QUIT CALLIN CAMAROS AND FIREBIRDS RICE!!! HOLY ****, every damn post i read starts out really informative, then turns into somebody not agreeing with it so they call it "rice" rice is a term for japaneese. it means honda, acura, dsm, hell you could call my moms dodge Ram D50 rice and i wouldnt care, know why? its a mitsubishi. (says on the tailgate "imported for" in the huge dodge logo) as far as i understand, there wasnt a single F-body born in japan. and ya know ricers? they get pissed when you call an american car rice too. because they try make thier car look like it came from japan. and the ones that come from japan actually kick *** . like the 98-00 impreza WRX, over 300hp. and still cost less than what a base model Z28 costs. they may not look as good, but they are fast.

Anyway, its getting really annoying when every post you read turns into a big rice fest where everyone is calling everyone rice because of what they have done to their car. your F-body is not rice until you drop a friggin integra type-r 4cyl in it. and hell it might move it pretty well if you did. it would just sound like sh.t. can we just quit the name calling? i thought this was a tech site. how is anyone gonna learn anything if all we do is insult eachothers taste? now im not saying dont state your opinion, but rather than "ohh thats sick, why the hell would you do that? thats so rice!" why dont you either dont post or say, "it might be cool of you did it this way" or "well i wouldnt do it but this is how you would do it..."

personally i think there should be a BS section like on www.ls1.com where people can get out thier agression about jap cars. if you dont like em i may wana hear about why. but not in a tech post where a guy wants to know where he can get clear tail lights or a f40 style wing etc...

well thanks for reading my rant.

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1979 L-82 Beefed up Corvette. Bright-orange with orange pearl.
end of summer: NOS!! im thinkin 250 shot. (already have a full race engine.)
god i love this car.

1985 WS6 Trans AM T-tops
bone stock sloth of an engine on its last leg(LG4 w/ 172,000mi)
T-5 tranny. thank god, i couldnt stand an LG4 auto.
Plans for an LT1,
dual exaust,
& a pounding stereo.

[This message has been edited by 85ws6TA (edited June 14, 2001).]

 

Well Said ... i agree totaly.

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Dewey 3:16
90 RS 305 TBI LO3
36mm/24mm swaybars, Spohn Panhard, SFC, LCA's, and RLB. "Wonder"bar, Edelbrock STB, and K&N.

 

i hate people that say im retarded for putting $4000 of stereo equipment in my camaro instead of a 350 or something...hehe

only thing i hate on camaros is HUGE wings and ***** exhaust, i hate all foreign cars with a passion...

i mean, half you prolly agree with the 350, but im 18, had $5000 to spend on a car, and instead of getting another Topaz, lol , i got me a pimpin Camaro instead
heh

thanks for reading my rant =P

 

Nice try but it just ain't gonna happen. Too many egos, too many people who think they have the epitome of taste - or rather are the epitome of taste. To me, the term rice means poser. You've got stickers proving how fast you are. You have huge spoilers to keep the @ss down at high speeds - on your front wheel drive car. You're posing as something you most definitely are not. Some of those ricers will flat out hand our cars their @ss and make us like it. Of course, I'm talking about cars like the 300ZX TT, the Turbo Supra, etc. {I can see it now, all the posts detailing how someone spanked a Z in their stock RS} Nobody would call those cars rice in a derogatory fashion - not if they had a brain.

Cars are all about personal expression and people need to remember that. True ricers are expressing to knowledgeable people that they are posers; and they know it. In this thirdgen forum if you don't like something, fine, but that doesn't make it rice. That is an intellectually lame response - admit that you don't like it and get over it. Also admit that it isn't your car and the owner can do whatever he likes with it. Then get over it. If someone is asking a technical question about something you dislike and you have nothing of value to offer, shut up. And get over it.

Most importantly, get over it.

Darth Steve

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Steve's Trans Am Temple

 

applause for scauffiel!!!!!!!!!!!

great words for the camaro cause

 

I agree with Scaufiel too. Rice is posers with useless hang-gliders bolted to the trunk and retarded ground effects that do nothing, and stickers and lame wheels. This goes for thirdgenners with that crap too. That's what most of us are bitching about.

Although I may not care for the appearance of most of the japanese cars out there, if there's one running 14s or better, I'll be impressed regardless of it's appearance. If it has that appearance and runs 17s, then I'm going to laugh all day long. BUT, you don't see too many 13 second Mitsus with those gawdy decals and ground effects kits unless they're sponsored by them.

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"I didn't know a bored out Ford could go so slow" -Shenandoah

 

I think if you like it go for it. I will never meet one of you guys on the road so as long as I like it I do it. You guys would have a feild day with mine. I have a nice big SLP window sticker and the rear Rockford Fosgate sticker. Sealed beam conversion(you know that is rice)cause they are way brighter. A big factory 91 wing oooooo that just screams rice to some people but hey I like it and as long as i like it I keep it.

By the way....what a lot of you call rice should really be called french. Some people look like they went on a huge shopping spree in the french section of Canadian Tire but hey they like it so what the hell. You got the cash all the power too ya!

 

Your car doesn't sound like rice at all. You have an SLP banner. Do you have SLP products on the car? Most ricers with their 50 decals don't use the products.

How about Rockford? Have Rockford in your car? The only reason that I don't like car-audio decals is because they are a rolling advertisement to thieves, but if you feel safe with them, who am I to argue?

I don't like the 91Z spoiler, but since it's a stock item, I'm sure not going to call it rice. Well, unless you're one of the types that puts it on your RS right in front of the original spoiler. That's just gay.

I'm not much for the headlight thing either, but hey. If it resulted in an actual improvement, then it has a purpose other than appearance.

Your car hardly sounds like rice to me, and I'm definately the type of rice-hater that this post is aimed at.

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"I didn't know a bored out Ford could go so slow" -Shenandoah

 

I agree, to each his own, but I just have to correct that info on the Impreza WRX is not even close to 300hp. Its 227 and thats with 14.2lbs of boost. Also the BASE msrp is 23,995, and I have never seen one that cheap.
I just test drove one and will probably buy it (for the wife). They are pretty quick, but still dont have the muscle car feel around town that my iroc does.

 

a Subaru Impreza WRX rice??? B-S it's made to be like a Rally Car. Subaru???? The company that purposely makes themselves look like Aussie Rednecks? i won't even bother this is too funny.

 

I admit that I think the WRX is fugly looking, but I'm not sure I'd call it rice. Any 4 banger that has over 200ft/lbs of torque has my attention. I do like the older version with the more rectangular headlights (as opposed to round like now) though.

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View the restoration of an 85 IROC</A>
"I didn't know a bored out Ford could go so slow" -Shenandoah

 

The WRX sold in Japan does have over 300 horses and allwheel drive. The just water all the car down before it comes to America. The American version is 227. I say do what you like just down go overboeard with anything. Moderation is the key to life.

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Eibach Sportline Springs,
Koni Struts and Shocks,
SSPE lower control arms and Panhard bar,
Hellwig Rear Swaybar and Energy Suspension bushings.Aluminum Driveshaft. Posi-rear

 

A Ricerocket is any jap import car.

A ***** is someone who takes their car, ANY type of car, and makes it LOOK fast, but it isn't. Stickers for performance parts they don't have, body kits, wings, huge tachs for auto's, stuff that looks like real performance parts ( http://www.takakaira.com/accessories...ightpager.html and http://www.lilviv.com/pictures/plastint.jpg )
is rice.


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Evil's 88 Camaro
Stock 305 TBI Auto, Flowmaster, Full 3" Exhaust, B&M Megashifter, K&N Open Element, MAC Lower Control Arms and Panhard bar

 

A rice rocket is a fast @$$ jap car!
A ***** is someone who makes their car look a lot faster than it actually is, Kinda like a stock 3rd gen camaro with a V6.... lol, cant wait for the responses!

 

it appears my post kinda steered in the wrong direction, my point was that rice means japaneese. i mean you cant really argue with that. i mean its RICE. and i didnt think there are many countries that grow rice other than japan/china. (aisa) but that point didnt really matter. the main point was to quit b!+chin at people because of what they have done or want to do to thier car. i would gladly bet that out of the 8000+ members there is some guy with a kandy red paint job with the hideous swirls and 13"x12" wide gold daytons on it but he is scared to post because people will laugh at him. and im not gonna lie i would think the car is nasty, but i wouldnt post that i thought its gross. now about the guy who wanted to raise the car 2-3" in back, personally i think its fine to make fun of that no im kiddin, i made fun of rednecks in that post but not that specific *******. and it was a quote from the simpsons, and this guy i know who is an as-shole so it was ok i guess what im sayin is


"Cant We All Just Get Along?

lol well at least this post will make people think twice (hopefully) before posting ignorant stuff about a car that isnt thiers.

[edit to agree with jim]
yea the new wrx is pus$ as$ 227hp, and the old one was the one that was a bad as$. i know a guy in australlia that said when the WRX came out it was out running all the cop cars in every way so the cops got WRXs. (the more rectangler lights that look better.) and the old ones were illegal in the US because the were too cheap for how fast they were. now the VR4, thats a badass, or the TT Supra, or TT 300ZX or Lingenfelter TT vettes, !!! but thats a diffrent type of car. and its just better. wow is better in every way. oops now im rambling. sorry. god damn i want one of those. i would sell my first 5 kids for one. ah damnit ill quit now.

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1979 L-82 Beefed up Corvette. Bright-orange with orange pearl.
end of summer: NOS!! im thinkin 250 shot. (already have a full race engine.)
god i love this car.

1985 WS6 Trans AM T-tops
bone stock sloth of an engine on its last leg(LG4 w/ 172,000mi)
T-5 tranny. thank god, i couldnt stand an LG4 auto.
Plans for an LT1,
dual exaust,
& a pounding stereo.

[This message has been edited by 85ws6TA (edited June 16, 2001).]

 

Now I am not condoning rice but I am for self expresion and to hell with what people think... But this one right here I am going to had to disect.

Huge tachs'... Hmm just about every camaro I see has one of these no matter if they have the stock V6, 305 or a mild 350. So Sorry to tell you that you have alot of 3rd gens and later camaros to bitch at.

I have seen many a 3rd as well that have MSD, Hooker, SLP, Flowmaster and others that do not have the equipment but sure enough have the 5 buck sticker pack...


Ok now for the ground effects...Well not even gonna go there...we all know that 3rd gen abuse anything they can get for ground effects.


And although they are 4th genners I have seen many with massive wings...and I have to laugh when I blow past them like there standing still...


And to all the import haters...there are more out there then you realize that if they came from japan with no restrictive mods they would blow us away with no problems. And the WRX can get upwards of 500 ponies with headers, upgraded turbo and fuel system... There are also a few 1st gen eclipes' out there with turbos that can run 10's all day long, and did I mention they are AWD and scream off the line?... Lets see the real performance imports... Acura NSX...Nissan twin t...Toyota Supra turbo, Single and twin...Subaru WRX...Eclipes turbos...Mitsu 3000 GT turbo...turboed hondas even can give us a real fight if there done right and thats just to name a few... And just about any of these can hand us our asses and could care less...And just remember that you can throw on nitro and so can they and still be faster...




[This message has been edited by Camaro_hunter_d (edited June 16, 2001).]

 

Lets just leave us V6ers out of it, I think most of us are young teens who can't afford the insurance on the 8's anyway. The most important thing is we drive Americanmuscle cars, but just not the fastest ones!



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Jeff
92 Camaro V6, mods: K&N, modified air box, JET chip 2,high performance muffler.
www.camarors.4t.com

 

The next time you have a problem figuring out if you are heading off to the "rice" side of appearance, just compare your car to this and you be the judge...



now friends, I think we can all at least come to the agreement of this being rice...


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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAH

 

When did Batman start driving a Honda?

 

its sad, but i thought of the batmobile when i saw that a while ago too
but in any case i would rather this post be something where we can list why our cars arent rice, no matter what you think it means, not about bashing ricers. i think theres a few sites dedicatd to that.

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1979 L-82 Beefed up Corvette. Bright-orange with orange pearl.
end of summer: NOS!! im thinkin 250 shot. (already have a full race engine.)
god i love this car.

1985 WS6 Trans AM T-tops
bone stock sloth of an engine on its last leg(LG4 w/ 172,000mi)
T-5 tranny. thank god, i couldnt stand an LG4 auto.
Plans for an LT1,
dual exaust,
& a pounding stereo.

 

Rice this rice that is just so childish.

 

someone always says that there are rice cars out there that can hand us our asses. But you know what the difference between those cars and our cars:

NATURAL ASPIRATION

NO RICE CAR IS FAST WITHOUT HELP FROM A POWER ADDER! I have about 420hp natural aspirated hp and I hate it when someone says their car is fast with a turbo. They should take off the turbo and see which is the "real" car. Any car can be insane with a power adder. that is what people have to realize that american cars are fast wihtout that crap.

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I WOULD RATHER PUSH A CAMARO THAN DRIVE AN IMPORT

1983Z28 350w/ edelbrock performer RPM power package , dynomax shorty headers, 700R-4 with shift kit, 750cfm carb, edelbrock 3" exhaust system, ASCD SS hood, 16" IROC rims.

future mods:
completely done over suspension, black paint with flames, Hurst shifter, dakota digital gauge package, procharger supercharger.

 

Why are you guys calling the F-40 wing rice? I have a 91 z and I love it. I like the look of the wing look how it blends with the car. It belongs on those cars. Look how the lines line up with the tail lights. Not only that but these (91-92) Z28's are the same as IROCS but with different ground effects. True the wing may slow us down abit but I like it. I also think the power blisters look cool. (Although I would like it if they were functional). But what I don't understand is why you guys hate us with a tiny difference in body style I mean it is practically the same car. Why hate your own Bro?

 

the f40 wing isnt the 91-92z wing. i think its 18" high, and dosent have the posts. but thats not the point of the post. and about a power adder, who cares if you have one? i was thinking about building the pos 305 out to be a 327 Twin turbo. that sounds wicked to me. im putting NOS on my vette. cuz ya know why? all in all the time slip is the same. if you have 420 NA HP or if you have 420 Charged HP. and seeing as how the cars that are doing high 4s have 7000-9000 horsepower and are charged, i respect it. just think, you car does 0-60 in maybe 5-6 sec? and these cars do 0-310+ in less than 5? oooooooohhh thats bada$$. and honda has a motor in the works right now that dosent have a cam. EVT or something, electronic valves. they say its under 2 liters, 4cyl, that is capable of over 1200 horsepower. thats just damn good engineering. thats what made me start to look at imports diffrently. and we learned abut the engine in my auto class, so its not some BS rumor we heard.

anyway i thought i throw out the 327TT idea see what you guys thought

and hey! the 89 TTA does 12s right? i dont care that its not NA. thats fast.

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1979 L-82 Beefed up Corvette. Bright-orange with orange pearl.
end of summer: NOS!! im thinkin 250 shot. (already have a full race engine.)
god i love this car.

1985 WS6 Trans AM T-tops
bone stock sloth of an engine on its last leg(LG4 w/ 175,000mi)
T-5 tranny. thank god, i couldnt stand an LG4 auto.
Plans for an LT1,
dual exaust,
& a pounding stereo.

 

I had to get my 2 cents in :

I'm not advocating rice, because it's not my thing. And personally, I can't see dumping mucho bucks into a body kit or stickers, etc. before the thing has *****. But, the body kit, the spoilers, the stickers, the racing seats in a car that runs a 20 second quarter, etc. are all about expression. Every rodder at some point in time has made a modification to a vehicle that resulted in absolutely no gains in anything but looks. Don't act like you haven't, or everyone would be cruising in a primered beast like me and my '85 T/A

Again: new cars in general, I don't care if it's a Cavalier, or a Honda, or my most loathed the Escort, are not my thing. But, they have their merits. Gas mileage primarily.

My main point is this: who's going to be the first to criticize the fuzzy dice or 8-ball shift **** in my 600 HP big block '76 Vette? Those two items weren't necessary, but in a weird way, I like 'em. It's my hoopty You don't have to ride in it, or look at it or anything like that, so just chill with the negativity. Some cars are just ugly, some just have ugly **** attached to them, and some (Escorts) should spontaneously combust. But, I understand that I don't need to like it or advocate it, some people will always have different, in my opinion bad, taste. I deal, you should too.

 

NUFF SAID
i'm with him on this one

 

It its all about natural asperation then why to people put Nitro, and super chargers on their cams?... I'm sorry but a 3.0 TOY MOTOR can get 700 HP and run 7-7.5 he has respect. And to make power you have to look at efficency, and well the smaller motors react better to turbos. The power numbers speak for themselves. The import scene has always looked at turbos cause big motors in their homeland are all but banned. You have to have respect for a 4/6 that can run 10's and below off of 3.0 liters and less. thats my opinion.

 

ImportEaters knows exactly what im talking anout. who cares if a car is ugly. its not yours.

and about imports being slow, i read an ad about a naturally asperated CRX doing low 10s. the motor? a bone stock prelude motor. no turbo nitrous or any power adder. and the car was totally streetable (except the the bumper cover that didnt have headlights. all they did to the car was lighten the crap out of it. which dont get me wrong, i think most CRXs are POSs. but then a hell of alot of Camaros and firebirds are POSs too. I personally hate the bandit (81??) trans am. mainly because i saw the show. the light up boost gauge was cool though. and it took a 79 camaro to do 11s before i liked it. but thats my opinion, i know there are alot of guys here who love the 2nd gen. hell i know a guy who would rather have his '73, which is really nice, than a 67-69. personally i think he got hit in the head too hard one day, but thats what i think. but i really dont care because as long as he has a f-body he is in the same family as me. and while my f-bod isnt anywhere near cool, or good looking, i still have pride in owning a f-body. and i can tell you right now, i am going to own many more. and hopefully ill have enough for more Y-bodies too.

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1979 L-82 Beefed up Corvette. Bright-orange with orange pearl.
end of summer: NOS!! im thinkin 250 shot. (already have a full race engine.)
god i love this car.

1985 WS6 Trans AM T-tops
bone stock sloth of an engine on its last leg(LG4 w/ 175,000mi)
T-5 tranny. thank god, i couldnt stand an LG4 auto.
Plans for an LT1,
dual exaust,
& a pounding stereo.

 

I have respect for anything that runs 10s, I just get irritated when 15 second ricers forget that if WE add turbos, we run 11s.

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View the restoration of an 85 IROC</A>
"I didn't know a bored out Ford could go so slow" -Shenandoah

 

well the sad thing is that there is no one really taking the turbos seriously in the 3rd gen world. They want cubes... I personally am looking into swaping in a turbo 4.3 like the cyclones/Typhoons had in them. With that I am looking at mid 10's I am hoping... With a little tweeking of course.

 

hell go for 9s, drop another turbo on it. i saw a story about a GN doing 9s and all they did was drop another turbo on it. it was ugly but cool. and jim, im sure thay unless i put a 20psi turbo on my car, i couldnt get into 11s without doing some internal work. i just have the 5-slow but then the whole altitude being 5233ft probably isnt helping me much either.

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1979 L-82 Beefed up Corvette. Bright-orange with orange pearl.
end of summer: NOS!! im thinkin 250 shot. (already have a full race engine.)
god i love this car.

1985 WS6 Trans AM T-tops
bone stock sloth of an engine on its last leg(LG4 w/ 175,000mi)
T-5 tranny. thank god, i couldnt stand an LG4 auto.
Plans for an LT1,
dual exaust,
& a pounding stereo.

 

2 Things:
1: Isn't rice short for rice-burner, A.K.A any Jap car? How can a car built in either the USA or Canada be Rice?

2: A car that has half the weight doesn't need the high torque a HEAVY Camaro does to get off the line. Of course a 4 cyl overhead cam with variable valve timing and 300HP is going to Beat some Camaros, but they will NEVER get the tourqe! If I put my 305 in a riceburner it would be the fastest car out there. Lets not compare apples to oranges people!

Peace!

 

alot of the imports aren't ALOT lighter.

i am not going to put any numbers down. but i saw a couple of weeks ago that alot of the imports that everyone talks about being LIGHT. are more tan 3000 lbs. a few were even wieghted more than 3rd gens.

 

Case in point the supra(with mods into the 7-8's)... weighs in at over 3k Lbs. The 300Z TT is not that far behind at barely over the 3k mark..

 

I doubt it, some third gen's are pretty heavy a Type R is probably a good 500 lbs lighter. And that little motor wouldn't have the torque to move the extra weight very well IMO.

On the NSX subject.. The NSX is over rated big time.. 80 grand to run 13's out of the box. 30-40 grand will get you 12's in a Vette stock. 20 g's or less for an LS1 puts you low 13's stock. Some minor mods and hello 12's. Just think what you could to to an LS1 if you had 50 grand to spend on the engine! (80k + for NSX 30k for new fully loaded F-body = 50k+ left over for engine mods since you passes up the NSX)

I would love to see an import run 12's, NA in a 3500+ car. Probably not gonna happen much. And how about add a price point to it too just for kicks...

Jess

 

the thing about the NSX is, it wasnt build for drag racing. it is called the best handleing (sp?) car on the planet. you spend 80K on the NSX then another 6K for a decent turbo, and hot damn. the thing would skin vipers no problem. and when it came the who was gonna slow down more for the turn in the road... you would whip anyones a$$. but then im kind of a NSX fan. and i really dont care what you think about me liking it. my favorite car in the world is a '69 ZL1 Corvette, and my favorite new car is a Corvette. (specifically one with either a ligenfelter 427 or lingenfelter twin turbo kit) i would rather have one of those then a viper with a hennesey venom 800 kit. ya know the 833 horsepower 0-60 in 2.7 car. actually might have been 2.3 ill have to read the motor trend article again. and ive been in ferraris and aoston martins and bmws and benzes and audis etc. and if i won $300,000...1st thing i would do would spend $55K on a new black vette, spend another 1-2K on GFX and a 98and up TA wing and then the other 30K to have lingenfelter soup it up. then the home. and then save the rest to pay insurance. wonder how much that would be. 18 year old male with new near-race corvette seeing as how my '79 is $400 a month if i put it under my name now...

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1979 L-82 Beefed up Corvette. Bright-orange with orange pearl.
end of summer: NOS!! im thinkin 250 shot. (already have a full race engine.)
god i love this car.

1985 WS6 Trans AM T-tops
bone stock sloth of an engine on its last leg(LG4 w/ 175,000mi)
T-5 tranny. thank god, i couldnt stand an LG4 auto.
Plans for an LT1,
dual exaust,
& a pounding stereo.

 

oh no...everyone's going to hate me
so what that I have a 305? it's faster than my 1.6 merc tracer was.

I like the way my car looks. some things could be better though. half the reason I bought my car was becasue I liked the looks of it. I wanted to drive around with a little DIGNITY. I run maybe 15's. So what? You know what I do about that? I don't go to the track.

Also, girls like a decently fast, attractive car. My camaro is a chick magnet. That's why t-tops are so nice (you can see yourself getting it on at night if you look up!)

So what if some people like a wing of a boeng 737 duct taped on their 85 accord? I personally enjoy a good laugh now and again, and we need a little humor in this world.

I actually know a few people who put weird sh*t on their car just for the hell of it...like a mercedes hood ornament on my pal's 1979 caprice classic wagon. We didn't think that his car was a mercedes. We thought it was funny.

I have actually seen some attractive hondas with 17 inch rims. Now, 20 inchers on a 92 biuck is a little overkill, but I bet that guy likes it. So leave him alone (he's one huge black guy!)

 

Let's not forget - I'm sorry, but I'd drive a total rice POS complete with gargantuan wing, every inch full of stickers, etc. etc. before I'd EVER drive a cavalier or escort.

MORE THAN ANYTHING, I HATE BLENDING IN.

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1985 Trans Am - rough and ready -- 3" cat and primary exhaust, lowered 2", custom rust body work mild fender denting. Daily driver.
1976 Corvette Stingray - not so rough, but always ready. 427 BBC .030 over (433 ci) 12.5:1 compression about 600-700 HP/World Class T5 tranny, and no, I can't gun it for fear of breaking my tranny - upgrading to a muncie/gear vendors O/D as soon as I get some more $$$

 

Here's my 2 cents. You people ******* Ricers are just plain racest! There's no other word for it. What the hell is wrong with an Import? Because it's built by a Japaness person? Our 98 Chrysler Sebring LXI has a BIG Mitsubishi sticker under the hood. So what's the point? Alot of Imports are built here in the USA and giving many of us JOBS! There is nothing other than prob. Harley Davison that's built here in the US. And I agree with the post up top. Then if it's about looking fast but it's not, then my 87 Trans Am is Rice! I say that because the idiots at GM stuck a 305TPI with maybe 190hp in a Trans Am that looks like a GTA! What the F**K do you call that? And yes I want to know what they were thinking. Everywhere I go someones trying to race me. Because my car is a Trans AM. But my wife's Sebring has almost as much H.P. as my T/A. Who cares what everyone else does to their cars. I'm not driving it so I don't care. Seeing those stickers on their cars to me isn't as stupid as seeing Chevy's with "**** on ford" and Ford's with "**** on Chevy". They are all gay in my opinion. Quit whinning about American made because there's hardly anything at all that's made in America. Ever heard of Metric? There's Metric bolts all over our cars and the Metric Table came from France in the 18th Century by Charles Maurice de Talleyrand. So now what, not so full of pride huh? I have my T/A because I LIKE IT! That's the only reason.

[This message has been edited by jobryan26 (edited June 26, 2001).]

 

i think racist is a bit strong of a term. i dont hate mexicans but i hate seeing a dodge ram with 1.5" of ground clearance with 13" gold daytons that are fitted with 12"wide 30 series tires. (with the big nike swoosh is the worst)

its all taste. i know alot of people that think rice rockets are nasty, but the dont hate asians. and i know alot of asians who hate american cars but are fine with the people that drive them. if you grow up hearing about how american is better, buy american, wont you believe it? they had the same treatment only the other way arround. and about who is better... it goes car by car. who does a better 4cyl? japaneese. who does a better 8-cyl? american. where as they both do damn good 6cyls.

each person drives diffrently. how you drive your car determines how long it will last. not where it was built. there are several NOS and Charger (turbo and super) systems that are tuned specifically to certain engines that wont increase wear on the engine at all. good engineering is the key to long lasting cars. my car has gone 175,000 miles with the last 10,000 not being very easy on it. my friends sisters honda has 160,000 and is ready to die. its all in how you drive it, and how soon you fix minor problems.

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about the rice rocket comment, im seriously considering buying a toyota supra non-turbo (they cost less) or a nissan 300ZX non-turbo (same reason.)

why do i want these cars? cuz i like em. easy enough isnt it? and ill probably do a body kit. why? cuz i like the way some of them look. i like the way they make the car stand out. i wont do the loads of stickers though. why? cuz i think theyre tacky.

know what else? i dont give a shyt if anyone calls me a *****. in my own head ill consider myself a *****. and its because i know its a japaneese car. unless its a supra which was probably built in tenn. i believe... but in any case, rice isnt a racist or "bad" term to me. its just a term. like tupperware was for fiberglass. i know alot of you guys mean rice in a bad way, and it dosent really bother me, so call me a ***** all you want because ill be happy. hell ill even call myself uncle ben the white *****. (my name happens to be ben too)

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1979 L-82 Beefed up Corvette. Bright-orange with orange pearl.
end of summer: NOS!! im thinkin 250 shot. (already have a full race engine.)
god i love this car.

1985 WS6 Trans AM T-tops
bone stock sloth of an engine on its last leg(LG4 w/ 175,000mi)
T-5 tranny. thank god, i couldnt stand an LG4 auto.
Plans for an LT1,
dual exaust,
& a pounding stereo.

[This message has been edited by 85ws6TA (edited June 27, 2001).]

 

Yes I guess racest was abit strong. I do think it's all ridiculous. I mean prob. 99% of these people have and RCA, Sony, Mitsubishi, GE, or Panasonic product in their house. So they can't be racest or bias to owning a "American made car".

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(Engine)305 TPI
180 Degree Thermostat
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Accel 300+ 8.8 Racing Wires
Accel Super Coil
Bosch Platinium Plugs
Custom Ram Air with K&N
Removed Emissions Equipment & Cat.
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