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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 03:55 PM
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ive seen this. you know he was real pissed when he found out there was other ways of making a good handling tri 5.
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 03:59 PM
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your always going to have people that dont understand the hotrodding nature we are a dying bread ...

id just ignore it and move on ...cruise the S*it out of that sweeeeeeeeet 56'IROC

once 2011 is closer this website will have a sticky with all the info as far as times and everything its always at the same place every year in crete

the preregister packets go on sale like a month or two in advance at thirdgenranch.com and its cheaper if you do preregister and saves alot of time when you first get to the show
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 92 Camaro
ive seen this. you know he was real pissed when he found out there was other ways of making a good handling tri 5.
I'm NOT PISSED......I researched all options......I did what I could afford! YOU'RE pissed because YOU aren't creative enough to have any vision that doesn't come out of a box!
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 04:25 PM
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DANGIT!!! I coulda used da floor on my Z28. Perfectly good rust free floor shot to H$LL. It does look kinda neat I must admit though. But I really coulda used dat floor.
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 04:37 PM
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DANGIT!!! I coulda used da floor on my Z28. Perfectly good rust free floor shot to H$LL. It does look kinda neat I must admit though. But I really coulda used dat floor.
@___@
Joee, We used the entire floorpan (lengthened 15" to match the 56's), suspension, EVERYTHING! I sold the doors, hood, hatch, fenders, seats....so the iroc lives on in two cars now.....The guy was excited to get those from me and his iroc is in a lot better shape than before.
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 04:41 PM
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I'm NOT PISSED......I researched all options......I did what I could afford! YOU'RE pissed because YOU aren't creative enough to have any vision that doesn't come out of a box!
I'm pissed that I don't have enough money to do something smarter than to cut up a great condition iroc.
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 04:54 PM
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I'm pissed that I don't have enough money to do something smarter than to cut up a great condition iroc.
This project was conceived over 10 years ago....mine is the third one....the others are at http://www.ronboatmanfabrications.com We started the project in the fall of 2005. The IROC had been sitting in my back yard longer than I had it on the road. I had recently replaced the 305 (cracked block) with a GM replacement motor that eventually got a beefier cam, 24 lb injectors, and a big throat TPI manifold from Edelbrock. I am sorry you feel as you do, but different strokes for different folks.
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 04:56 PM
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Re: 56 iroc

that makes it 5 years?
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 92 Camaro
that makes it 5 years?
THERE WERE TWO BEFORE MINE!!!!

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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 05:00 PM
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OH BECAUSE YOU SAID "THIS" PROJECT (no s)
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 05:02 PM
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DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE WORD CONCEIVED MEANS? The first one, the 53 Ford Courier has been on the road OVER 15 YEARS! The 66 CAMchero since 2002
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 07:24 AM
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Re: 56 iroc

Originally Posted by hozona
By seeing your picture, YOU ARE A GOOD JUDGE of UGLY .....it looks back at you in the mirror every morning!
What does this have to do with the thread? For your information, that is not me, it is a picture from a favorite movie of mine. I don't like Tri-Five cars, they are ugly in my eyes, and I stronly disagree with somebody chopping up a rust free, running, driving Iroc-z, especially a rare yellow one, to save such a boxy and outdated car. You insulting me personally is very low. I am intitled to my own opinion, I just disagree with what you did, and it seems that most people replying to this thread have the same opinion.
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ThreeOhFive
What does this have to do with the thread? For your information, that is not me, it is a picture from a favorite movie of mine. I don't like Tri-Five cars, they are ugly in my eyes, and I stronly disagree with somebody chopping up a rust free, running, driving Iroc-z, especially a rare yellow one, to save such a boxy and outdated car. You insulting me personally is very low. I am intitled to my own opinion, I just disagree with what you did, and it seems that most people replying to this thread have the same opinion.
First, the IROC was NOT RUST FREE being originally an Illinois car.
Second, I am soooo happy for you and Johnny Depp.
Third, If yellow cars are sooo rare how come no one bought it from me when it was for sale BEFORE I used it for the project?
Forth, you insulted me by calling my car ugly...55-57 Chevys bring a lot higher price BECAUSE THEY ARE CLASSICS whether YOU like them or not.
Fifth, most people replying to this thread do not have the same opinion.

I'M DONE !!!! Go play with your 305 car

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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 01:10 PM
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I dont post my opinions that often... But for F**k's sake... Dont get me wrong... I love Camaros, but honestly...Who cares! Its not like it was the last one in the entire world... Im all for what was done... They took a chance and tried something new... Thumbs up from me.... Most of the people that sit here and bash probably dont, nor will they ever have the skills to pull off something like that.... KUDOS on the build.
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by weaz4200
I dont post my opinions that often... But for F**k's sake... Dont get me wrong... I love Camaros, but honestly...Who cares! Its not like it was the last one in the entire world... Im all for what was done... They took a chance and tried something new... Thumbs up from me.... Most of the people that sit here and bash probably dont, nor will they ever have the skills to pull off something like that.... KUDOS on the build.
THANK YOU....
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 01:56 PM
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Re: 56 iroc

I must say nice job on that project...very well done! I love that '56...so what if you cut up an IROC to make the car of your dreams, it wasn't a collectors car in the first place so I don't know why all these people are complaining...I find it quite funny when someone does something totally different to a Camaro especially an IROC then you have the "hardcore stock IROC guys" freaking out hahahaha!

Anyways you did an awesome job man...hat's off to you!
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 02:09 PM
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Well regardless of whether everyone approves of his trashing an IROC, whether we like a tri5 shoebox or not, how it was slid over the IROC lower section and more or less spliced onto the rolling chassis.....

....it's a cool idea, its "hotrodding" at it's best. Look back through history and you'll find a LOT of rare cars sliced, diced, modded and otherwise altered to manufacture a piece of art in the name of hotrodding.

We need to tone the attitudes down on the guy.
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 02:54 PM
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The car is a prime example of what hotrodding is all about, it is a great example of american inginueity. Hats off to the builder. The Tri-Five is a classic, of the likes that no IROC will ever be. Way to update an old classic......
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 03:00 PM
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i could never do that to my 55 pontiac
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 03:12 PM
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i could never do that to my 55 pontiac
Sure you could....my 56 was far from original....if your 55 Pontiac is stock and restored or restorable....I wouldn't touch it. It will be worth a lot in the next few years just as it is.
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Sinister Z
I must say nice job on that project...very well done! I love that '56...so what if you cut up an IROC to make the car of your dreams, it wasn't a collectors car in the first place so I don't know why all these people are complaining...I find it quite funny when someone does something totally different to a Camaro especially an IROC then you have the "hardcore stock IROC guys" freaking out hahahaha!

Anyways you did an awesome job man...hat's off to you!
THANK YOU!!!
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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by chazman
What an a-hole.
BITE ME
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 12:10 PM
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Hozona, love the car and love how it embodies the essence of hot rodding ingenuity. Also, they were both your cars and you did what you wanted with them. It looks like a thorough build and the end-result is beautiful. Do you have any recent pics of the 56 Chevy?

There was an era where people were chopping up 60's muscle cars for parts and hot rods. Right now, thirdgens have bottomed out. They may go up in value, or they may not. Either way, Hozona tried to sell his rare yellow IROC and nobody wanted it (probably because yellow belongs on Lamborghinis and school buses... joking!). People aren't jumping on the opportunity to restore these cars, especially when there are plenty of decent quality cars out there with under 100k miles. I'd spend more time at a car show looking at a pristine thirdgen than a pristine tri-five Chevy, but I respect and appreciate this build. It's very cool.
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 12:44 PM
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I am all for restomods. But if you were going through that much trouble, why didn't you use a corvette frame, or something stiffer then a thirdgen? That is a beautiful car BTW!
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by KMK454
Hozona, love the car and love how it embodies the essence of hot rodding ingenuity. Also, they were both your cars and you did what you wanted with them. It looks like a thorough build and the end-result is beautiful. Do you have any recent pics of the 56 Chevy?

There was an era where people were chopping up 60's muscle cars for parts and hot rods. Right now, thirdgens have bottomed out. They may go up in value, or they may not. Either way, Hozona tried to sell his rare yellow IROC and nobody wanted it (probably because yellow belongs on Lamborghinis and school buses... joking!). People aren't jumping on the opportunity to restore these cars, especially when there are plenty of decent quality cars out there with under 100k miles. I'd spend more time at a car show looking at a pristine thirdgen than a pristine tri-five Chevy, but I respect and appreciate this build. It's very cool.
Thanks for the Kudos! You can see the entire build at: www.56iroc.com Geoff
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Old Jul 3, 2011 | 09:02 AM
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I like it. Theres way to many people "hot rodding" these cars in the wrong ways. They just slap some things together and wonder why it never works right. Its nice to see someone with the time and skills to do something completely crazy, but do it RIGHT. It looks great.
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Old Jul 3, 2011 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by travis401
I like it. Theres way to many people "hot rodding" these cars in the wrong ways. They just slap some things together and wonder why it never works right. Its nice to see someone with the time and skills to do something completely crazy, but do it RIGHT. It looks great.
Thanks alot! My friend Ron is the craftsman, I am just the lucky recipient of his labor. This car is very dependable and gets driven nearly every day! Love that Arizona weather....even the HOT Summers
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Old Jul 3, 2011 | 11:51 AM
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We all need freinds like that.
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 07:56 AM
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SWEEEEEEET~!~!~!~!
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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 07:47 AM
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I love how you say you didn't have money to go with an AM chassis, but how much did you spend in shop labor cutting up two cars and making them work together? Quality work but it had to cost a fortune to make everything mate up with all the time and custom metal work that had to be done. Personally I think 56's are the ugliest of the tri 5's. IROCs have a decent suspension but definitely not the best out there considering it was designed in the late 70's/early 80's and tweaked for the IROC model.
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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by GETGONE
I love how you say you didn't have money to go with an AM chassis, but how much did you spend in shop labor cutting up two cars and making them work together? Quality work but it had to cost a fortune to make everything mate up with all the time and custom metal work that had to be done. Personally I think 56's are the ugliest of the tri 5's. IROCs have a decent suspension but definitely not the best out there considering it was designed in the late 70's/early 80's and tweaked for the IROC model.
I don't care what anyone has to say about this, a project like this isn't about the $$$. It's about doing the job and doing it right, vision, talent, ingenuity, originality, fabrication skills, etc...
A price or reason cannot be put upon these. This project is an excellent example of American HotRodding....

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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 08:22 AM
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Just make sure that if you ever sell it, you disclose that they are buying anything but a genuine '56 as the title states.
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Originally Posted by J91
I don't care what anyone has to say about this, aproject like this isn't about the $$$. It's about doing the job and doing it right, vision, talent ingenuity, originality, fabrication skills, etc...
A price or reason cannot be put upon these. This project is an exceelent example of American HotRodding....

He stated it was about the money which is why he didn't use an AM chassis, due to cost. It's good execution of a bad idea.
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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by GETGONE
He stated it was about the money which is why he didn't use an AM chassis, due to cost. It's good execution of a bad idea.
In YOUR eyes it was a bad idea. And it's not a "good execution" it is a well done "professional execution" of a good idea. Ron Boatman, the fabricator/designer, was a member of the GM Concept Studio and possesses the knowledge AND the skills to complete this project. I suggest you visit his website at ronboatmanfabrications.com to see what other ideas he has had using iroc parts. Unless you have reached his level of expertise, you have no business criticizing how or what we used to accomplish this feat.
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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 12:01 PM
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You act like he's the only person to ever think of using a Camaro unibody to build another car on. There's several companies using 4th gen Camaros (same floor pan) to build various vehicles. I've seen a late 60's ElCamino and several 1st gen Camaros grafted on. There's plenty of aftermarket support to build a good handling chassis from the stock frame. I don't see the point of hacking up a good car to end up with a mediocre handling old car.

I've looked at his web page and all I see are 2 other builds using 3rd gens and the Ranchero is yours as well?. As far as I can tell that's all he's done. He has good metal skills, but so do lots of people out there and I know 2 personally. If you like it then that's all that should matter.
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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 12:36 PM
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Re: 56 iroc

Originally Posted by GETGONE
You act like he's the only person to ever think of using a Camaro unibody to build another car on. There's several companies using 4th gen Camaros (same floor pan) to build various vehicles. I've seen a late 60's ElCamino and several 1st gen Camaros grafted on. There's plenty of aftermarket support to build a good handling chassis from the stock frame. I don't see the point of hacking up a good car to end up with a mediocre handling old car.

I've looked at his web page and all I see are 2 other builds using 3rd gens and the Ranchero is yours as well?. As far as I can tell that's all he's done. He has good metal skills, but so do lots of people out there and I know 2 personally. If you like it then that's all that should matter.
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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 01:33 PM
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Incredible work... As someone else pointed out, there is comical value in the reaction of those here who drive IROCs which are beat to hell, and are continually beat on by said owners.

I see people parting these cars all over this site, giving up on projects and starting over, as well as ruining perfectly good cars without taking any steps in a creative or fun direction.

Heck, I get yelled at, criticized and called names for for dropping 10k in suspension and drivetrain work on Sport Coupe, just because it is a sport coupe! But it is a car I am proud of, and very unique to me.

The third gen crowd is diverse, and there are bound to be quite a few bad apples.

I think I can safely say (and I bet your experience is the same) at any car show you go to, your work is inspiring and well received... Doesn't matter what keyboard warriors and IROC purists say.
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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 01:52 PM
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Re: 56 iroc

Originally Posted by 68Strat
Incredible work... As someone else pointed out, there is comical value in the reaction of those here who drive IROCs which are beat to hell, and are continually beat on by said owners.

I see people parting these cars all over this site, giving up on projects and starting over, as well as ruining perfectly good cars without taking any steps in a creative or fun direction.

Heck, I get yelled at, criticized and called names for for dropping 10k in suspension and drivetrain work on Sport Coupe, just because it is a sport coupe! But it is a car I am proud of, and very unique to me.

The third gen crowd is diverse, and there are bound to be quite a few bad apples.

I think I can safely say (and I bet your experience is the same) at any car show you go to, your work is inspiring and well received... Doesn't matter what keyboard warriors and IROC purists say.
To tell you the truth, unless the person looking at my car KNOWS tri-fives AND 3rd Gen Vehicles, all the "hidden" mods go basically unoticed UNTIL they see the firewall. The only way we could have gotten away with this mod was BECAUSE the car was on a Camaro Chassis. (The engine sits about 5" forward of the stock tri-five) I got the same reaction from FORD purists when they saw the 66 Ranchero with a Camaro Chassis from the bed forward, sb Chevy TPI motor with 700R4 and Camaro rearend. What I ended up with was all the driving characteristics of the Camaro with the classic looks of the 56 Belair.
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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 01:55 PM
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Re: 56 iroc

I agree, I don't care that they cut up and used a iroc. I just wish it wasn't a yellow car. They didn't make many and I've always wanted one
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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 02:32 PM
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Car: 85 z28,01 sonoma,05 envoy
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Re: 56 iroc

Very nice job, kinda sucks it was an iroc and yellow, there are many other cars that could have been a good donor, but still a very nice custom car.
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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 09:34 PM
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Transmission: struggling t-5/ 4l60E
Axle/Gears: 3.08/ 3.23
Re: 56 iroc

Yea, the tragedy of using a 'cookie cutter' car to save a 55 year old piece of true, one year design, American steel to let it proudly live on with new life.
The shame.
/sarcasm off
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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 09:55 PM
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Car: 91 Z28,64ImpalaSS4094spd,67 Galaxy
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Transmission: Built 700R4, 3200 stall
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Re: 56 iroc

Originally Posted by deadbird
Yea, the tragedy of using a 'cookie cutter' car to save a 55 year old piece of true, one year design, American steel to let it proudly live on with new life.
The shame.
/sarcasm off
Well said.....
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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 10:18 PM
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Engine: 305 c.i. TBI/ 305 c.i. 4bbl
Transmission: 700r4/T5
Axle/Gears: 3.73 posi/ 3.73 posi
Re: 56 iroc

Nice work. Wish I had the time, talent and resources to do fab work like that.
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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 10:38 PM
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Re: 56 iroc

Wow looks like my old Iroc, wonder if its a 86 and where it from?
I do like the end results! But don't like that it could be my old car!
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 12:39 AM
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Car: 1956 Belair 2dr Sedan
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt limited slip 3:24
Re: 56 iroc

I bought the car in Mesa, AZ but found receipts from Illinois which explains the rust I found in the rear Qtr panels. The engine had been replaced and upgraded from a 305 to a 350 and there were new rotors and calipers on all 4 corners. It was a fun ride and made an excellent platform for the tri-five upgrade.
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 12:53 AM
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Well Mesa is not to far from me. I sold the car in 98 to a young kid. It was in mint condition then. Mine had the TPI in it. Well you did a awesome job! Sweet
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