as are the F-Bodies are being cancelled today.
Looks wise,I think the 300ZX is a beautyfull looking car w/***** to match.I had one years ego and am sorry I didnt keep it.Its not a "rice" car by any definition.
I love my 90 Formula but I will not have it forever.Variety is the spice of life, you know.

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1990 Formula
Factory:TPI-305/Dual Cat(230hp),5 Speed,3.42 rear, Dealer:Aluminum Drive Shaft
Mods:SLP air foil,K&N Filter, Accel:wires,coil cap,rotor.Hypertech Thermomaster chip,Stat,Fan switch,TES headers,MSD6AL,AFPR(46), Harwood fiberglass hood,original GM "Notchback GTA" hatch.
Flowmaster 3" Cat-back exhaust,TB coolant bypass, Centerforce dual friction clutch.

CrazyHawaiian

hahahahha!!! thats pretty funny ... you know alot of guys i know that race hondas and such really do think their suspension is superior to everything else out on the road. its funny to see someone learn a hard lesson. just goes to show that ... yeah maybe a dropped civic can outhandle a RS with stock suspension, but look what happens when you totally redo the suspension on the RS (just like that civic did) ... it will be a much better (fair) race. kind of reminds me when i raced a porsche 944 n/a in my 2.2ltr s10 (with a 4/5 drop). i actually went into the turn behind him and came out ahead ... not bragging or anything but to me it was impressive for a domestic truck to take a porsche (any model porsche) on a turn.

but hey, i'll tell you what ... there are some imports out there that can really handle. i've seen some really crazy stuff on a 2 lane mountain road we have here on the island called 'tantlus.' i specifically remember one time when i was sitting with my friends on the side of the road (lookout) and we see two civic hatchbacks tearing down the hill. they must have been taking these turns at about 50-60mph. sorry guys but i cant see a 3500 pound camaro doing the same ... also if you dont believe you should check out Initial D ... in japan it is a big thing being able to drift turns. they have professional drivers driving old 4age toyota corollas taking turns at 90 and 100. i dunno just blabbering ...

and sorry but I am a chevy guy at heart. the only imports I would ever drive are the nissan skyline, toyota supra, mazda rx7/8, or maybe the acura nsx ... but only if I got the car for free (im not gonna blow money on a damn import!! hehe) I can appreciate the style of those cars but i think 3rd gen's look better personally.

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--- Currently ---
Maroon 1989 Camaro RS
Crappy 305 TBI / Auto
Hypertech Stage 2 Chip (and 160/ThermoStat)
2.5" Pipes, No Cat, Flowmasters (Dual)
GT Grant Wheel

Planned: Shaved keyholes, antenna
Black w/ Grey Racing Stripes
17x9's in front and 18x9's in back

--- Next Project ---
1992 Camaro z28
K1 Interior Kit, Sparco Seats, Tweeded Interior
TurboCharged L98 w/ T56
Full Suspension, Brake Upgrades, 17x9/18x9
LOTS of bodymods and House of Kolor Chameleon Black/Green paintjob

Crusader

iTrader: (1)

LOL thats great dude! I'm with ya on all that.

And Camaro_hunter_d I believe there are quite a few TTA's and some Turbo Buick's running 9's on a single turbo, V6, with stock internals and just upgraded turbos and fuel stuff. I have video's of a Regal doing 9's!

Just wondering but does anyone know how much the Skyline wieghs?

Jess

PhantomTPI

Thanks Crusader LOL

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1986 WS6-Equipped 5.0 TPI Trans Am
Random Tech High-Flow Cat
Two Chamber Flowmaster Muffler
Megs Custom 4.5" Stainless Steel Rolled Tips
1999 Grand Am GT In-Dash CD Player w/Equalizer(fits like '86 original)
5% Tint On Rear, 35% On Sides
http://www.pitt.edu/~zyhst/trans86/

OTHER RIDE:
1998 C5 6Spd. Corvette Coupe
Silver w/Gray Leather Int.
12/14 Options
Stock(for now)
Best 1/4th: 13.5 @ 104.4MPH

[This message has been edited by PhantomTPI (edited April 25, 2001).]

KenGTA88

I believe a Skyline GTR weights about 3300 lbs or so. Anyway no one is saying you have to drive an import or even like them, the facts are some of them are pretty quick. No matter what you own it’s all about picking and choosing your battles. A Honda civic with exhaust and intake better not think he can beat 350 Camaro/Firebird, as I shouldn’t think a stock Camaro/Firebird could take a Diablo or Porsche 911 turbo. I’ve been at the track in Hawaii and I’ve seen some surprisingly fast imports. Will I ever own an import? Maybe, but a 4 banger will never replace the feel of the torque of a V8 at wide-open throttle, as a Camaro/Firebird will not have the nimbleness of a 300ZX around a road course. I wouldn’t mind owning a Skyline GTR, 300ZX TT or even an RX7 TT but they will never fill the shoes of my 4 cars 84 TA, 88 GTA, 95 Impala SS or 87 Monte Carlo SS. Take it for whatever its worth but all of are cars are built for different reasons, ¼ mile, better handling, Top Seeds, 0-60. We all just have to be rational and respect each other on the road because there is always another car better then our own in something.